So i just found out that BHVR are looking at changing medkits.

Then get your popcorn ready because there's a pretty good chance that's what's happening.

I already got my salty pudding ready. Though I do hope it's good changes. For both sides.

Agreed.

Im hoping its an insta heal rework tbh

Man i have 40 instaheals coz i dont know how to use it on ps4 :(

I'm okay with insta heals being changed. HOWEVER - if they touch instas without even looking at eboni moris first I'll be pissed.

My guess is they'll make it a heal over time. Say 5-10 seconds after use you get the heal instead of instant. While also maybe not consuming the entire medkit as well.

Keeps the majority of its power but removes most of its ability for abuse in the face of a Killer. Most often an instant heal is used right in front of the Killer. Heal after a pallet drop, pick someone up right after they got downed, heal right after getting hit, I almost never see instant heals used for anything but directly in front of the Killer's face while he can't do anything about it.

Hopefully its to instaheals

Eboni Moris are a very different mechanic than insta-heals, though they don't look it at first.

Moris majorly change the dynamic of your SECOND lost chase, and the ideal is that losing 2 chases probably results in your death anyway with the 3rd potential chase being a 'bonus.' Its a really intense power swing to not have to wait out the extra hook stage or win a 3rd chase, but the killer still has to dump a lot of time into eliminating you as a player, the reward is less intense for the killer than you may think and your not really losing as much as you think.

Insta-medkits mess with the dynamic of chases in a super intense and invasive way that bleeds into all chase dynamics by giving you a full instant-recovery and extra move boost. While it seems like its just an inverse, its not, because it is extending the MINIMUM time for a chase to end by 33%, and due to how things like loops work and bodyblocking and trade-outs in chases and just the capacity to loses the killer works, it can be much longer.

Basically? In general an assumed rule of DBD is that if you get hit, you are one more mistake away from dying. And if you go down, your ability to participate is entirely out of your hands at that point, and instead is going to be based on what is going on with the killer and other survivors: your basically not guarenteed to get to keep playing and have no ability to influence if you will, because your influence was in the earlier chase. Moris don't transgress on this basic dynamic, while insta-heals very much do. This is also why stuff like self-care with high end medkits was nerfed, when its possible for survivors to legitimately heal mid-chase despite the killer being aware of them and still pressuring them, the game kinda... doesn't work?

Like the game works with the survivors losing 1 extra chance on a down because going down is how you die anyway. The game does not work when you allow survivors to ignore the consequence of getting hit mid chase, because that is like... literally the only threat killers have. The only real interaction killers have with survivors is the ability to attack them.

Start using the medkit and then hit your skill check button. I think it’s L1.

The problem with this logic is that you claim it's a second lost chase, but if you look at it realistically(with how most people with a mori play), it's 3 hits compared to 6. Whereas with an insta heal, it's 7 hits instead of 6(to kill them, unless it's used on a downed survivor, which requires a pretty big amount of teamwork, and the killer to not pick you up immediately, and then it's 8 hits instead of 6. Only then is an insta heal somewhat more powerful than a mori. Of course, that's unless the killer decides NOT to crabwalk while looking at the hook waiting for you to be unhooked going from point A to point B, but I think everyone knows that's not how people play.

Let me also mention I'm comparing an Ivory mori to an instaheal, not an Ebony, because the only way to compare the two would be to use 4 instaheals vs an Ebony. Otherwise Ebony will win out every time. There is nothing more powerful than an Ebony Mori, because not only is it a UR offering that shaves off 12 hits, it's most powerful aspect is that it is an OFFERING, and not an ADDON. This allows it to be used with UR addons as well. There is no survivor addon or item that can allow them to stack URs, and even UR and VRs cannot be stacked, as a Styptic and a Syringe cannot be combined, meaning they cannot make nearly as powerful combinations due to the fact that they have no UR offering.

I appreciate the way you play, but it's not something that is commonly done. Facing an ebony mori 99 times out of 100 the killer will place you in a dead zone in an easy to see area, and focus on the second you are unhooked. Even people using Ivory moris do this.

It sounds like a big deal, but I think in the grand scheme of things it's not as powerful as it seems at first glance. Also, I think I'm still missing what the connection is you're making between gen rushing and add-on rarities. Are you suggesting that these other items are of comparative power level to BNPs and shouldn't be as common as they are, or that BNPs are way more powerful than any of those add-ons?

That said, we're not really talking about medkits anymore so I feel like we should stop derailing this thread, ongoing misunderstandings or no.

L2 if I remember right.

Every game at least during weekend has 1-3 insta heals so it doesnt change anything tbh.

I dont like to use "unfun" addons when playing killer, but its safe to assume these days that medkit = insta so lets fight toxicity with toxicity.