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Me love my Christmas skins Yes, they removed SO MANY skins with this move, I love my store with ONE LESS SKIN per character, it was so messy before..

Don't take things that literally, it was an example, but as long as I don't break copyrights and I don't say that the cards are original, I'm not breaking the law. But as I said, it was an example to show how saying "Eh, it's your problem if you can't think straight or control yourself" is a dumb saying. People who buy…

Then WHY are you attacking people complaining? "Look over there, someone else is doing it!" doesn't make it okay. It's not okay if Smite does it, it's not okay if DBD does it, but I don't play Smite and this is not Smite's forum.

Selling things to children is not illegal, last time I checked Nor is selling clearly fake things, as long as I don't break copyright rules But that of course was an example, I'd get my kneecaps smashed by some angry parent in that situation, and I wouldn't blame them. Both actions take advantage of vulnerable people…

Ok, I'm on my way to sell fake pokemon cards to small children since they have poor budgeting skill and can't tell the difference between an original and a fake card. That sounds like their own problem that they need to overcome themselves. I'm doing nothing wrong, am I?

They used FOMO at the time, yes. is the "We don't like exclusives" statement completely false now? That's pretty self explanatory when you look at the Deep Rift honestly.

Cool, if you're not defending it why saying that people complaining about it are spoiled then? Yes, FOMO tactics work especially good with that "extremely small" market Were the skins REALLY cluttering up the store? How many skins did they remove with this fantastic solution? 2 per character? Wow, so much clutter removed,…

If you have 10 minutes, watch this, it summarizes most of the points made in these topics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPir_8lyhoM&t=560s&ab_channel=MintSkull If you don't have 10 minutes, read this instead, it focuses on ONE particular problem of these tactics, but it's one of the most sensitive ones "I've been seeing…

I've been seeing a surprising number of posts defending this kind of practice, while not really grasping what is actually happening with it. FOMO causes an irrational shift in prioritization by directly manipulating the availability of a purchase. This shift is something that your average person is able to maintain a…

I already told why they're two completely different things. "Poor impulse control" is being taken advantage of to make more money, "Playing too much DBD" is not. You can start asking for a time limit on how much DBD you can play if you think that's an issue, but there was never one implemented, but as @RainehDaze says…

Understandable, it wasn't written in the first communication unless I'm mistaken and BHVR updated the news only after a couple days Totally admirable way of communicating such an important change, I know.

There is a key difference between a person spending too much time playing DBD and one buying skins because they have poor impulse control: one is being taken advantage of to gain more money, the other is not. Now if DBD were to implement a time limit in how much you can play, and ask you to pay to play more, that would be…

Do you get THIS mad when the McRib goes away? When a coupon for fabric softener expires? When the McRib goes away I'm a bit puzzled, but the McRib has a cost associated to it being offered 100% of the time: McDonalds has to store the meat it uses to make that bun, and if that meat is not used after a while it goes bad an…

From another thread, a very detailed explanation why these tactics are "questionable" at best: I've been seeing a surprising number of posts defending this kind of practice, while not really grasping what is actually happening with it. FOMO causes an irrational shift in prioritization by directly manipulating the…

"Eat if you're starving" is medical advice now, great. You touched the bottom of the barrel, no need to start digging.

Pretty sure Netflix pulled the Stranger Things license because they wanted to try their own gaming service, so that was not a "money" issue Amd BTW, it wouldn't surprise me if we get ST back in the future given how poorly the Netflix gaming services went

Yes it does, of course

Well, other people do and are rightfully complaining about it. Did you have a problem with Christmas cosmetics being available all year round? If you didn't, why are you so against having that version of the store instead of this new time limited thing? I didn't see anyone ever complaining about being able to buy a pajama…

No no, voting with my wallet is NOT enough, because me not buying a skin could be attributed to anything The fact that I'm complaining here on the forums expressing precisely WHY I'm not buying a cosmetics enforces my vote.

And why should we defend things that inconvenience us?

I wasn't the original poster, @Ryuhi was, but yeah I shared your sentiment so I started trying to let others understand why fighting against this is important Yes, it feels like fighting windmills for now but at least we're making noise about it on the forums

...what?

Ok, how would you describe that then? Something to be happy about? Something to cheer for? A positive thing? Elaborate please.

Sorry, your comparison doesn't really make sense. Alcoholics have an addiction, they are going to buy their "drug" no matter what. Coors offering a discount is aimed at those who usually wouldn't buy beer or they'd buy less of it. That situation is almost completely opposite to what's happening here: Time limited skins…

Yeah, and people saying "I don't care" should learn that if you don't care, you shouldn't be pushing against those who are saying "I don't like this" Because if you really don't care, you have no reason to do so.

Ok, let's try this: The wound is the fact that the store is going to have a reduced availability of choices: this is impairing my ability to see all my options when trying to decide which skin to buy. I was able to do that before, I will not be able to do that anymore. That's a negative effect, that's the wound. Are you…

From another thread, a very detailed explanation why these tactics are "questionable" at best: I've been seeing a surprising number of posts defending this kind of practice, while not really grasping what is actually happening with it. FOMO causes an irrational shift in prioritization by directly manipulating the…

Blighted Serum addon anyone?

"I've been seeing a surprising number of posts defending this kind of practice, while not really grasping what is actually happening with it. FOMO causes an irrational shift in prioritization by directly manipulating the availability of a purchase. This shift is something that your average person is able to maintain a…

Replace "shady" with "manipulative" Add to the mix the fact that these kind of tactics prey better on those with low impulse control and it's easy to see why people are not happy about bhvr joining the fomo train

Yeah, BHVR is trying all they have to artificially increase prices and sales And some people are defending these choices smh 🤦🏻

@RyuH I'll steal your answer to another thread for this one, please take it as a compliment. "I've been seeing a surprising number of posts defending this kind of practice, while not really grasping what is actually happening with it. FOMO causes an irrational shift in prioritization by directly manipulating the…

Yeah, you're most likely a troll. That's confirmed. No way you take things THAT literally.

Please do. I hope the "Bhvr can do whatever they want with their game" people will complain at that time, but you can't expect much from that kind of mentality

What do you mean? The new time-limited collection will be in the stores for more than 4 weeks, but it will not be available to buy with shards, when they said the exact opposite a couple of months ago

Noone's dying so it's fine, alright Let me go sell fake pokemon cards to children. Noone's dying for them and it's not illegal, why are people suddenly mad at me?

Time-limiting an item for the sole sake of it being time limited is not an artificial constraint, ok dude, idk what to tell you anymore. Keep defending anti-consumer tactics, I'm sure that'll work out fine for us, the consumers 👍🏻

1 Pretty sure you can't tell other people to "shut up about it" on the forums 2 Sorry if BHVR implemented an anti-consumer tactic for no good reason and the consumers are complaining

Cosmetic purchasing becomes anti-consumer when you attach FOMO tactics to it. Using an artificial constraint to artificially increase the price or the sales of a digital good is considered anti-consumer. Noone was complaining when christmas skins were sold all year round for auric cells only. Stop saying that "people only…

Casinos in certain cases, yes Respectable bars BAN alcoholics from their places to protect them and their clientele. Think about that.

Don't worry, I'll one-up you: At least next year we'll be able to buy event skins that were already available with shards. Now watch BHVR pull the rug under my feet on this one

DBD is a paid game. Every new DLC is a priced item. Most of the skins are priced. You have the option to buy battle pass tiers. BHVR has ways of gaining money without using anti-consumer tactics. We are asking they DON'T USE ANTI-CONSUMER TACTICS SUCH AS THESE ONES.

Lol, take a look at Mime Feng and tell me that that skin screams HALLOWEEN Or look at any "winter" skin that is simply a pajama, in some cases a pair of shorts and a t-shirt and tell me that has any right of being tied to an event

What's next? Blight skins becoming limited? Easter? Lunar New Year? That's a given at this point. What I'm assuming is that when seasonal skins will come back next year, they'll be available only for Auric Cells. Yes, even skins that you are able to buy today for shards. God I hope I'm wrong, but BHVR is more apt at…

October/Early November: Halloween event Late November/December: Christmas event December/January: Winter event February/March: Chinese New Year event April/May: Easter June/July: Anniversary event August/September: Summer Oh yeah baby, love my all year round time limited skins tied to "events" that will never go on sale

The old Christmas skins for example are still available (not that I want to encourage the Devs to change that), so if players want to buy Christmas stuff in June this time limited collection will not stop them

Unless you confirm that when they return they'll be available for shards again, we're going to assume the worst. Because you showed us that that's what you're gonna do. So please, either confirm that they'll be available for shards, or start trying to convince the higher ups to make them available for shards next year if…

Not going to spend 1 more cent on DBD until they pull the brake on this 😊

Ehy oh look who's here again! Not BHVR backtracking on the "Non licensed cosmetics that are in the store for more than 4 weeks will be available with shards" Eeeeh, company policy change and that's fine right? Even if it's only what, a few months ago?

Dude WE are the consumers. Anti-consumers tactics HURT us Taking away something that was previously available IS an anti-consumer tactic. Why on earth would you defend that, if you're not gaining anything out of it?