gen rush mindset

It’s not always the players fault, though. Some killers like clown don’t have good map pressure.

Don’t straw man what I’m saying. There’s plenty of ways this problem could be gone about but you can’t punish survivors for doing their objective, you can’t. You CAN however buff killer map pressure. Extending gen times would make survivor feel like more of a chore than it could be, especially with the aggressive play style being pushed for.

I think gen rush is a symptom of a more major survivor side issue, the lack of alternative objectives. If we had something else to do other than generators we wouldn’t have this issue.

I don't think most people (outside of swf) are trying to get the gens done as quickly as possible. I rarely bring an item. When I do it's because I want to be able to push out at least one gen quickly. You don't know what your team is going to be like. Also a toolbox makes sense. At the start of the game is when you can put the most pressure on gens. If you can get 2 or 3 gens done quickly you have a good chance to escape.

Gen rushing maximizes my odds of escaping. Thus I ought do it.

People don't really think " I have to do gens as fast as possible" unless its swf. I just do gens normally, if the killer doesn't find me during this period or doesn't hook anyone then they get done fast because I don't have anything else to do.

I did not read any of the body of the original post, because it is pretty unreadable to me. So just going from the title - gen rush mindset.

This game promotes it. Killers want to kill fast, survivors need to do gens faster or they probably all die. It's always been a race and with each new gimmick (like mend or exposed perks/powers) and nerf (like to healing speed), the pressure increases every update to do it faster.

Gets even worse if playing solo. I don't often know who I'm playing with - are they good in a chase, will they let me die on first hook, can they even power through Ruin? I better do gens now, because it will be too late later.

I think these comments pretty much sums up where the current state of the game is.

Escaping is the ultimate goal as a survivor. The only way to directly achieve this is to complete the gens. Yes, doing bones and looping hard serve to aid escaping, because it allows you and/or team mates time to do gens then open a gate.

That being said, we all know the longer a match goes on, the more chances the killer has to make sacrifices. So inherently, the survivors are always in a rush to complete the gens, it's the design of the game. Only when peeps get bored of the game do they mess around in hopes to spice things up a bit.

We also all know that certian killers that don't get massive speed buffs from there ability or have access to teleports essentially have to let certian gens fall because it takes the same amount of time to complete gens as it does to make a full lap and partial them all once. Heaven forbid you get in a chase in that time as well.

Using the term ‘gen rush’ as if it’s not the primary objective for survivors makes me think you’re not very experienced and/or don’t really understand the game.

False.

The game is imbalanced and those are the people that take advantage of it.

The imbalance itself exists with or without the people utilizing it.

True True.

because tinkerer and overcharge are great perks

Are you sure? Yesterday I played a game against a streamer. In the lobby he said "oh this is definitely a 4-man."

I was solo, and another guy was solo too (the other two were very unkind - not in a joking way - because he made a big mistake at the end). At most it was a 2-man group, yet the streamer was convinced it was a 4-man group. In my experience this false assumption is more common than 4-man groups (especially super sweaty ones) by far.

Agree it is really annoying to see this as Killer main, when I do my dailys and dont play a op Killer, Trapper for an example, the second survivors see my trapps or me and know I am a trapper, they instalty start rushing even harder.

Yesterday I placed 3 traps in autohaven for like 1 and a half minute and 4 gens popped. In the endscreen (still killed 3 because they wasnt that good honestly) all 4 of them had atleast a yellow toolbox or higher.

Thats why I main spirit and mostly play her or nurse because I just want to play chilled and not sweat for my life in every game. And then after genrushing a low tier Killer the survivors write mostly ez or baby killer but if you play a op killer they just dc or killthemselves. I hate redranks.

And a even more sad part is, most of the survivors that does that cant even mindgame properly. If you come to a balanced loop with midgames they mostly die instantly by just running towards you when you simply fake your redlight. This happens ALOT by these "rushers". It is fine if you want to make pressure by pulling out some gens but not focusing EVERYTHING into it, ppl dont heal anymore just to keep doing gens, if you find them on the gen they mostly die really fast and after the save they keep doing those gens, because even if they die, atleast they did the max amount of time the gens and not trying to stay alive, yeah weird right? Staying ALIVE as survivor, I wonder which weird madman came on the idea to make a game where survivors should try to stay alive!

The one and only game mechanic that is reversed for some reason is the time management within the game.

For some strange reason the survivors are the once dictating the progress of the game and the killer has to disturb and slow them.

In theory the survivors could spend ages on gens, if they want to, there is no overarching threat that forces them to do gens.

That's why killers that are able to quickly end chases and put pressure on the survivors, force them to use up their resources or entirely denying them, the best killers in the game and often unfun to vs them.

So the survivors don't have any other option then to rush gens themselves. That's their weapon to pressure the killer and force the killer into mistakes to be exploited.

So why do we blame the survivors? They just play optimally and react to the pressure of the killer with their own.

If we want a paced game, we need a clock/timer, if the survivors survive for X min they win, if they all get killed/sacrificed/died before, the killer wins.

Is that the alternative we really want?

Idk I try to do gens when people are still alive as fast as I can Bc the more the teammates get killed off the less likely the gens are to get done. I’ll take a break around 2-1 gens left to do bones for obvious reasons. If other players are as optimal as I am, I can’t help that. It’s not in my best interest as a survivor to piss time away. If 3 gens pop quickly and everyone is still up the killer usually camps or tunnels after that so I mean. You don’t have a lot of options other than offering yourself up for the killers sake with them being extra close to the hook at that point. I’m going to a gen, if you don’t come looking for me that’s your fault. The best killers are the ones that apply gen pressure , and even if they haven’t killed everyone they dragged the out long enough to get plenty of points, and/ or have people killed off. Just Bc you didn’t get a 4K doesn’t mean you didn’t do well as killer.