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Clicking also doesn't stop gameplay. Annoying yeah but compared to body blocking and facing. I'm not saying survivors aren't toxic, been sandbagged by my own team A TON and the full flashlight team should have a limit per team. Like honestly dude I play killer more BECAUSE of other survivors. That doesn't mean I shouldn't…

Teabagging doesn't stop gameplay. But lets talk about body blocking from survivors, 100% would not mind if they penalized that too. Face camping is the problem because it stops gameplay and defeats the whole purpose of the chase mechanics. It should be fixed since they were able to keep survivors from holding still (crows)…

Ignoring that I said tunneling and proxy camping are valid. Face campers are not, that's not entitlement that's expecting to be able to play the game. So unless you face camp whole games you have literally no reason to be here. But then again so many have claimed they don't do it but still argue it's not over used.…

Nope just want to play the game. Penalize hook facers that do nothing but hold up the game and take it under control. Hands down this game is way more fun as the killer and people not even chasing in favor of abusing game mechanics? lmfao come on dude that's not playing. No one HAS to play as a survivor but we need them to…

Pffttt the killer knows where the gens are. I never said survivors weren't toxic, but clicking and crouching too much aren't stopping you or me from being a killer. Hook facing and slugging on the other hand does and makes zero sense for a game based on chase. It should be penalized again like the vaulters and people who…

Ok so they should be addressing it again and that's why me and all the other people annoyed with not getting to play are doing. It's not a hill to die on its feedback and still should be penalized.

There is none being broken. The point of the whole post was that facers who slug hooked people the whole game and hijack it SHOULD be penalized since survivors can't hold still or over vault. I even said in the post that no rules were broken but I had dealt with it so much that it made playing pointless and no fun as a…

Only it's not just two people. These forums are rife with posts just like this one but nice try. Facing while slugging a whole game should be penalized the same way vaulters and survivors who hold still too long get penalized.

They can't more often thab not and it still hijacks a game for one or more people who are actually trying to play iy. Unhooking is apart of the game. Chasing is apart of the game. Killing is apart of the game. Standing there staring is no and should be penalized as the abuse it is. Survivors can't hold still for too long…

I have so goodbye to the ground you was just tryna stand on. I enjoy killer and wouldn't face someone a whole game because I still think it takes no skill. And also if you had taken time to actually read the issue is facers thag slug the whole match. The whole match. That is toxic and takes advantage of game mechanics so…

They can kill, it's apart of the game. So is chasing. So is unhooking. Facing while slugging is not it and is defintely toxic so has no place. Vaulters get penalized so should killers who abuse the game.

Facing another player the whole game is definitely toxic and should be penalized.

You keep saying end game and ignoring the ones that do it the whole time, ya know the ones I'm talking about. Which they do at high rates or i wouldn't be here nor multiple other OPs with this same issue. That is not valid gameplay and pretending it is sounds like a toxic unlearning process you need to learn. Vaulters are…

And the player base is saying that's not working. Toxic is toxic and it has no place when people should be allowed to play without being stuck on hooks with facers the whole game.

And it has nothing to do with my play style and everything to do with being able to play the game. Toxic gameplay makes it not fun for other players and that has been proven time and time again so it should be penalized as such.

That is true and in every game it's not allowed because it controls gameplay. Saying it doesn't just because devs do doesn't help your case when it needs to change. Toxic behaviour like facing a whole game deserves to be penalized in the same way that survivors get penalized.

Ahhh yes, this is something they shouldn't allow at all along with hook facers who do it the whole game. It's toxic and I've seen survivors do it to killer, but it's actually agaisnt the rules for survivors but not killers so idk. Their rules are backwards and encourages toxicity from both sides when neither should be…

There's plenty of evidence that you choose to ignore. Like how specifically it's toxic and has no place in multiplayer games. I'm still talking about facers and slug spammers because they do derail the game and take control. They prevent unhooking which is apart of the game and do not participate in chasing if they are…

Because you say we don't understand and we all are saying we do and it needs to be changed. Calling for an admin to stop discussion just because you disagree isn't it, even less when you clearly are not grasping the concept of it needs to change.

They are and it's through a toxic type of gameplay that has no place in multiplayer games. Everyone should be allowed to play and whole game facers are breaking it so should be penalized for it. It's happening so often I wasn't even the newest post on this. No one is mad they get killed, you said that. But facers being…

And it's funny because I'm the one unhooking so say goodbye to that ground you were standing on lol Toxic is toxic and it has no place in games because you're supposed to play, not get easy kills.

I'm not mad or upset, I want to play the game. Unhooking is apart of the game. The game isn't only for the killers or there wouldn't be 4 other people in the match. They stop vaulters from abusing a mechanic. Killers are supposed to chase too so again them using game mechanics to hold it hostage is toxic and should be…

They aren't coming in because you're the one getting off topic. It SHOULD be when they do it the whole game and facing while slugging is their mo instead of actually playing the game.

"Sometimes" "End game" Yeah well keep arguing for those things when the problem is facing THE WHOLE GAME. Which is the problem you keep ignoring and it does stop gameplay. They should be penalized for it.

People keep saying it's detrimental snd I'm still saying it's veing used in a toxic way to a point that it's chasing a ton of players off. It derails the whole game when they find people at the start, which they do and can catch because killers are made for the chase. Also know they have perks to see people on the map…

Pressure doesn't stop gameplay like facing and slugging the whole game does. It's broken that it's allowed and should be penalized for abuse just like survivors get blocked for vaulting too much. It has nothing to do with upset and everything to do with wanting to play the game, choosing to ignore that for toxic gameplay…

If killers are made to catch then it's even worse that so many of them face while slugging people. That literally contradicts the point of the chase mechanic if they stay in one spot. Abuse is abuse when it makes the game harder to play and not in the competitive sense.

I appreciate the support and tbh that's how it will continue to go if we don't start actually pushing for it. I'm not looking for agreement, I'm looking for options and people willing to give their opinion on this when it gets abused the way it does.

I'm not, i am expecting them not to abuse facing and slugging while someone is on the hook when survivors aren't allowed to vault too much. Which as I have said multiple times, facing is the real problem when they don't move.

Only they say come here if you disagree. And I do, as do many other people at least on facing because it breaks the game. You can still say it should be changed but telling someone it is what it is doesn't work for me when facing has practically ruined the game. They stopped over vaulting then there is zero reason they…

Only it isn't because you came here after I commented on a prokiller thing with facts about how it breaks gameplay. Then you continued to not add anything to the topic here like I haven't seen you commenting on multiple people's threads telling them they are wrong for wanting it penalized. So where did you see it was only…

You're not playing if you're stopping all gameplay for others. Which is what facing does. It's toxic and clearly didn't prevent anything lmfao It happens constantly and is the main reason public matches are quick and pitiful. The same reason the vaults are not allowed to be abused is the same reason that facers should be…

Only it isn't fair to the person who didn't get to play because there's many other ways to kill survivors. Ignoring gens popping for a kill isn't even playing when it takes thag long and they've been facing since the start of the match. Those are the problem and they are literally saturating the killers. If vaulting is…

It's also apart of the game to unhook other players and it still breaks the game in the same way over vaulting did. Toxic behaviour that is not playing when they can in fact find people right at the start of a match and DO use it to their advantage to keep that player from actually participating. Vaulting got blocked when…

Do you not know what thread you're in or what? The whole thing is about how they should be penalized for toxic behaviour. Which is what face camping is because it hijacks the game.

You mean exactly why they need to fix it? Lol Rip because it's controlling the game and should be penalized for the toxic behaviour it is. Acting like it isn't because you wanna do it is your problem, it keeps people from playing. Stay mad at facts I guess lol

You can get the link all you want, them allowing it is the problem BECAUSE it is controlling the game. Using the rules we want fixed because it's not encompassing killers who abuse it is moot. Stay mad it should be penalized and no amount of acrobatics can change it just because you wish it wasn't the case.

Toxic behaviour and it is blocking someone playing the game, reporting system itself defines it as against the rules then turns around ans allows it. If survivors get blocked from vaulting too much then so should kiklers when they face too much. Games are meant to be played and writing me a very long message that says…

LMFAO ok dude keep acting like it's not the same but it is and it is toxic. Keeping someone from playing the game is still what is written in game reporting. They can do it to survivors and they defined it themselves then ignore it. You were planning to undermine me based off experience from the second you asked the first…

Also I really don't care about campers and tunnelers. I've said it before it's frustrating but those aren't enough to keep me from playing a whole match. Facers do in fact do that and that's why it's toxic. Players are not supposed to be taking control of a game, they are supposed to be playing it.

It is STILL taking control of another person's game and you can find it in the report section in game. Been watching it for a long time because my friends played and streamed it often. Only been playing for a couple months but if you're trying to imply I haven't seen enough to know it's a real problem then that would not…

Rescuing is apart of the game, dying because someone toxic wants to be a problem insead of an active player is not. It's taking advantage of the game and when survivors are blocked from vaulting if they do it too much then killers surely can not guard a hook and get penalized in a similar way if they do.

The game did. Literally defines the behaviour as body blocking then in the fine print killers are allowed. That's toxic because of how much people use it and still devs ignore that it's a real problem for people who just wanna play a public match. Also taking advantage of game mechanics but again killers get a pass which…

Are you really going to act like killers don't have perks that make people easy to find right at the start if they are close enough, lying here is pointless because I use ine so know they work. How else would they be knocking people down so fast at the start? Lol you can't talk your way out of toxic behaviour when body…

Ah yes well in online matches it's a little hard to do wheb someone is hooked and you gotta save them because no one else is getting off a gen.

Idk why it didn't quote like the last three people I talked to. Because it prevents gameplay of a player, that makes the action toxic and taking advantage of game mechanics. Never had gens pop so fast that a killer didn't get to play.

Yes to Hag and a little bit of the randos n strangers not being able to communicate and causing bad maneuvering. She found me and her obsession right away while we was working on a gen and faced them on the hook when she caught them. I had killed a totem so she didn't see me right away but I was right next to the gen too.…

That would work if I wasnt getting facers, can't sneak up on them. They should get penalized.

NEVER played a match where that played out so trying that flimsy reasoning when toxic is way worse and ALSO prevents gameplay is reaching hard. I have tons of perks that allow me to see survivors when gens get finished and have planned accordingly around stairs or buildings because my aim is trash. So unless you're…

You support toxic, game breaking, and people not being allowed to play on the off chance that your opinion changes our insane experiences I've also been having with facers. It doesn't change that it has happened often and it has cost the fun of the game because of perks and traps. It's not entitled or naive to point out…