Making David King Homosexual

@Yung_Slug Your point makes sense and is very realistic but I also feel like you've massively overplayed how many people would be outraged by a gay character being added to dbd. If there are people who hate a gay character being in dbd well they aren't really welcome. However you mention different cultures and regions around the world having different perspectives on sexuality.

Recently in Russia they censured all the gay connotations in the Elton John movie in cinema. I feel like if a big deal was made about the next Survivor being gay then dbd could be pulled from stores in whatever country. Probably just that chapter in specific. That is the only issue here.

You could just make another version of the gay Survivor for the regions which still frown upon homosexuality where the lore is censored to not mention anything about relationships and is assumed of as straight. It's just the hard reality that you have to acknowledge if you have a global audience.

I think it wouldn't be advised to reveal the gay Survivor as part of a chapter called "The extremely gay jungle" or something like that. Just pop it in the bio and let people go crazy about it. It doesn't mean they would come in a flower outfit or a rainbow Cape or anything. Just a little line which you can interpret as meaning that they're gay. Nothing stonewall certain because you'll be able to tell anyway.

Actually that first part isnt quite true. While it’s true most characters lore don’t mention sexuality there are confirmed straight characters. You have all the licensed characters which are all straight. Ash’s lore mentions it quite a lot in fact. Also the nurses lore mentions that she had a husband named Andrew before she went crazy.

I don’t think people are asking for a survivor to be waving rainbow flags and doing a death-drop, but something as simple as mentioning a their partner would suffice. Plus the Archives are right around the corner anyways, so we’re going to be getting more lore about all the characters.

Ok back on topic.

I reread the original post and I think many of us are missing the point as to what he says.

"I know one person's request might not be heard, but I know there are alot of LGBT people who play this game, and looking at other online games who have had LGBT characters written into the law such as overwatch. It would mean the world to us if we could just have one character who we can say "this game shows us pride, respect and love.""

It doesn't necessarily mean "let's make a character gay" but more "can we see some sort of appreciation towards people of various walks of life, backgrounds and sexualities etc from some characters"

Personally if it talked more in depth about feelings and emotions and stuff like that in some characters lores then it makes them feel more human and relatable.

I think having a character to relate to can make you really enjoy the game much more. It doesn't mean it has to be sexuality that you have in common. Like for example I used to do that thing where I hold my hand up Infront of my mouth in shyness just like Dwight does. I feel like I have a lot of similarities to Dwight and it's really engaging thinking about that.

Same can be said if you have anything else in common with someone in dbd.

First of all if you are going to take something I said out of context then at least let me clarify before going off on a tangent. Also keep it relevant to the original point which was made.

You're in a completely different thread from the one where you referenced something that I said and you took out of context and then yapping on about it. I suggest not arguing in this thread because it's already been heated here before and if you continue this thread will be closed.

I personally think if a new Survivor was released and in the bio it had a line about sexuality then it would be a nice touch. Every Survivor follows a theme we've got the gen repair nerd, runner girl, healing expert and the survivalist. We have a methhead, a TV show host, a reserved rocker guy, a musician maybe a Survivor who just loves and respects is near.

I think a Survivor with the theme of love and respect to everyone and everything is interesting and in no way at all infringing upon controversy.

It doesn't have to state specifically the actual sexuality and use it as a label.

It might sound a little dumb of an idea but there's definitely a gap for a 'lover' Survivor in dbd. Coming with perks which help unify teammates or something like that.

Just think how can respect to fellow players be possible in the game. Perhaps a new offering which benefits everyone. Maybe even just removing pointing, teabagging and other toxic stuff during chase. A base level of respect.

I agree with you, I think you can take and admire parts of David kings character such as his protective nature, his all or nothing approach and his determination to keep wanting to try and try (from his perks).

I feel like there will be an original Survivor who will more than likely just happen to have a mention or hint about their sexuality. Just a gut reaction. I mean they are running out of possible options which make survivors different from each other.

No...You do know that this thread had a warning that it was going to be closed if things didn't get back on topic or we weren't being respectful towards eachother.

This separate discussion we're having, let's keep it in the other thread. Also stop attacking anything I say it's getting annoying.

I think dbd does a really good job at representing as many backgrounds as it can already. Maybe they can make future Survivors with a bigger gap for speculation about certain things. Maybe they can go into too much detail and it restricts the imagination.

Example Dwight has a pizza shirt, without his pizza themed cosmetics we wouldn't associate him with pizza 🍕. He wouldn't be pizzaboy. I think having cosmetics in particular tell a little bit about the character that it's for is a neat little idea.

The label of 'the gay Survivor' can be damaging which is why it's important to establish the core of the character then maybe make add the part about being gay in later. It can be complicated and it comes from player perception.

Example Say the next Survivor is a guy called Ben and he's theme is clumsyness. His character can be formed and people can think of him for what is says in his bio and what lore is mentioned in the perks. Leaving subtle hints and suggestions about his sexuality would be a good way to allow for interpretation and not give him a label.

Heck yeah, OP, I'm with you! David King belongs to the LGBTs now and there's nothing you haters can do about it! *rubs my super gay hands all over David*

Nothing odd here, just new to the forums and recently made an account about a month ago. Haven't used it much besides upvoting in threads.

Again, I don't think it's relevant nor necessary within the context of the game.

You know why survivors don't have passive abilities? Because the devs said they wanted people to pick the one that resonates most with themselves.

For every person that feels more connected to David by adding "also he's gay" to his lore, there's going to be someone who feels less connected.

If it's never stated one way or the other, then great, he's gay to you and it makes you happy and he's straight to some other person and it makes them happy.

You shouldn't need a line in the lore to blatantly say something like that the same way straight people aren't rallying to have it stated that a specific character is straight to feel connected to them.

Why not? What a survivors job is dosnt matter to you, the backstories are just text, if it gives some representation then whats the harm?

I get the arguments against it, but if you have not grown up lgbt its hard to understand what having every hero/culture figure/character be straight by default felt like.

For the record, just based on the quotes you sent, I don't think he was contradicting himself at all. It was pretty clear to me that what he cares about is not whether the characters are gay, but why the designers made that choice.

Also heated political debate has been going on around homosexuality, gay rights, gay representation, etc. for literal decades, so bringing "a certain someone" into this is not only against forum rules but also irrelevant - both because of what I just mentioned, and because America is not the entire world and not everyone's opinions are influenced by the political climate in the US.

Devs allready confirmed there is a LGBT character in game, they still haven't confirmed who tho, but yea their sexuallity should only be revealed if it's really important, not something that just show up like "hey this character is gay"

I don't see why people have a problem with a simple suggestion. I think the original post was a nice idea which explained how it was a bit of a stretch but still I don't know why people are being so rude about it.

Some of you are making it out as if talking about a characters backstory isn't relevant at all.

Can we keep sexuality out of the game please?

If you want your character to be gay, it is. Its fine. Its your own thing.

I dont need sexuality in everything I do.

Stop putting boobs in my milkshakes and dingdongs in my yard.

"What does it add to the story" and "What does it add to the character" Why does it need to add anything? People are just gay in real life, they don't need a reason to justify their sexuality. And for "does it change the character", if David being gay doesn't change his character, then why does it matter to so many people if he is? It has nothing to do with gameplay so why can't gay people have just ONE survivor that's like them? There are literally like ten other male survivors you can project being straight on, so why crap all over gay people that just want to see themselves in their favorite game?

Here's my take on it this whole thing. Usually I'd say that making someone this or that just for the sake of representation is bad writing but it is very possible for them to do this within the story so go for it. As long as it fits in well with the story I am fine with it. The reason a ton of people have a problem with representation of different types of characters is it is forced so it just looks blatantly horrid. I feel like BHVR can do this right though.