Ghostface31

It's possible but not against a 4 man swf who is organized

I play rank 1 killer and survivor most loops are no where near killer sided and high mobility killer are playable against in solo play ik cause I play both sides at the highest level the game is heavily biased to survivor

Try going against an organized actually good at the game swf it's hard I'm a rank 1 killer and I've gone against a four man swf that were organized it's impossible to win, even as spirit or nurse I doubt you could win.

Rank 1 usually sometimes rank 2 I main ghostface, Huntress, Wraith and spirit

I can say ruin being gone early or instantly on a small map doesn't effect me that much but on a bigger map it's worse

Playing that map as survivor I'm exactly the same I know most of will likely escape so there's no worry, I've won only a few times and they were either potatoes or I was playing spirit(post-nerfed) all times I needed ruin or else gen rush

Yes playing low mobility killers on red forest or rotten fields, feels bad, ruin makes it easier

You are the first person to understand this I swear

No it's not cause you even with a toolbox ruin still slows people down and keys don't work till there is only 2 or 1 gen

I'm not talking about doctor I like the doctor change I don't like the ruin nerf i was never talking just about the doctor there is other low mobility killers I don't main doctor

Applying pressure gets harder when your low mobility and on a large map with ruin they either waste time finding it or or it just slows them down.

Ghostface, Spirit, Wraith, and Huntress

You have a better chance with ruin and yeah a good team will likely do gens fast but sometimes it can really help slow down gens and buy time

The big maps are the main thing that make ruin a good perk because if you have a large map that will make it harder to pressure gens without ruin harder not impossible but alot harder when you have to travel large distances

It isn't the ruin dependant killer it's the big maps that make pressuring the gens without ruin harder but I can do well even when ruin is destroyed instantly on smaller maps

I can agree to that

You say that to me but you don't say that to the survivors that say it's "frustrating" to go up against ruin and doctor and losing ruin is not bad on some maps but on red forest losing ruin is like losing your arms while you have no legs

But taking away tools to help killers win against the better survivors isn't what should be happening they need to seperate them I had a full rank 2 team go against me as ghostface with ruin on badham and they got three gens done but they couldn't do really well on skill checks I saw them failing them and bad survivors…

I know there is other slowdown perks I like running pop but with the new ruin change I can use pop and ruin in the same combination I have tried corrupt but it doesn't work well on big maps with killers like ghostface who don't have huge Mobility

Pressure gets really hard to do when your a low mobility killer on a bigger map you have to consider this

Ye or it lasts a decent amount of time they don't hit the skill checks either of those buys time for the killer especially on bigger maps

Ruin is to help against gen rushing

Good teams can mess up and when they do they will want ruin gone when they will look for it wasting time which is very helpful not all good teams can hit ruin skill checks

Ruin helps keep gen pressure when you get a good team or big map or your a low mobility killer

The survivors need to adapt to doing skillchecks or finding the totem it's simple

I where your coming at but the devs have been hacking at killers for awhile, while survivors have minimal changes.

I just think they shouldn't address it by changing ruin to a perk where you have to focus on gens while it ignores that you get one survivor off the other three will just get on another one and if you don't want that to happen you'll have to camp all the gens and doing so on a big map with a low mobility killer is hard the…