Here's our Daily Reminder that playing Nurse still feels miserable.

This daily reminder, reminds me why nurse should never have been introduced to the game in the first place.

My question is why the devs allowed such a broken killer into the game, to begin with.

Now you're just mischaracterising my argument and conflating your own arguments

She's broken, she's always been broken. She was introduced to counter REAL infinites and killers still complained so REAL infinites were removed.

She should never have been introduced because she broke the game. This magical line of yours where she was 'OK at one stage' doesn't exist.

And you pointing the finger at me while misconstruing my argument is the equivalent of trying to rile up the mob while yelling 'get him'.

Devs should have never allowed such a broken killer in the game to begin with.

Killers still complained because not everyone wanted to play nurse. And her power was fine, it was her add ons that where the problem. And the changed those...and then continued to beat her with the nerf bat for no good reason afterwards.

'you cannot run nurse around loops like with other killers?'

Now we get to the heart of YOUR argument. A good nurse who always hits their mark. I have an analogy of survivor running in an open field in a straight line. Because that's what your arguing for a 'degree of challenge, but I still win'. And you're not evening talking about REAL infinites are you, your talking about pallet loopers too judging by your framing.

'Nurse was nerfed the same time where those infinites gone'

Once again, you either have no idea or your just lying.

No, infinites were up a number of months after nurse release. It was only after devs realised killers were still complaining that infinites were gone. So along with some nurse tweaks (I struggle to even call them nerfs until recently) you had infinites gone, bloodlust added, entity blocker added exhaustion added and now more recently with end game timer and hatch close ALL benefiting your precious nurse.

I'm sorry but you are either new to DBD or you don't remember the history of this game.

'And that brings to my final question. Have you ever played nurse before? Or killer in general? If you think that nurse is still op and deserves further nerf, play her with 2 add-ons that nerf her lunge and blink distance, without perks in rank 1 for 10 games a row. Let's see how many 4k you can get.'

I made rank 1 killer when there were REAL infinites in the game, there was no exhaustion so Sprint Burst would recycle during chases and could be used in conjuction with Balanced Landing. Back then too, Auto Haven had long walls and more pallets when there was no 'slow vault'.

I think this conversation is done.

Despite the slight hyperbole type slant to your post you raise some good points.

'nurse had many deadspots which screwed her blinks completely.'

Yes, there were dead spots and survivors could use them and it persisted for sometime. But the devs actively worked to remove those dead spots and nurse mains figured they could come at those dead spots from different angles to remove them. There was never a 100% safe place EVER from nurse blink. So its a mute point resolved over time.

'Survivors had to rely on skill'

What your referring to here is 'mindgaming' the nurse, because if a nurse knew where you would move next, you'd take a hit. By that logic you could have left REAL infinites in the game because my strat for them as a killer was to mindgame the survivors. So just to make sure you're consistent in your argument, not just picking and choosing.

'Just remove everything resembling skill for survivors and be a better lab rat with memorized routes.'

Then you show your true hand. Another upset nurse player that final got their due.

That's not the problem people have with the cooldown. Its that playing her is far more BORING due to the increased downtime. The increased downtime also means that its far more punishable to play Nurse, so players learning her is bound to give up faster.

The cooldown on Blink never should have happened. Everyone wanted an add-on rework but Behavior outright ignores what the community thinks.

Deadspots still exist in the game and you do not need a place to be 100% safe that shouldn't be the case in a game such as this as you do not need to have it just to use it in a chase. The point stands has to do with experience.

Also no this has nothing to do with infinites while there are no infinites in the game any longer there are still hilarious bad loops in the game commonly referred to as "god loops". They still exist in the game. You seem to be confused what a tactic is and what a strategy is, you do not have a strategy for those but a tactic. There is nothing you can actually really do as they are so safe that you will waste a huge amount of time no matter whether the killer decides to "mindgame" (what do you mean by mindgaming those? hoping that survivors never look back and are so bad that they do not see the big counterrotation?) i would like to see that.

Nice tactic hoping that the other player is dumb.

Actually I play mostly survivor but nurse is was the only killer to actually keep the pace up for a set group of people who are not braindead. Yeah my true hand is that I dislike the fact that I do not like to no longer or rarely see the killer anymore. Also my steamprofile is filled with survivors commenting how they enjoyed the match, you know having a fun game for everyone. That was another great thing about the nurse, you didnt have to play optimal and "rush" for a kill and could play fair. People enjoyed that on both sides, but with this rework this is no longer the case and survivors do have 0 fun at least that is the feedback what i get from people and it is my biggest complaint about the state the killer is in. Why? Well the punishment for missing blinks is quite severe thus you will use your ability as efficient as possible. F being fair, let them die on first hook, such fun, much wow.

This also has to do with bad survivors and this was always the case but hey lets act as if every survivor in red ranks is a good player 🤣 also lets ignore that most people stated multiple times that the very reason why they die most is not due to op killers but due to dumb teammates. This is why people like me remove this factor completely and play with a group of people.

Also you might want to actually bother to try to understand what was written before you make really dumb assumptions about statements while it is clear that you havent read the complaints at all.

@FearedbytheGods

Yeah so explain to me how you mindgame the incredible safe god loops that still exist in the game vs good survivors. I really just wanna see that. But you simply can not do it that is the point of those loops which still remain in the game.

Why would I blame deadspots on survivors? I just literally tell survivors to use them as they are fair use.

I don't care what you think of or about me, I am bored with my friends of this game. The devs do not even recognize swf as a problem and how easy you can outplay most killers as is. Their community managers say "just goofing around with friends" well most nurse players also sucked and this shown via the stats published several times. I dislike a double standard when it comes to balancing. Same guy btw replied to me stating, there are indeed games where he couldn't have done anything better and still loses. This is almost admitting the problem at hand but not entirely.

No worries running in a straight line is a very solid and effective counterplay to nurse right now, literally run to the nearest LoS blocker. Adjust angle and keep running, what happens is the nurse either commits to tryin to predict which always ends in a fail and thus every nurse player will blink to the LoS blocker and not be able to keep up unless certain addons used.

Sweaty killers do ruin it but the problem is why they are sweaty i doubt that most people would play the way they do as they have barely anytime left to do what they should "make an entertaining game for the entity" thus the objectives get rushed be it via gens or kills doesnt matter and it makes for a not so enjoyable experience. Survivors do need something new, holding m1 isn't entertaining thus adjusting gen speeds doesn't help they need a new objective, new mechanics.

@FearedbytheGods

I don't need a history lesson on how that mode came to be, on a sidenote, they always claimed it was intended to be made in the first place but that at release they had to decide between kyf / swf and went with kyf because they do know that in this time and age you can not make a game like that without the possibility to have people play with their friends.

I think the biggest problem for SOLOQ survivors is due to the rank system, it is significantly easier to rank up as survivor where as a killer (game being balanced around the 2k) you know where the pips leave you at a certain rank. This leads to bad teammates and at least for me is the very reason why I do not play soloq, i detest to play with people who are unable to hit hex ruin skillchecks and have very bad decision making.

As for the god loops, i just wanted you to acknowledge that you have to run them because many of them are in places which you can easily reach from lots of places on the map and you have to accept that this just wastes your time. Sure running for another survivor is a possibilty but for the sake of argument you should assume they are all equally skilled so when you find a new survivor he will go to the loop as well.

The problem that you see is heavily related to the one that I explained earlier or at least my view on things. Friends of mine are willing to play soloq, while we hang out in discord, you know i watch them and do not know why exactly they want to pull up with it. However these matches are part of the game, mistakes lead to such, you will have such beatdowns or whatever you may want to call it in every game.

@Glory

The only nonsense comes from you, who didn't bother to read the thread and ignores proposed nurse changes by the people that play her. Ignorance is bliss.