Which killer do you think is underrated/overrated and why?

He can m1 and see all survivors locations with 125% speed and ignores their defenses, which makes it very difficult for survivors to play around so this applies a lot of pressure. After you commit on 1 survivor, the others have to waste time mending. Clown's power can easily be played around by dropping the pallet early or moving out of the way before it lands. Doctor's power can simply be ignored in a chase since it severely hinders his movement speed when charging his shock which allows survivors to loop him again and again so this punishes him instead. In conclusion, both Clown and Doctor have weak map pressure and chase potential compared to Legion.

I never claimed Legion is a good killer. Me and the others are saying he's underrated, there's a difference. Your main argument is that Legion is the worst killer because of his chase potential but at least you get a free m1. Doctor and Clown however, can hardly do anything in chases and pressure gens even against good survivors.

I'll probably get grilled for these:

Overrated- since her nerf, it has to be Nurse. The prevailing talking point still tends to be "Well, if you're good with her, there's nothing survivors will be able to do." Do we not think that if that were true, we'd actually be seeing people play Nurse? Do we think that there were just that few good Nurse players, or that we've moved the goalposts so ridiculously far in terms of what it means to be a good Nurse? Her map pressure is gone, and the cooldown means she now relies on a lot of guesswork if LOS is lost.

Underrated- After only playing Hag this week, and losing 2 games in the last three days combined, it has to be Hag. I used to think she was overrated because I wasn't territorial enough. She also requires very specific trap placements at many tiles to get hits i.e. can't ever be a straight shot from a window or pallet. The reason she gets underrated is because many aren't willing to play in her in her most powerful way. Get a hook, pick three or 4 gens around it, and don't leave. If you get a basement hook at any point, it shouldn't be possible for that person to get out without a hook trade at least.

Underrated: Demogorgon and Plague

Overrated: Myers

I find Billy and Ghostface to be overrated and I think LF and Plague are underrated.

Billy and Ghostface are really overrated.

Many people act like Billy can't be looped like any other killer and that he's easy to use against good survivors when he's really difficult where you need to know how to curve your chainsaw correctly around tight corners to get a down on a survivor or else you can throw the entire game by messing up too many times.

Ghostface, I mean... some people tell me he's top 5 with a cheesy anti-heal build that uses only half of his power and relies on add-ons to function. Pretty overrated when I can think of 5 other killers that can use the same type of build way more effectively while still using all of their power.

For underrated killers, Hag, Leatherface, Plague, and Demo. A lot of killers, I know.

Hag I very rarely see, a good one even more rare, but with the amount of tricks a Hag has to shut down chases immediately and cut off some of the strongest loops in the game, that's very powerful, on top of how much pressure she can have in a confined area of the map where she's literally everywhere at all times due to her traps.

Leatherface many think is the worst killer in the game; I don't think so when Legion, Clown, and others exist. Leatherface, specifically Play With your Food Leatherface, is quite powerful to me due to how often it catches people off guard that a Leatherface is charging at them faster than normal and now they can't make a pallet they normally thought they would, leading them to getting downed. Let's not forget Leatherface is one of the best at capitalizing on basement hooks and survivors being close together in one area where everyone can get downed.

Plague I feel like is a strictly better version of Legion and similar to Myers in how she can down anyone at any moment with a single M1 hit and snowball extremely fast due to the instant down potential. Let's not forget she counters Iron Will and immersed survivors because they're loud from coughing and puking, as well as easily visible from the green aura. Healing perks and med-kits are also countered and cleansing changes you from a T3 Myers to an upgraded Huntress that can down an entire team quickly.

Demo I'm not sure why many think is bad. Once he sets up his portals, he can know where survivors are and teleport around the map constantly, applying massive map pressure and stopping people from doing gens. His lunge is also very strong at completely shutting down loops survivors would otherwise get on any other M1 killer and can work like Huntress hatchets at a certain distance where survivors are so concerned about dodging the lunge they end up losing distance and are put into a losing condition no matter what.

That's just my opinion, though.

@Derp

You will never get more then 2 frenzy stabs, only if you are lucky, the "information" to see where the survivors are doesnt help you in any way, and the free hit is not a chase shorten because if you have a brain as survivor you can easily loop legion for ages.

Maybe you always get for some reason bad survivors but if you ever played against good survivors then you will see what I mean, I have a waaaay easier time killing ppl as clown or doc and in the other hand, I am more scared to loop a good doc or clown than a Legion. Me and my friends in swf we always play around with a legion and make fun with him (not of him, we dont bully ppl) but we never take a game srsly against legion because he has no threat at all compared to a doc or clown. Obviously it is your opinion but what you are saying here is clearly a lack of knowledge because if Legion would be THAT great with the "pressure" what he has then he wouldnt be so trash and more ppl would play them.

You will never get a good usage to frenzy, the "free m1" what you call is even a drawback because without addons you lose more distance because of the fatigue than doing a normal hit. The time the survivors mend is just a stall without any pressure, in that 10 sec mend you are trying to run around and stab other survivors, that is not any effective time you gain, it is just the time you need to spread your frenzy and that stalls the game for no reason at all.

Even 3 gen doc can do that better, and beeing injured is not a threat at all, especially when the killer has no power. Why do you heal against a nurse, spirit, ghostface etc? Because they can kill in you seconds, why should you heal against a legion? You dont need too, when I play as legion good survivors just dont heal and do gens and that is a really effeciant tactic since I still have a hard time catching well looping survivors. Without any power shorten loops to down survivors is clearly a big disentvantage. Again I am talking about if you play against good survivors, not boosted survivors.

If you still think legion is better then sorry you just need to play more this game^^ I dont want to be rude but as you can see here, I tried to explain to you and gave you a ton of reasons why legion is defenatly worse then clown and doc. If you still think it is not then it is your choice and you are not understanding or not reading what I wrote.

Why would urban evasion do anything against a phasing spirit, when it just makes you walking speed. You couldve walked and had the same effect.

Why would I care anout walking speed when I’m trying to play stealthy? You do realize you don’t have to run away from the killer to lose them right?

I often times play stealthy, but you can still play stealthy by walking around a tree just as good as urbaning around it.The only times urban really shines in those cases is when trying to use waist high objects as cover.

Getting multiple frenzy stabs depends on the build, map, mindgame, and how coordinated the survivors are. Knowing where survivors are means you can go over to them and make them stop what they're doing so it is helpful information nonetheless. Downing a survivor in 1 hit is always better than having to m1 twice. Just because you have a hard time mindgaming good survivors doesn't mean it's pointless. I can easily loop a Clown and Doctor because their powers are so easy to play around and they still have to m1 me twice.

If you have a much better time playing Clown and Doctor compared to Legion then that doesn't necessarily mean they're better overall. There are a lot of factors that goes into it like I mentioned in the beginning. When I said he had good pressure, I wasn't trying to say he's a good killer overall, but if you compare his pressure and stall potential to Doctor and Clown, it's way better.

"You never get good usage out of Frenzy." I'd say the 4 second fatigue is worth it since it's way better to get a free m1 hit to multiple survivors compared to just being a normal m1 killer. Even then, survivors gaining distance from a normal attack is almost the same as a 4 second fatigue because of the attack cooldown and the speed boost the survivor gets after so it isn't as bad as you say it is. Without addons, mending is 15 seconds so lets get that straight. Preventing survivors from working on gens is always a good thing, no matter what the situation is.

3 gen Doc isn't better than a well optimized Legion, lets be real here. The survivors can easily play around it by being coordinated and working on gens together while the others work on another anytime the Doc goes away. Since he's just an m1 killer, all he can do is injure them at best unless a survivor is being a potato and screws up. Once again, healing against Legion depends on the situation, just like any other killer. If survivors are far ahead with gens then it's better to heal, and if there's still a ton of gens left, then it's better to gen rush. Using Feral Frenzy on a healthy survivor still wastes a bit of time compared to just downing an injured survivor in 1 hit.

I already put in a lot of hours into this game so I don't need to play more to prove my point tyvm. Even with your explanation I still disagree with you, not because I don't understand what you're saying, but simply because you underestimate Legion's potential.

Same. Hag is so much fun.

I think Plag. No one plays her (well, recently I've seen her more often - can't tell if I got into the right ranks, it's Daily Rituals, or people have always played her). I don't even think she's that bad. She either has a one hit down or a cool power. Some can even make builds to force her corrupt plague and I think that's really fun. Most fun I have and most thinking I gotta make going against some killers are Corrupt Plague, Billy, and Huntress. The best part of this game is thinking.

Pig on both sides.

Players that don't play her tend to underestimate her and call her straight up useless and trash while the ones who do play her tend to overestimate her.

Don't get me wrong she's a solid M1 killer and I love her but she's far from being either weak or stupidly strong.