Should Freddy be buffed or reworked?

Reworked. His current design is stupid, and his lullaby is still broken to this day. Invisible killer? ######### genius. You can't reliably stealth against him, and one meta perk can screw him over a lot with RNG, which is another problem: RNG can also completely lock survivors out of dealing with him. I've spent over a minute on a generator trying to get a skill check before, and other times had one instantly. There's no consistency anywhere in his power in that regard. So, he definitely needs a rework.

Eninya said:

Reworked. His current design is stupid, and his lullaby is still broken to this day. Invisible killer? [BAD WORD] genius. You can't reliably stealth against him, and one meta perk can screw him over a lot with RNG, which is another problem: RNG can also completely lock survivors out of dealing with him. I've spent over a minute on a generator trying to get a skill check before, and other times had one instantly. There's no consistency anywhere in his power in that regard. So, he definitely needs a rework.

@Th3Nightmare said:

@TryHardkiller1216 said:
So I read a guide about Freddy and it showed the best addon combos and best perks. Now I believe he is a good killer with the right addons, but at his core he is weak. So should the devs buff his overall power with no changes to the addons, or give him a rework or buff his power and nerf his addons. What do you guys think? Also I want to hear it from experienced players who are at least rank 10 and lower so I don't have to hear Freddy is op lol. Thanks.

This game should be balanced around rank 1, if I were a developer I would forget the ranks 20, because they do not know much about the game and based on losing games and playing constantly you can become quite good, but if the game is balanced for 20 .... ranges 1 discriminate killers with many hours, so is the game.

So that said ... Freddy needs to be reworded and improved.

Reworked, hands down.
Honestly I think his kit is mostly bs, balanced only by the fact that it is kinda weak.
He's the only killer with which I think stealth isn't really an option: he's invisible, with just his annoying non directional lullaby, can walk around mindlessy with his power charged and if he by any chance meets a survivor, it doesn't matter how well he is hidden and if the killer actually saw him because the power will just activate, breaking his stealth.
Then, infinite range aura reading limited only by his terror radius that can be reduced by insane amounts with addons, countered only by an RNG mechanic (which sucks for the survivor as much as for the killer).
I'm generally a very stealthy player, but with him it's much more effective to just run as soon as you hear the lullaby, and since juking him is mostly useless thanks to the aura reading, looping is the most effective counter to him. He offers no variety at all.

he may be weak, but he is hands down the most unfun killer to play against. it is boring and frustrating and most freddys play the same. hook- wait- tunnel- repeat.

@LRGamer said:
Increase Dream Transition Time
Make him be able to walk through walls and obstacles but he can still be Stunned
that would bring him to the Top 
maybe remove the Selfcare wake up Skillchecks

We are talking about a buff, not nerfing him further...

It’s very simple. No wake up from SC fails. Reduced dream transition, weaken related addons accordingly. No actions during dream transition but pallets, windows and hook saves. That’s all he really needs. For his addons though, remove the penalty on red paint brush, it’s not good enough to warrant slower move speed. For his black box, it should make it so there’s always one person in the dream state in addition to one starting there. So if that first guy wakes up, it will then make the next closest survivor on the map start to fall asleep and so on, so you always have at least 1 asleep.

What he really needs:

• being able to interact with survivors while they are in transition. Meaning, he can grab them off a gen, totem, hook rescue, heal, or gate.
• lullaby should be affected by terror radius affecting perks/add-ons.
• waking yourself up should only occur if a survivor hits a perfect skill check. This would make a ton of perks useful for him, which are otherwhise utterly useless.
• dreamworld should be lighter.
• transition shorter
• reverse the wait time nerf between transitioning several survivors.
• survivors shouldn´t know if they are transitioning untill they are fully asleep.

Freddy should fully get reworked.
The current form he has is just what everyone hates, aka looping, sandbagging, non-stealth and frustrating tunneling.

@LRGamer said:
Tsulan said:

@LRGamer said:

Tsulan said:

@LRGamer said:

Increase Dream Transition Time

Make him be able to walk through walls and obstacles but he can still be Stunned

that would bring him to the Top 

maybe remove the Selfcare wake up Skillchecks



We are talking about a buff, not nerfing him further...



Being able to walk through Walls and Obstacles even in a Chase

Yeah sure a “Nerf”

he would be better than Nurse

Increase dream transition? I can´t wait to stand next to a survivor who finishes calmly the gen, totem, heals, unhooks, opens the gate, escapes, jumpes through the hatch while i just watch.

Great idea! How about we make his dreamworld even darker, so he sure as hell will miss every survivor?!

BEING ABLE TO IGNORE LOOPS BY HAVNG THE ABILTY TO WALK THROUGH OBSTACLES AND WALLS
SURVIVORS IN THE TRANSITION AND  DREAMWORLD HAVE A INCREASE OF 75% ON ALL ACTIONS
SURVIVORS IN THE TRANSITION WILL BE UNABLE TO DO ANY ACTION OTHER THAN RUN OR VAULT OR DROP A PALLET
REMOVE THE ABILITY TO WAKE UP BY MISSING A SELFCARE SKILL-CHECK
AND TURN UP THE LIGHT IN THE DREAM WORLD 
YOU CAN’T SEE SH*T IN THERE
That should be it right
Anythkng else, Mr Tsulan?

Still don´t like the idea of walking through obstacles. You want to turn him into something OP.

Tsulan said:

@LRGamer said:
Tsulan said:

@LRGamer said:

Tsulan said:

@LRGamer said:

Increase Dream Transition Time

Make him be able to walk through walls and obstacles but he can still be Stunned

that would bring him to the Top 

maybe remove the Selfcare wake up Skillchecks



We are talking about a buff, not nerfing him further...



Being able to walk through Walls and Obstacles even in a Chase

Yeah sure a “Nerf”

he would be better than Nurse

Increase dream transition? I can´t wait to stand next to a survivor who finishes calmly the gen, totem, heals, unhooks, opens the gate, escapes, jumpes through the hatch while i just watch.

Great idea! How about we make his dreamworld even darker, so he sure as hell will miss every survivor?!

BEING ABLE TO IGNORE LOOPS BY HAVNG THE ABILTY TO WALK THROUGH OBSTACLES AND WALLS
SURVIVORS IN THE TRANSITION AND  DREAMWORLD HAVE A INCREASE OF 75% ON ALL ACTIONS
SURVIVORS IN THE TRANSITION WILL BE UNABLE TO DO ANY ACTION OTHER THAN RUN OR VAULT OR DROP A PALLET
REMOVE THE ABILITY TO WAKE UP BY MISSING A SELFCARE SKILL-CHECK
AND TURN UP THE LIGHT IN THE DREAM WORLD 
YOU CAN’T SEE SH*T IN THERE
That should be it right
Anythkng else, Mr Tsulan?

Still don´t like the idea of walking through obstacles. You want to turn him into something OP.

LRGamer said:

Tsulan said:

@LRGamer said:
Tsulan said:

@LRGamer said:

Increase Dream Transition Time

Make him be able to walk through walls and obstacles but he can still be Stunned

that would bring him to the Top 

maybe remove the Selfcare wake up Skillchecks

We are talking about a buff, not nerfing him further...

Being able to walk through Walls and Obstacles even in a Chase
Yeah sure a “Nerf”
he would be better than Nurse

Increase dream transition? I can´t wait to stand next to a survivor who finishes calmly the gen, totem, heals, unhooks, opens the gate, escapes, jumpes through the hatch while i just watch.
Great idea! How about we make his dreamworld even darker, so he sure as hell will miss every survivor?!

BEING ABLE TO IGNORE LOOPS BY HAVNG THE ABILTY TO WALK THROUGH OBSTACLES AND WALLS
SURVIVORS IN THE TRANSITION AND  DREAMWORLD HAVE A INCREASE OF 75% ON ALL ACTIONS
SURVIVORS IN THE TRANSITION WILL BE UNABLE TO DO ANY ACTION OTHER THAN RUN OR VAULT OR DROP A PALLET
REMOVE THE ABILITY TO WAKE UP BY MISSING A SELFCARE SKILLCHECK
That should be it right
Anythkng else? 
Mr Tsulan

@Runiver said:

@Tsulan said:

@Runiver said:
Freddy should fully get reworked.
The current form he has is just what everyone hates, aka looping, sandbagging, non-stealth and frustrating tunneling.

Freddy can be fun, if he´s played the way the devs envisioned him. Sadly they didn´t stick to that plan.
If waking up wouldn´t be so easy, he would make a really good hit and run killer. Devs should balance this.
When i play him, i tag everyone i see, chase them, hit them, then go for someone else nearby. That confuses survivors, since they are used to being tunneled by him. Once they start healing, i go back and finish them.

LF can also be fun, the fact that half of them are just insidious camping/face camping with revved chainsaw, however...

... is just a result of survivors complaining over BBQ instead of Insidious.

Runiver said:

@Tsulan said:

@Runiver said:

@Tsulan said:

@Runiver said:
Freddy should fully get reworked.
The current form he has is just what everyone hates, aka looping, sandbagging, non-stealth and frustrating tunneling.

Freddy can be fun, if he´s played the way the devs envisioned him. Sadly they didn´t stick to that plan.
If waking up wouldn´t be so easy, he would make a really good hit and run killer. Devs should balance this.
When i play him, i tag everyone i see, chase them, hit them, then go for someone else nearby. That confuses survivors, since they are used to being tunneled by him. Once they start healing, i go back and finish them.

LF can also be fun, the fact that half of them are just insidious camping/face camping with revved chainsaw, however...

... is just a result of survivors complaining over BBQ instead of Insidious.

Shh, don't contredict survivor mains, killers aren't supposed to have strong perks. Even if it means no camping and a more back and forward game.