General Discussions
General Discussions
Remove Ruin and Surveillance combo
With these changes, doctor becoming too OP. I don't wanna play this game until these changes reverted.This game becoming M1 simulator.
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Did you see the Tru3 video? Survivors can't even do gens when ruin is active
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I agree, this combo should be deactivated. It's too op
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I saw a video of all five gens getting done posted by Tru3 where two got out only because the last person messed up.
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0/10 overused and too obvious rank 20 bait, tru3 said ruin is trash.
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You realize nobody plays seriously in the PTB? Since nothing matters, people play how they want. A lot of survivors i saw in his vids were dicking around looking at the rats in the stalls.
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Come on, you should do harder when you want to be taken seriously. tru3-video... A bait cannot be more obvious.
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Remove the killer!
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Remove the doctor, ruin, and surveillance. I saw a professional killer beat some survivors with it in one video and I think this is definitely reason enough. I'm something of a video game scientist, believe me guys.
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I like tru3 but ruin + surv combo with doctor too broken. Perma gen aura ability...
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Remove the game!
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This is a bait but I should state this for people who wont do the research. You can watch Tru3's other games from his twitch and in at least one of them he got dominated as Doctor using the Ruin+Surveillance combo. He also stated that Ruin should not be a hex anymore since the hex treatment is too much of a downside for its current state.
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13:40 minutes. Like i said, it is too much
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Lmao
I didn't realize these two perks together unlocked a special, hidden effect.
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This one thing happened once and that means that this is overall too much. VERY good mentality.
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Two people still got out and it would’ve been three if the Ace played smart at the end. Why should games end in five minutes? That’s not very fun for either side.
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It all goes back to the survivors - if your match has Ruin, go find the totem and cleanse it.
It's really not that hard.
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2 escapes and 2 kills are balanced.14 minutes game not funny from survivor perspective. 5 or 6 minutes should be max
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But two died because the Ace ran right to Tru3, if every survivor did that then killers would have a 100% kill rate, that wouldn’t make killers op.
I main survivor and matches over ten minutes are the best ones because we actually have time for everyone to play and get some enjoyment.
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Yeah let's nerf Ruin more. It isn't garbage enough.
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lol
That actually made me laugh, but worry at the same time.
10/10
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It was only two kills because the last Survivor tried an unnecessarily dangerous play for style points at the very instead of getting out sensibly and got punished. Had the Survivor actually legitimately cared about escaping, that would have been only one kill that was made after all the gens were finished.
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If games longer than 10+ minutes. How survivors can escape?
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Watch the video I linked you.
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Two Survivors did it just fine in that video. The only reason the third did not was because they decided to get greedy for no real reason.
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I watched and these survivors are bad. They can't even loop
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Why does everyone use tru3 videos as evidence for stuff it makes no sense
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They did though, docs power has the potential to stop loops and if they’re so bad but two escaped then you’re proving that this combo doesn’t need nerfed since “bad” survivors managed to get two escapes, if these survivors are bad then imagine average or good survivors.
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Because he speaks the tru3th. Tru3 is love. Tru3 is life. La li tru3 le lo. La li tru3 le lo.
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So anything about not favoring killers are bait post?
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Because he uploads a lot
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I really wish people would stop using the first thing they see in their youtube feed as evidence.
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It is bait though ######### bait too just boring and flavourless
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Ok. I am not gonna argue with you. You are not mod so keep your opinion yourself if it is not about the post
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Oh so only mods can talk in here? Okay then you are also not a mod so keep your greasy fingers off the keyboard mr gluttony
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I know the OP is pretty much troll bait, but regardless, I'd actually agree with the removal of this perk interaction. Not because it's OP or anything, only because it is inconsistent with the other perks that killers use to affect generators (i.e. Pop Goes the Weasel and Overcharge). The fact that the text of Surveillance specifies "regressing generators" and not "after preforming a break generator action" (i.e kicking) is a technicality that I do not believe is intentional and purely coincidence. When Surveillance was created, the only way a killer could regress a generator was with through a kick. Now that Surge has been added, and Ruin being changed, yes, killers now get the ability to regress gens through those means, but why should Surveillance work but not Overcharge? Obviously Pop is a different story, since it is not always available.
Obviously, the interaction of Ruin applying Overcharge every time would be quite brutal, though there is a debate to be had regarding gen tapping or preventing regression with 1 frame of animation during a chase, but since ruin skill checks are already too difficult for some percentage of the DBD community, it is folly to think they would allow Overcharge to interact with Ruin. Therefore, for consistency, I don't think Surveillance should either (same logic should apply to Surge too).
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Tbf, I used a Tru3 video simply because op was referring to Tru3 videos.
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Oh nothing against you I am totally up for using peoples own crappy evidence against them. I just wish people like the op for example would stop watching a Tru3 video and run to the forums complaining without even questioning it.
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Just cleanse. It’s that simple. Don’t touch a gen until you cleanse.
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Can someone tell me how this 0/10 system works? What does one have to do to get 10/10 on this score?
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You have to have finished school with only ever getting A+’s.
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All the gens were done in a little bit over 9 minutes. It really wasn't a too long match. And as someone else said, it should've been a 3 man escape if not for Ace's misplay.
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Gens take forever with that combo because killer always run to the yellow gens.Thats the problem.I like chases but sometimes you need to rush gen when killer is chasing someone
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The fact that people actually listen to Tru3 and don't see how incredibly stupid he is, is hilarious to me. The man days the dumbest ######### I've ever heard and never has any good reasons for why he believes stuff. The man should never be taken seriously
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And yet people take most of the posts on here serious.
You don't have to agree with tru3, but you can't deny he is good at the game. He explains how he likes to play and expresses his opinions. Whether you agree with him or not, he has a style of play that often works for him. You may not like his attitude, or wardrobe or whatever, but he IS successful at the game the way he is trying to play.
And yes i do agree with some of what he says. I also disagree. I don't think hes very entertaining but he is knowledgeable.
So flame me for being a tru3 apologist or whatever. I just don't understand the absolute hate that he is targeted with.
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Lol just cleanse the totem. He says he doesn't wanna get chased and lose progress on the gen yet he continues to try to repair instead cleansing the totem. As devs said just cleanse the totem as it is part of the game and doing so will weaken the killer greatly. Or keep doing what you do and ask devs to nerf a nerfed hex ruin even more lol.
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Dont worry their chasing them all off slowly. Lol
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