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Nerf the nurse
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Stop trying to pallet loop the Nurse and use her real counter - stealth.
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waaaaah i want looping to be a brainless beat em all against every killer not just every killer except nurse9
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Pallet looping is a good defense for someone with no weapons. Give us a bat or a knife or a gun to shoot the killer with to maim them and then we won’t need pallets!2
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rObLoCo said:Pallet looping is a good defense for someone with no weapons. Give us a bat or a knife or a gun to shoot the killer with to maim them and then we won’t need pallets!
You absolutely don't need it to survive, try losing the killer for once in your life instead of relying on 0 skill looping3 -
Maybe they should buff her so we can see her more often!! She is my favorite to go against but I go days without seeing her
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@yeet said:
rObLoCo said:Pallet looping is a good defense for someone with no weapons. Give us a bat or a knife or a gun to shoot the killer with to maim them and then we won’t need pallets!
Pallet looping is a brainless and boring free win that offers 0 reliable counterplay.
You absolutely don't need it to survive, try losing the killer for once in your life instead of relying on 0 skill loopingwired 0kill looping only happen yellow killer vs red survivor now
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jiyeonlee said:
@yeet said:
rObLoCo said:Pallet looping is a good defense for someone with no weapons. Give us a bat or a knife or a gun to shoot the killer with to maim them and then we won’t need pallets!
Pallet looping is a brainless and boring free win that offers 0 reliable counterplay.
You absolutely don't need it to survive, try losing the killer for once in your life instead of relying on 0 skill loopingwired 0kill looping only happen yellow killer vs red survivor now
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@Orion said:
Stop trying to pallet loop the Nurse and use her real counter - stealth.Or mindgames or Lery's or Dead Hard or play console or corn or bad ping or disconnect or...you get the idea.
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To be fair, with the aura reading perks (bbq & chili, bitter murmur), make your choice, tinkerer (if you swing that way), and some other stuff, the only thing that's stopping the Nurse from curb-stomping survivors are bad nurse players, not running hex ruin and survivors with toolboxes are actually working on gens rather than trying to pallet loop nurse (and failing), and actually good jukes from decent survivors. So... I don't actually have anything to contribute to this conversation.
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A maximum of 2 blinks is what she needs. 2 blinks really do require skill and knowledge of the game. 3 blinks and more is too much and does not require any skill. Everything else in this killer should remain as it is now, with 2 blinks (and some weakening of addons for range and speed), it can be considered balanced.
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Nurse is on the watch list of the devs and will be nerfed in the mid chapter patch of chapter 14.
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Nurse was the most heavily-nerfed character in the game's history, which then made her the worst killer in the game.
She did not receive any buffs between being the worst killer in the game and becoming the best killer in the game. All that had to happen was for survivors to get worse. They got worse by leaning more on their biggest crutches: infinites, then pallet-loops.
Nurse became better because survivors forgot how to play against her. They were told before she was nerfed how she could be beaten, but ignored it. They only paid attention after they got the unjustified nerf to happen, making her useless. Losing that information with their goldfish memories was as good as deleting the Nurse's obvious glaring weaknesses. Those weaknesses got worse during the engine-revamp, which permanently set every killer's viewpoint further forward and meant we can't see anything right in front of us.
It's never going to be enough though. Survivors will not stop trying to nerf Nurse even more.
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The only thing that should happen to Nurse, is making it so that she can't get more than 3 blinks. She should never have more than 3. It breaks her balance and makes it so a bad Nurse can make mistakes and still have room to correct it. 3 blinks hits that sweet spot of giving a little wriggle room with mistakes but if you mess up a blink you're punished. Plus people who have her down pat, can easily go with just 2 and be fine. 4+ blinks is ridiculous and stupid. But no less than 3.1
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The only thing that should happen to Nurse, is making it so that she can't get more than 3 blinks. She should never have more than 3. It breaks her balance and makes it so a bad Nurse can make mistakes and still have room to correct it. 3 blinks hits that sweet spot of giving a little wriggle room with mistakes but if you mess up a blink you're punished. Plus people who have her down pat, can easily go with just 2 and be fine. 4+ blinks is ridiculous and stupid. But no less than 3.0
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@Mister_xD said:
@Orion said:
Stop trying to pallet loop the Nurse and use her real counter - stealth."stealth"? what is that? can i eat that?
No, but if you don't use it, you'll be eating a hook through your shoulder.
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The nurse in her base form does not need any nerfs. Some of her addons however should be reworked. The 4 and 5 blink nurse in my opinion should be removed and then changed to something that helps optimize the 2 blink nurse. Longer lunge, lower fatigue, faster base movement speed as some ideas. Fragile wheeze should then be made an ultra rare so that 3 blink nurse is still a possibility but not as common.
That is the only changes i would make to her.
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@Orion said:
@Mister_xD said:
@Orion said:
Stop trying to pallet loop the Nurse and use her real counter - stealth."stealth"? what is that? can i eat that?
No, but if you don't use it, you'll be eating a hook through your shoulder.
if i cant eat that, i dont want it!
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rObLoCo said:can we make 2 blinks max for the nurse, also can you keep her from blinking through pallets, put a cross on it and call it sacred I don’t know. It sucks to not be able to really use the pallets vs her
Iron Will: As a nurse player, I reply on sound to know where to blink at if I don't have LoS on you. Without any audio for me to listen to... I'm doing a blind guess on where you are at and can make me lose you.
Calm Spirit: Again, I struggle when survivors use this because it mutes the survivors' scream when I injure them and I can loss you during the fatigued time.
Dead Hard: You can survive a swing from her and can extended the chase slightly! However usually when I know someone has Dead Hard, I'll blink directly behind them, wait, they use Dead Hard, then I'll blink again to down them. <== Try your best to not get baited!
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@rObLoCo said:
can we make 2 blinks max for the nurse, also can you keep her from blinking through pallets, put a cross on it and call it sacred I don’t know. It sucks to not be able to really use the pallets vs herThere's your problem if your getting rekt by nurse, DO NOT PALLET LOOP HER LIKE EVERY OTHER KILLER!
Nurse requires more skill to beat, knowing where LoS breakers are and utilizing them to lose her mid chase is the key to juking her, not the usual brain-dead run around stuff 3-4 times before dropping the pallet, rinse & repeat.
Iron will & urban evasion also gives average nurses a hard time so try mixing those in your builds.
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Dont pallet loop....just go to a place full of walls!0 -
Try finger butthole0
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I agree.. nerf her hard.. So annoying..
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Herman Carter would like to speak with you.
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You can juke the nurse by running behind the obstacle and move in unexpected direction...
Also you can stop the nurse mid-blink with pallet drop.0 -
rObLoCo said:can we make 2 blinks max for the nurse, also can you keep her from blinking through pallets, put a cross on it and call it sacred I don’t know. It sucks to not be able to really use the pallets vs her1
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Nurse is in a good place she shouldn’t be touched because she can easily be countered if played against correctly before nurse is even looked at the rest of the killer should be able to do what she does as well all killers should get major buffs to play just as well as the nurse with of course that they can be counter wraith is weak agains flashlights so that means since there that huge counter wraith should get a good buff trapper can get a huge buff just make were is traps don’t come back after being sabotaged like idk how you all feel about this but this I what I feel because it’s dumb for every single killer except nurse that pallet looping is the number one strat were I would prefer haveing killers super strong with one major counter (just not a counter so bad that it makes the killer weak) so that way each killer brings different excitement and play styles to play against which is why it’s fun to face a nurse because your not just pallet looping1
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Don't forget the biggest enemy of THE POWERFUL NURSE! - tires. Those rubber circles stacked in a pile are hell0
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DepravedKiller said:
Nurse is on the watch list of the devs and will be nerfed in the mid chapter patch of chapter 14.
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More blinks longer fatig after blink = balance killer? no need change mayby only some afdons.0