TheForgotten

This was your extravagant metaphor. Pretty piss poor I'd say. It's a terrible metaphor regardless of how you spin it. With your aura fix nothing changes. Swf groups don't run aura perks. They only rely on call outs. Your idea fixed nothing.

Your metaphor didn't even match for 50%. It was half baked at best. Redistribute the kids that can kick relates to swf how? Oh, that's right, it doesn't. You could make auras invisible all you like. They have mics, stupid. There are perks for slowing down such activities. How does the game know who is in the swf if you…

It is only this competitive because of swf.

And how sweaty and skilled is your swf group? I'm guessing not very.

Well, for starters, you insulted me first. So get over it, cupcake. Secondly. my title doesn't specify what I want it removed from but if you can read ( I know you can't ) you'd see I specified in my OP where I would've liked it removed from. Are you delusional? I've been like broken record on repeat. You told me I was…

And I shouldn't be forced to play with said folks. Take the swf to private matches.

I didn't say every game. I said regularly. Learn to read. Customs game 1v1 really won't tell you squat. I assume you're also on a PC. I'm on console. You just sound like another bully. You probably enjoy running swf and bullying people. Regardless, there should be an option for players to only play against solo queue…

Or the matchmaking is trash. Or swf groups as a whole lie about just being casual. Or I'm so good at the game that matchmaking only puts me with the most sweaty groups possible. I have yet to see a swf who isn't there to win. Maybe I'm just trash (which I doubt). Maybe you're so bad at the game that you rarely see them? I…

You're stupid asf. I don't want it removed. I want it exclusively for private lobbies. It's not about the toxicity players in an swf (it just adds insult to injury). It's about how unbalanced it is for the game.

And this one should not. I just need to get good? You do realize that the devs are trying to figure out how to nerf the effectiveness of swf, right? They know it's unbalanced and you just sound like another sweaty swf Jack*** who likes to bully killers with your group.

Killers only camp out of desperation because they're getting bodied regularly by swf try hard groups. So it becomes a regular strat that the employ regularly because you can't know for sure if you're against a swf group. All these problems would be fixed if swf wasn't allowed in public matches.

I do play solo queue. I really think solo queue would greatly benefit from swf being moved to private matches only. It would force solo queue players to learn to play as a team if they wanted to win or get points. You also wouldn't be getting potato teammates as often either because there would be a larger pool of good…

I never said I took my opinion from YouTubers. I said many of them share the same opinion. Swf is broken in this game. It shouldn't be allowed in public matchmaking where you have to earn points. I imagine the swf groups you're beating aren't really sweaty or playing to win. If they were then you'd feel my pain and the…

Are you stupid? It's not about the toxicity of swf. It's that it's impossible to win against a well coordinated swf group. That opinion is shared by many YouTubers I watch. Otz being the first I ever heard say it. I can deal with toxicity. I like learning the game and getting better at it. Doesn't change the fact that you…

I'd rather them kick the teeth in on a volunteer than have it forced on me. It's not hard to find 4 other people and I'm sure there would be a sweat killer on their friend list who would relish the challenge.

I'm just saying that I've seen killers down people and just stand on their bodies. It happens. Slugging happens. Yeah you could counter it by breaking the palllet. Lots of mechanics in this game are designed to be countered. That 2 seconds it takes to break the pallet can give your team that last sliver of time needed to…

"Get gud" lol classic response of a toxic swf turd. It has nothing to do with thinking I'm "entitled" (I hope you stretched before that reach) it has everything to do with game balance. Every single swf I've ever seen has been a "deathsquad". I said it needs to be removed from public matches. There is no way to nerf an swf…

Obviously you've never seen a whole team slugged. It happens. A lot. I'd say that they should have to crawl out from under it to get back up but you could use it to 99 your unbreakable and such.

I said it needs to be removed from PUBLIC matches. Because it does.

It absolutely needs to be removed from public matches. If you're here to just screw around with friends then you shouldn't have a problem with private lobbies. It wouldn't kill the game. It would kill the large amounts of toxicity in the game though. It would also buff solo queues by making a larger pool of competent…

They do that already. So what's your point? It's a good idea for a game mechanic and I'm sure survivors would find creative uses for it.

And your response is exactly what's wrong with this community. I shouldn't have to adopt a more toxic play style just to be competitive. I run mad grit and lightborn if I see 2 or more flashlights. If people want to be toxic when they play, then bully for them. However, I shouldn't be forced to play with them and also be…

It's "big mean" but I see it all the time though. You forgot to add DS to that lump of toxicity lol. That seconds gives your team precious time to make a flashlight save or forces trapper to break a well trapped pallet so he can hook you. It just makes sense for that to be a mechanic.

How is it pointless? It would force the killer to break the pallet to pick you up. It's a good idea. Should've been a default game mechanic.

Only if they're a potato. I understood it perfectly. It makes perfect sense to me. It sounds like a great idea and like it would actually make legion viable to play.

Save your breath dude. They don't give flying f***.

How about no and instead we just let this horrible game die? Sounds good to me. Let it die.

Or you could just not be toxic. That would be a really cool immersion game mode.

You don't say? I never would've guessed. Record it. Report it. Block. Not that hard.

It was definately for my community and dev bit but fair point. The rest of what I said was exactly the same except I added more constructive feedback on how to change it. Kinda sounds like you are the type to troll and bully killers. Why not split it? You could make the "hardcore" mode even more intense. Make it so there…

All I want is the queue punishment to go away. It makes me not want to play at all. I either stay in a toxic match and have no fun or I DC and can't play anyway. What's the point? If they don't want new players to stick around then this is how you do it.

Which is why I'm saying there shouldn't be a queue penalty for a DC. At least not for killers.

I'm not downplaying the issue. It's a significant issue. I'm just saying, till it's fixed, don't take the cheap win.

Which is why I'm saying that there should be no queue penalty on a DC. At least for killer.

Where did I say "just ignore it"? Oh, that's right, I didn't. I said "so don't take the cheap win".

Explain how it's negative for survivors when a killer DCs? I just don't like the queue ban on a dc. If I'm getting bullied by some red rank swf try hards then why would I waste my time on the trial if I'm not having fun or getting points anyway? I do agree that swf should be a separate lobby choice. I'm all for the swf…

So don't take the cheap win? Put them in dying state. Pick them up. Walk them out. Let the wiggle free. It's not hard.

All I read was "killers got buffed because SWF is OP". I'm glad you're in agreement.

Swf should only be allowed in custom games.

Nothing will stop a killer from tunneling if they really want to. Not even these suggested ds changes. What I suggested, if done well enough, makes the attempted tunnel just not worth the time wasted. These ds changes won't do anything agaisnt a killer who knows to slug after they hook. This will only effect greedy…

Try playing killer if you're bored sitting on gens all day. I do agree that a game mode with 2 killers would be fun. Slightly bigger map and bump the survivors to 6 as well.

Sounds like an entitled survivor main. Maybe you should get friends to play with so they can rotate and body block for you. If you do have friends then they need to learn to play. Your change will only effect new killers. Experienced ones will still just slug you and move on. Only way I could see this being acceptable is…

Dumbest thing I've ever heard.

I get lag as the killer all the time. I've found that it's usually someone in the lobby with a poor connection because they're in a different country. It can be really frustrating.

Sounds like your opinion is coming from an entitled survivor main. The game is already heavy handed in your favor.

I honestly just hate this game now. The MMR was being changed when I started and this "fix" has only made it worse. I get matched against all red ranks every game. I'm only a rank 10 killer. I straight up DCed from my last match because they finished 4 gens in under 3 minutes. I didn't even have one hook yet and had only…

I'm guessing you're in the group of incredibly toxic dbags that litter this game. Good for you. You're part of the problem.

Like I care? They've had 4 years to fix this hot garbage. It really just seems like they don't give a flying (BAD WORD) and just want to punish new players. Obviously there are enough reds on both sides if I keep getting them regardless of which side I play. They should only be paired with each other. Ever. If you're rank…