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With the release of Vecna and ST chapter 2, Demogorgon is now even a forgotten killer in his own license. There are many reasons for this including his power being recycled onto newer and more powerful killers, him being pretty mid against anyone who knows how to actually play the game, his addons being booty, him not receiving an actual positively impactful change for a couple years, and now Vecna being him, but significantly cooler and better in every way. Solution? Buff Demogorgon and make some visual changes so he doesn't feel so bland and uncinematic compared to his cooler older brother. Here are my suggested changes for Demogorgon to make him feel stronger, more unique, and more cinematic:

Visuals:

When the Demogorgon is in a trial, the sky is dark, except for an area that is red and stormy with the Mind Flayer in the background.

When the Demogorgon teleports, the killer player can see the Demogorgon flip upside down and crawl to the portal they selected to teleport to.

Basekit:

The Demogorgon's terror radius is lowered from 32 meters to 24 meters

The Demogorgon's portals now cannot be destroyed by survivors, but the Demogorgon can destroy them at will when he is looking at them and within 48 meters.

Increase the Demogorgon's portal setting speed by 25%.

When the Demogorgon emerges from a portal, he will receive undetectable for 15 seconds (currently 5).

Increase the maximum range of a fully charged shred by 1 meter, and decrease the time it takes to fully charge shred from 1 second to 0.8 seconds.

Decrease the base shred miss cooldown by 10%

New part of ability- Crawl Stance:

Each 3 times the Demogorgon teleports, he is given the option to enter Crawl Stance for 40 seconds. While in the stance, the Demogorgon's movement speed in increased to 4.9 m/s (122.5%), his terror radius is decreased from 24 meters to 16 meters, he breaks pallets and breakable walls 20% faster, he vaults windows 20% faster, he teleports 10% faster, and his red stain is reduced by 50%. However, while in this stance, the Demogorgon loses his ability to use shred.

Addons:

There will be many changes to his addons. Not going to list them here though. I'm not trying to torture y'all. Use your imaginations though.

Respectfully let me know what y'all think about my proposed changes to the Demogorgon!

This is bhvr air balling rn lmao how did u miss so badly

This argument would apply to every change that has been made in the game's history.

There's a big difference between encouraging DCing and saying 'here are the reasons that cause frustrations leading to people DCing'

if we are going on the devs decisions and what the devs want then 40% escape rate is all good, survivors are hitting that target on average so its all good.

Presumes balance is the be all, end all, of game design (we aren't limited to BHVR's factors, but they've said there are multiple other things they look at besides just the 60/40 split).

Why are you talking about "anecdotal evidence" like it means anything? It's just your own experience, nothing more. It doesn't invalidate the experiences of others like you're implying.

You can absolutely fault them, or at least the company. It's their choice in the end. They need to stop bowing.

Let's be real for a second. Just because you were able to make it out a gate, doesn't mean that everyone would be able to. You also have to factor in tile and gate spawns too. In like 80% of my survivor matches, the gate spawns are really unfavorable for the survivors, with very short rotations for the killer (or there is a hill with perfect view between the gates), so once that hatch is closed.. game over. Or if you are lucky, you can gamble with the chests in hopes to find a key.

Nothing more to discuss here. Youre just taking everything out of context and are still pretending against common sense. Pls, just dont ever quote me again. Youve done this now several times. Discussion with you is wasted time.

Last patch you could revault inside Kaneki and Wesker, so they probably tried fixing the collision and ######### it up.

Unfortunately, imo your wasting your time on this one.

This particular individual has been in other threads proclaiming that they hide as their primary survivor strategy, allow their teammates to die so they can just get hatch, and declare anyone who doesn't do this to be an idiot. In fact, they've admitted that their teammates are just tools and fodder for their own experience.

In short, they're part of the problem. This is partly why survivor sucks and why games seem hopeless in the first place from the start. They contribute to the problem, actively, and proudly, and encourage others to make the problem worse.

I generally recommend using the forums ignore feature here and saving your breath.

Hi guys, I hope all of are doing well

I was playing survivor yesterday with my friends, and one of the matches were against a kaneki, and ok, nobody wants to play with the new vecna and I don't mind kaneki so much, but this match was really awkward because, every time he was vaulting right after me on pallets, I was insta dying, every single time, I wasn't trying to vault back, I was just going around the loop normaly.

I thought I was just bad at the game, but afterwards I played some kaneki matches to test this, and I was getting the same hits that my kaneki was hitting me on that match, and I was confused, I have a clip of me playing kaneki to give you guys a example.

As you can see, Renato didn't tried to jump back over me, he was just running from me, and suddenly he just dies, like, he instantly dies without any explanation, and this is not something rare, its very common.

I'm afraid once people realize this exploit, people are going to abuse this like crazy and the hate for kaneki is just going to increase, he is already a not very cool killer to go against to some people, and people will think this is a intentional mechanic of his and hate him way more.

I hope BHVR don't waste time on this and killswitch ASAP.