General Discussions
General Discussions
Overperforming Players
There are killer mains who will cause whatever character they choose to be meta to overperform. Changing the character's mechanics doesn't address the issue that many players have invested thousands of hours to become high skilled. They will just move onto the next character after the Spirit gets changed.
Nerfing killer mechanics makes it harder for players who are not at the same level as those driving these changes.
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If someone is a godlike Leatherface, this will not make Leatherface get nerfed. If certain individuals are good with a Killer, this does not mean that the Killer is overperforming.
But Spirit is really a Killer which does not need that much effort to be played, but has a huge outcome. I would call that overperforming, when you just have to have ears. Because, I have ears.
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Bad example, the cannibal lacks mobility. If Spirit is nerfd then more people will choose Billy and the Hag, and then suddenly those characters will be "overperforming."
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That's right, you and I are both pros overperforming way too much. It's a conspiracy to take us down !
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Why you should be entitled to say that playing spirit does not take much effort? Are you a main killer who played her consistently or its just your gut feeling?
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I play Spirit and every other Killer needs more effort to play. I have really good results with her, but it does not really feel like I am outplaying someone as I would do with Trapper, Billy, Pig or whoever I am playing regularly.
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Spirit is not "overperforming". The interaction between her and survivors shouldn't be changed at all. If BHVR is smart they only make it harder to play her, not easier to play against her.
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The only thing they need to do for spirit is give her a better visual sign for when she is phasing even tho she has one but people dont bother to pay attention.
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- No collision, everyone agree with that
- When start phasing, she brighten that can blind survivor if they look at her direction for 1-2 seconds (like very rare Flash light on Killer). However her power bar drop to 50% so she can not spam the effect/fake phasing. The other 50% bar still keep her current 5sec phasing.
Just random ideas.
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Her having collision literally saves me more than it kills me.
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You've just argued against yourself. You said that any killer a good player picks will over-perform, then immediately said that Leatherface can't over-perform. You can even go to a more extreme example and take the Hillbilly. The Hillbilly is still subject to pallets and windows. You get hit when you're out of position. His chainsaw limits his control. There's stuff that an equally good survivor can do to avoid going down if they outplay the killer. The better player has a chance to come out on top.
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Way to shift attention away from Bubba, we dont need people realizing how OP he is.
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Iron Will begs to be used. Sit down that adrenaline, we know you use it expecting to get the gens done every time
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When I suggest "whatever character" I don't mean "any character." The more hard core killers will not randomly coalesce around any killer but will instead determine the best wide ranging character available. People share information and it spreads. The game introduces new killers, perks and add-ons and eventually the strong builds become known and players will copy that.
Up until the recent Nurse change I am told the most common killers are the Hillbilly, Nurse and Spirit, with the Hag being up there. (I rarely play Survivor, so I don't know firsthand.) If both the Nurse and Spirit become harder to play and to get kills then the strong killer players will move towards what's still available.
If we're lucky then new opportunities open up. The Hag used to be awful but with one small tweak, reducing her trap setting time, she became very viable if not widely popular. If the Trapper ever gets a base kit with two traps then he will become much more common and strong.
Nerfing the Spirit won't solve the problem of stale gameplay by reducing the number of strong killers. IMO it'll just move the problem somewhere else, and probably quickly.
Like a number of people have pointed out, by making some half decent improvements to mid tier killers we'll see a wider of variety of them being used more often. Either that or fix the maps.
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If only this was the case, try using wraith in red ranks though 😂
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I use him every day, him and legion is the reason I'm r3
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Curious as to what builds you use, I don’t think I’ve lost to a wraith for 3 months. Legion has potential with his slow down build.
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Thats weird, how do you want to overperform with a bad killer? You are limited to the possiblitys of the mechanic of the Killer. You can be the best Legion in the world, you are still a M1 killer, that means if a survivors loops good, you will catch him ALWAYS after a long chase, unless the survivor does a mistake. With the most killers, even billy you are limited to the mistakes of the survivor. So that doesnt make sense what you say...
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"You've just argued against yourself. You said that any killer a good player picks will over-perform, then immediately said that Leatherface can't over-perform. You can even go to a more extreme example and take the Hillbilly."
So the developers are going to work backwards. Too many complaints about Spirit, how to keep them happy, therefore nerf.
As I suggest, the root problem is not going to go away. Whatever is perceived as the best killer an build will become meta and again the survivors will face fewer options.
That is not long term problem solving.
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Any post peanits comments on to me feels like the cool kid just walked in to set somebody straight.
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Had a different effect in me. I have less confidence in then now than before.
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