Should survivors have more stuff to work with in a chase?

I feel like crows are a big helper when a survivor is trying to break line of sight and hide behind a rock, so I don't see a problem in having other kind of animals that could find a purpose in chases. Or what if survivors could fall if they somehow stepped on a rock/thing. I know my suggestions are kinda off-topic, but maybe survivors could find a way to play around these mechanics...

I know he has drawbacks. But i feel like his chase is just so oppressive that it is anti-fun and uninteractive. It's kind of like Spirit or Freddy. When you get into a chase with them, YOU KNOW you will die in a couple seconds and not have much say in that unless the killer massively ######### up. It's just really unfun to play against. Whereas other killers give you a lot more to work with and there is a give-and-take with the mistakes made on both sides.

Maybe you feel this way. But I feel like PH is a very anti-fun, non-interactive killer when it comes to chases. The biggest counterplay he has is gen-rushing because of his chase power. It's the same with Spirit or Freddy. If they see you/find you, you will be dead quickly. The only time you won't is when the killer sucks and messes up. Otherwise, there is not much you can do. But yes, there is still things you CAN do...but it just always feels like a gamble that is heavily favored towards the killer.

I'm still relatively new, but I find accurately landing shots on survivors who aren't animation-locked is quite difficult, there's a LOT of telegraphing in his M2, and the aiming is really slow. Plus you can still dodge after the attack has gone off. On top of that, it only "lands" on what appears to be the first frame or maybe first few frames when each segment of the attack first appears, so you can immediately step into it after it has been activated without reprisal.

Of course, I can also hit people through walls on occasion if I predict their movement and they're not expecting it (or if I'm patrolling gens and one's behind a wall and has some cocky survivors) so I'm not exactly complaining. I'm still too new to accurately determine his actual power compared to other killers in general, though.

Just dropping in ideas lol. I came up with it not more than 5 minutes ago. All we need to do is drop in ideas and it might be a spark to the devs.

Possible. I've gone against a lot of Pyramid heads and I usually drop jungle gym pallets and God pallets early to lock them in and gain massive distance. There is no such thing as wasting pallets. It all comes down to how well you make it count.

But then counterplay against deathslinger is a different issue. He's tougher and much more annoying to counterplay.

That's fair. I personally would like more consumable items in the map that you can't bring with you, but can pick up and use separately from your "real" item. Maybe a rock you can chuck as a distraction (I think this is a perk or something?) or climb-able ladders? It's hard, because each new thing has the potential to just annoy killers more, while the killer doesn't really benefit. I think more new interactions in the map should require some actual work from survivors. So maybe rather than it just being a thing you hit in a chase, maybe the survivor has to waste time setting up a trap ahead of time, which cuts into objective time and still requires you to lead the killer to it and the killer to actually fall for it.

I would absolutely like more map interactions added, but always with counterplay so it's fun for both sides, and makes the game more strategically enjoyable, rather than just an easy to use stun or other annoyance.

To be honest, and maybe this is getting off-topic again, I'd also appreciate more goals in the early game. One potentially being instead of starting with your item in your hand, maybe it spawned in a locker at a random point in the map. It would be generally pretty far away from you, but also highlighted white so you always knew how to get it. If you never take it out of the locker, you don't lose it, so it's another part of risk-reward. If you do take it out, you can't put it back, so you either escape with it or lose it. Maybe only have keys spawn with you so the killer knows ahead of time? I dunno.

I would rather have a second objective for survivors to spice up the game than something new for chases which would waste even more of killers time so survivors can rush the gens that would just make thing worse rather than better.

Absolutely not. Watch a good runner with Windows of Opp and you will witness greatness.

"You don't have to hve Windows of Opportunity in order to be a good runner lol."

I did not say that. But if you see a good runner with it, youll know the difference. Most runners do not utilize everything they could, asking for more shows theyve never encountered what I am referring to.

Buckets of paint to throw at the killer, bags of marbles you can throw down to make the killer slip under certain conditions, maybe some kind of exposed wiring you can turn on to zap the killer. etc.

I wouldn't mind more interactables if this meant less pallets. You'd have the same amount of tools, just different types.

Then bring back Space Billy, and Rocket Hag!

i was so sad when these got patched out, even if I do understand why.

Well, you can't exactly slide over a door... 😛

I was just thinking of it being a nice thematic addition, if not exactly useful or better than anything else, just something neat!

good point, they have introduced destructable doors so maybe in the future.

That's actually really cool, I'd want that added to the game.

Running around in circles and then throwing a wooden pallet down does seem kind of simplistic, and survivors call it boring when a killer ignores this pattern. I wish there were a little more acton game style interaction available, or at least horror sequences that can actually scare you. It feels weird to call this a horror game. It's like an action chase game with only one action available. It's still fun, though.

You can't have a online game become scary. Everything scary kinda fade out once you play it for more than 20 hours.

We could have things to slide under, kinda like reverse windows. I know this was suggested for ages and during the old streams you guys just said "maybe".