undeadmauler

Every killer has a weakness, the only one who didnt was nurse that's why it was un balanced. I love nurse playing as and against but I can see she needed the change. None the less it was warranted. And more than likely she will be brought back in line with old her or close to old her in future patches.

When a killer excels at everything they need to be weak at somthing, her map mobility is the weakness now.

All I'm seeing is you making every excuse in the book to not adapt and learn because you got to attached to, blink blink blink hit blink down. Okay now I can do this over and over with no repercussion, you are crying cause you have to actually think about when and how to use your blink like every other killer. Every killer…

Strange cause nurse no addons and no perks still dominated rank one. She needed the nerf because she had map pressure, mobility, speed, ignoring terrain, and little to no cooldown on her ability to negate everything anyone can do. 2 blink nurse had more mobility and utility than billy does.

You can break los from legion. Your point? Oh wait nurse can go through walls weird.

She had the same amount of counterplay legion had, try and juke. Guess what legion was gutted, nurse got a slap and now she is still top tier, you arnt punished for using your ability, you still can down but instead of blink hit 2sec fatigue blink hit. It's not blink hit 2 sec fatigue 2 sec cd blink hit.

But she is balanced now and better for the game.. same argument legions players suffered and are still reaching out for help about.

Legion cosmetics and overall game stability changes

Hurr durr I didnt want to do bones and now fane is dying. Dude just do totems and noed is literally useless like holy cow can people be any more entitled.

They changed legion to be this way they made him an m1 killer to satiate the people

Thankyou for taking Time out of your day to respond, honestly the only big change that I'll ask for is either vault speed increase or receding the nerf on the cd addons. But even for those who havnt said so thankyou for all yall do.

Read the whole discussion, my point is that they're equal in the fact that they're end game perks and have a power curve as such. The only difference one can be completely negated by taking time to do so. They're is literally no point in trying to nerf noed anymore than there is trying to nerf adrenaline because they're…

What you're seeing are whiffs due to 360's and aimassist. Short lunges counter this.

If I kill 3 of you and close the hatch you get rewarded for doing nothing. They're both end game perks they literally have the same requirement to active but one can be stopped by doing bones.

Auto ended lunges are caused by not going through the whole animation without letting go of the attack. You can cancel the animation early and get a shorter lunge by just tapping, the biggest counter to big spins is getting on them waiting for the spin then short lunge, nlanything else is a greedy swing and if you miss…

Spinning frenzy isnt hard on either, it's just movement the biggest cause of misses is either lag or someone getting greedy

Console vs pc is a different beast, legion is just a m1 killer now, using their power to "slow the game down" requires the survivors to be absolute potato's

Not every killer runs noed, if your gonna talk ifs and buts then bring detectives hunch, or small game. You have the tools but people dknt want to change their playstyle to do it. Also ds got changed but so did enduring. Ds wasn't an issue comparing noed to adrenaline would make more sense but the only counter to…

Old ds was fine because you could just dribble, and your right you cant, but not every killer brings noed. If you want to complain about ifs and buts then assume every killer has noed and bring a map or detectives hunch. You have the tools to counter this almost useless perk but people dont want to give up their playstyle…

Bring a map, with the red twine and you'll know if you've covered the map once where and if any totems are left. People have the tools, I mainly solo que as survivor and if noed pops I dont get butthurt cause it was preventable.

Hurr durr I didnt do the totems like a smart player hurt durr nerf a perk that literally can be removed with 70 seconds of time spent doing totems grrr killers op. Also I made a mistake and got caught better have 3 second chance perks hurt durr. Dude noed is balanced just like the survivor perks are everything is fine and…

Personally as I survivor I wouldn't enjoy being punished even further for a rando getting hooked. It would feel like I'm being punished for literally 0 reason all because the power role did their job so I have to deal with extra bs rather than just already given map pressure and having to save them. This change would be…

No it totally doesnt give you more snow ball at all by making it so you have built in PTGW and ruin /s. Dude you're idea is quite literally "give killers 2 free perk slots for doing nothing"

Or maybe you didnt apply pressure right and they powered through gens cause you were making small misplays that added up, giving another snowball power buff is just lazy imagine if you said the same thing for survivors giving them free power for doing their objective. The community would turn on its head.

The fact killers already gain pressure and map control from one hook is the reward for not camping. You gain more pressure and snowball this is literally an easier step to snowballing

You're not seeing the point, this would be a huge power curve for no trade off. You camp cool free kill, dont camp cool free perk slots. There is no trade off for the play you're just getting rewarded either way.

This change is literally a win/lose. Killers will get a massive buff and survivors who will already be pressured to save and will get nerfed and forced into a loss with just one hook. Itll make ruin obselite and it's just another huge power curve for no reason other than people arnt using the counterplays given to them.…

Run kindred and boom there ya go information for everyone

That makes no sense. You get rewarded already by map pressure and control of the game if you camp you only get rewarded when people are too altruistic. You're suggestions are just handholding for bad plays

Another reward for not camping thread even tho camping is a viable strategy and is countered by doing gens or bt or dstirke how strange

Because if people are standing damn near next to each other you wknt get more than one hit. Legion has 0 map pressure.

As a man I want shirtless David, you see them hunks mmmm

They used to be super fun and super weak. Now their midtier at best and very boring. Play wraith for more fun. Since it's a better version of current legion

I'm always gonna miss old legion with their noticable speed and great cd addons. I wish the devs just fixed the exploit on them but oh well, I've made it back to r1 as legion and will continue to do so till they're in a better spot haha

As a legion main as well I can agree this works but it Aires on the boring side of gameplay, you're kinda forced to run an even more limited pool of perks to be remotely viable and even then it's sad:/ but this should help new players to legion :D

Awesome! Thanks for the update!

At the moment the pallet stun out of cloak isnt affected by enduring, you still suffer the full duration of the stun o.o but I agree this would feel more like a nerf XD

They said they arnt going to touch legion for a while. I'm sad as a legion main. I just hope something happens even a small buff to anything would be better than nothing as it is now.

Become last survivor, instead of hatch searching sit at one gate with wake up. Enjoy free escape as killer closes hatch.

It went from 5.6mps to 5mps. Its literally cut down to bloodlust 1.2 instead of a sprint.

Because every braindead survivor and "killer main" said new legion is good. But they're a boring m1 killer who is easier to loop than freddy.

This. All of this. But guys!!!! YoU hAvE tO gIvE nEw LeGiOn A cHaNcE it's Better tHeY aRe StRoNgEr.... seriously tho I hate this bland ass m1 rework.

Even tho I dislike the changes to legion, I'mstill maimingthem and have found that bbq, 3rdseal, Franklin's, and discordance is a great slug/game slow build. Paired with duration addons cause they're the only useful ones now with allthe nerfs.

Giving props to a killer (as surv) Grant's BP. Giving props to surv(as surv) maybe just an item chance in bloodweb. Giving to surv(as killer) Grant's bp

@Peanits @not_Queen i believe the addon is bugged to not show the heartbeats of those in your "mapwide TR" after you land a first hit.

actually killer main, trapper main then old legion main(didnt exploit or cheese) and now new wraith and trapper main. 4headfengmin i know what im talking about when it comes to bs cheap lowskipp gap high skill cap killers aka billy/nurse

Any w+m1 killer will do well. Legion isnt fun anymore we are better off playing wraith with 10x better efficiency. That'sthe issue.

Billy and nurse have 0 downsides and are arguably the easiest to play, I havnt lost a game as nurse and only played her 4 times, all in rank 1. They need balance but because people intentionally potato when it comes to showing "how much skill you need to play them" bs they're too easy with so little counter play especially…

With the recent iteration of all of legions nerfs, wouldn't one ot tel ofthe changes fix them as a killer? Why was every change compiled on and reducingthem to another idenityless m1 killer?

Nah man these are 100% we all are askingfor these changes if you check all forums /s