Spirit kills= devs nerf

He's right thou and you know it. Instaheals were a pain, and Omega 3blink nurse was a pain, BUT base kit nurse isn't a pain and is balanced since it had counters. It's almost as if you Devs don't even play Base kit nurse, and never knew how her power is juke.

You say you take back feedback, but you don't even look at it and the proof is literally the nurse nerf, and the legion "rework" (more as nerf, since you Devs are lazy, and don't bother looking at the whole picture, you guys are really short sighted, and seems like you don't look at the long term effects).

I hope you as a Dev reflect upon what you are doing to this game, but you Devs are literally killing it. I hope you enjoy programming AI killers, because I bet your boss is going to force you to do that since you guys are attempting to drive away the Killer population by nerfing strong killers to mid tier or low tier.

PC. 4 at the moment, higher when I'm not playing a lot of Plague who doesn't pip in most matches.

This is true i guess. But you understand that survivors generally dislike any feature that is moderately threatening to them? You are now nerfing 2 killers that were most threat for pallet loop meta. The next thing will be complains abaut billy, simply becouse he doesn't have many weaknesses, but he surely can be looped.

Cannot say it will be very fun to play against top tier survivors, when there are no top tier killers left. It's been proven again and again that most killers do not have enough map pressure AND chase potential against survivors who play optimally

Sad how accurate that is. It's like they think a temper tantrum will suddenly make old Nurse balanced.

Hmhm..meanwhile adding micro nerfs to killers..also the number of pallets shall only increase as per the devs new map design philosify..you see I take the killers side because it's the side that's not in a good spot..I'm more than willing to defend survivors or ideas gone too far but this is not one of those things..so before you try to silence someone by just saying something like "killer complaints are considered, do remember they made nurse even weaker than the ptb despite killer players feedback , ghost fave had the most feedback of anything I'd seen in dbd yet he got changed once again going against feedback, and now killers are getting clipped one by one all next to each other out of nowhere..so do forgive me if what your saying doesnt get more than a chuckle from me

this is the second time you have essentially admitted to balancing around disconnects ("fun")

So are you condoning killers to instantly disconnect from haddonfield and swf groups until you change that? i mean they are not "fun" either.

If the game is balanced around 2 kills and 2 survive, then why did i just kill 3 survivors (3 hooks each) with the last survivor on death hook, and still black pip?

I did nothing but chase- hit- kick gens all game and still did not earn a pip with 3 dead!@!#

your pip system is broken and needs a gigantic revamp if you want us to believe that the game is balanced around 2 die 2 survive, when the game its self is literally telling us that it is not.

If the Game is balanced after this mentality then why does the Emblem System only give a pip on purple/red ranks if three Survivors were sacrificed unless if the survivors don’t heal, do Gens in the first 5 Minutes and lose chases immediately but we know that the game doesn’t work like that on high ranks (which should be the only example for balancing the game considering players will eventually go there) . Ruin is pretty much a necessity for getting a good result on gatekeeper (which in of itself is a poor design choice). The reason the average Spirit Kill Rate is above average is because she’s a great Killer who can have consistent results based on the Skill of the Killer instead of having to hope the Survivors aren’t good and the map you play on isn’t an unfair one (like Rancid Abattoir, Blood Lodge, Fractured Cowshed, Badham V, Yamaoka Estate (as in they are unfair) ) like you have to with most killers. The Problem with Spirit is that the game is in a really bad state in terms of balancing so not changing things like Generator Repair Speeds, Legions insanely underwhelming Kit and Godloops before nerfing Killers is contributing to the issue even more. One thing I also find interesting to say the least is that your Argument as to why Spirit needs changes went from her being Unfun for Survivors to her “Overperforming” after Someone mentioned how fun is subjective. And maybe the Problem isn’t the Spirit Overperforming and instead other Killers underperforming.

I think the reason many people find it frustrating to go against Spirit is that you can’t do the same stuff you do against other Killers. This Game isn’t a 1v1. It’s a 1v4 so the Killer should eventually get you. And weaker Killers have to waste more time than better killers. That’s why they (better Killers) are getting played at higher ranks.

The Reason it may seem like I wasn’t talking much about Spirit is because the Problem is more complex than just “Spirit=Op and Unfun”. And once she will be nerfed and a new Killer takes her spot as Second Best Killer, People will complain about said Killer next.

"Gutted" is a little strong. They are different now, weaker sure, but they aren't "gutted". ?

Funny, that's the same comment made after her first nerf two years ago. I guess that didn't hold up too well and she required another nerf.

Hey peanits, if you guys at behaviour are taking into account the fun factor above everything else.. care to explain me why they made the nurse the most un-fun killer so far? Because it looks like when talking about killers you guys forget about that.

You'll see 2x more complaining and critiquing her than you will defending her. She's a big problem for a large majority of the playerbase.

Allow me to ask a few question, do you consider disconnects as kills in that case? And additionally, do you consider matches with disconnects when you make such analysis?

I know from the past (Freddy) that you in fact considered disconnects as kills and that you counted unfair matches with disconnects for such statistics - regardless of the unbalance that was forcefully created by a Survivor.

I remember that old Freddy was also considered an "overperforming" Killer" because apparently he had such a high "kill" count. What you / the developers forgot to consider is that the disconnects and the unbalanced matches were responsible for this, not Freddy himself.

She isn't fun to face, and while some people like @GrootDude and many others like the challenge... facing her over, and over, and over, and over again because she's the top meta isn't fun.

But that isn't why she isn't fun, the general mechanics of how she works in chases and loops isn't fun... and i'm speaking in-general for the majority that face her. Yes, spirit isn't the omega Killer that can kill any Survivor... a good team and even some good Survivors on the team can loop her pretty decently...

But... that's just a minority... if we're looking at the majority this isn't the case. You could just say "git gud" at that point, but "giting gud" with a Killer that isn't fun to play or go against isn't the answer...

Also, the DCing that she causes from her mechanics is ALSO not fun to face... it isn't fun having my entire team bail on me while the Spirit doesn't care and still goes 100% on you.

The reason that people are facing her over and over and over again is because they aren't enough viable killers in the game. If there was more strong, viable killers people will be playing them.

I am boycotting playing killer on ps4 until this ######### ends. Legion massacre was enough for me. The only thing on Legion that needed to be nerfed was moon walking. Base kit changes to nurse was bad, spirit only needed collision and add on changes.

freddy “buff” only needed To be able to hit survivors out of dream world and putting survivors to sleep added some challenge.

Go nerf billy now.