Auric Cell Items and The Cosmetic Grind
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Thanks for your comment on a dead thread. Its always good to add two cents in there, so its much appreciative. Some care about pricing standards while some think fairly priced and very generous. Some ignore cause if its not funded then it will go away. Wish everyone could not fund it but looking at top 5 ps4 purchases during a sale that promoted them. Learned there 500 auric cell was under gta V as 5th and even if still not there from october its still probally in top 10. Sadly with that many people don't think it needs to stop until the game is done with.borna_lk said:It’s the fault of the people who bought them right away. Since they paid the stupid high prices already, lowering them would result in a lot of people wanting compensation for spending extra when it should’ve been less, which would result in loads of free auric cells being given away. It sucks I know, I want to buy 2 outfits and would be willing to pay for them but for some reason they refuse to fix the prices on PlayStation, (playstation prices are 40% higher in the Canadian store than Xbox) so I’m not really willing to pay a premium on a already overpriced premium outfit🤷🏽♂️Like I said, it sucks but it’s just a game so idrc, I won’t fund it till they fix it
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Cosmetic Grinding is fine, Shard prices are a bit high but hey it's a free currency you earn.
The Real Currency prices however are insanely high for what you get in my opinion.
Thankfully I play Killer so the only cosmetics I actually see is the weapon so I've never even considered buying cosmetics.0 -
How I see the shop is that if you want to support BHVR and keep the game alive for longer, you can through the shop and get in-game skins as a bonus. Lets be honest here, they didn't make the skins to give them out for free.
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Bongbingbing said:
Cosmetic Grinding is fine, Shard prices are a bit high but hey it's a free currency you earn.
The Real Currency prices however are insanely high for what you get in my opinion.
Thankfully I play Killer so the only cosmetics I actually see is the weapon so I've never even considered buying cosmetics.I think unless you eat and sleep games its unfair with 200 hour mark. You could have 10 hour game sessions for 20 days to get one of nicer outfits. But by that time 5 more will be on market most likely. Grind is hard even for those that breathe only dbd but once oversaturated store the grind alone is incentive to buy. So these buy only items don't really need to exsist when some will skip the grind they cannot seem to beat. I disagree with saying it is fine cause at 50+ loyalty level start actually gaining better with the levels. Then when reset after 100 have to wait 50 levels to start earning good again. Think it be good if the shards kept up same momentum at 50+ mark into next set of 100 loyalty levels.Could see how it would be more visually pleasing if could see self when only see a forearm and a weapon to enjoy. (Or if clown belly) Only killer that gets to enjoy there form in game is doctor and hag. There isn't mirrors in game to look at your bad self.I personally like being different types of killer to provide variety of terror to survivors. Think it could hurt me alot more in a 2 killer mode cause you and friend could see beautiful oufits have while killing 8 survivors.0 -
I don't want them free at all. In the end fine with buy only options even if enough incentive to buy grind only things with saturated market of skins. I just want fair pricing standards cause clothing packs with multiple 3-8 outfits are ussually 3-6$ max. Could even see animations on killer outfits adding 1-2$ cost cause animated varients ussually have that as extra cost. Survivors have no animations in outfits so they definitely reach range of 3$ outfit. But killers skins should be priced at 5$ max and 8$ max if licensed cosmetic cause have to give piece of pie to licenser. (When have you seen in a game besides dbd where the dlc outfits cost more than dlc)PolarBear said:How I see the shop is that if you want to support BHVR and keep the game alive for longer, you can through the shop and get in-game skins as a bonus. Lets be honest here, they didn't make the skins to give them out for free.
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There are 2 types of people when it comes to cosmetics:
"It's just cosmetics, that's why it can be expensive."
VS
"It's just cosmetics, so why is it so expensive?"
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@Superyoshiegg said:
You know why the Hag, Doctor, Clown, Ace, Feng and Kate are available for free via Iridescent Shards?Because the Cosmetic Store now exists.
You know why the devs have promised that every single new un-licensed character can be purchased for free via Irdiescent Shards?
Because the Cosmetic Store now exists.
They are a company. They have to make money somehow. It's either pricey cosmetics and free content, or pricey content and free cosmetics.
Your pick.
Or they go final fantasy 11 route give away all cosmetics but charge 15$ a month to play.
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@SenzuDuck said:
Ohhh noooo! The developers made content you have to grind or pay for.
It's almost like they're trying to encourage you to purchase it.
What a scam!You don't need the clothing, therefore you can grind it out or pay up. They need to make money, it's how businesses exist.
U.S. citizens seem to have no problem taking corporate interest sides and be happy getting butthumped by them. They even defend themselves getting screwed over like this guy here.
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@ShowMeUrBirb said:
$10 for a full purple skin is fine price for me.You are the reason why the gaming industry gets away with this overpriced garbage. Seriously, since when did consumers get so appeased with being ripped off? I understand the "Everything is worth what the purchaser pays for", so it boggles my mind how you think that item is worth that amount of currency. Show some self respect.
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@KissyKissy said:
@SenzuDuck said:
Ohhh noooo! The developers made content you have to grind or pay for.
It's almost like they're trying to encourage you to purchase it.
What a scam!You don't need the clothing, therefore you can grind it out or pay up. They need to make money, it's how businesses exist.
U.S. citizens seem to have no problem taking corporate interest sides and be happy getting butthumped by them. They even defend themselves getting screwed over like this guy here.
I'm from the UK, good job detective.
You don't need all the cosmetics, these numbers are grossly misrepresented because the grind is for ALL outfits, not the ones you want, if you want them all prepare to grind.
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The grind is insane to incentivize players into becoming revenue cattle and cash whales. Standard scummy business practices.
It's why there's so little focus on improving performance on console or actually balance the game (instead of injecting band-aids at every corner). No profit. DLC and Cosmetics, that's where the money come from.1 -
@EntityDispleased said:
I bought Wraith's candle set and David's security outfit with shards and I barely have 500 hours (a quarter of it sitting in lobbies waiting for survivors). I also got wraith's set ages ago at around 300-400 hours. I could have bought a lot more but I also bought all non licensed killers with shards except for spirit."The grind is real" only when you measure it in how many games you have to play or how many hours you have to put in. Just play the game and the shards will be a free reward on the side. Besides, they do want you to pay real money because they have rent and bills to pay.
You do have a point about the auric cells being a bit expensive but they are giving you a free option for these cosmetics, and cosmetics aren't vital to play the game.
I would be fine with all the grind if all could be grinded cause have a choice to do the grind or get past it. I did math on average games on the candle wraith and found 250 hours was how long it took but that is being generous cause it keeps in mind that everyone will give you an average game every single time. (that is untrue some will give you neverending games) The fact it takes 300-400 hours is very sad grind but it can be swallowed if no pay walls on other outfits. Cause there will always be incentive to pay thats what hard grinds are meant to do.
If want something will constantly look over it and some will be frustrated and convinced with time to get it. (then throw it off as stuipid purchase while grind for something new to tease you)
I just in end don't understand why using two greedy tatics when one is effective. Plus you make more profit margins when stuff is cheaper. (plus its digital once made can't run out of product) 1000 buying 10$ outfit is fine but if can have 10,000 buying 5$ outfits your making 5x as much. Im sure not only one who sees a deal and finds it more palletable to buy. Probally why mcdonalds value meals/kid meals is there biggest profit margin. I really want them to succeed in greed a bit better where don't even notice it. Grind and high prices along with making auric cells match the dollar equivalent was a bad choice.
Know its cosmetic but when i grew up on newgrounds seen dressup games were quite beloved by not only me but many others. Sure its less great in 3rd person perspective but still can enjoy the terror of my form giving to survivors. So visual wise don't have much to complain about unless get that fabled two killer mode. Then the rage is back cause can see my plain jane killer buddy alot.
I think in total have given up on this cause looking at sales of there auric cells they have no incentive to quit. It is suprisingly a cash cow for them and as long as profitable. Why quit when can shove out more of them.@Cardgrey said:
Or they go final fantasy 11 route give away all cosmetics but charge 15$ a month to play.I know this might be a joke but i would pay for this a month. Cause it be cheaper and i get to enjoy game fully at 100%. Plus if it had features where you get to test ptb on thing like consoles/pc 2 days before everyone tests it. Heavy amounts of customization in kyf maybe even mod support. Think online access shouldn't be part of it but give me enough features and i will guzzle up something monthly.
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@FayeZahara said:
@EntityDispleased said:
I bought Wraith's candle set and David's security outfit with shards and I barely have 500 hours (a quarter of it sitting in lobbies waiting for survivors). I also got wraith's set ages ago at around 300-400 hours. I could have bought a lot more but I also bought all non licensed killers with shards except for spirit."The grind is real" only when you measure it in how many games you have to play or how many hours you have to put in. Just play the game and the shards will be a free reward on the side. Besides, they do want you to pay real money because they have rent and bills to pay.
You do have a point about the auric cells being a bit expensive but they are giving you a free option for these cosmetics, and cosmetics aren't vital to play the game.
I would be fine with all the grind if all could be grinded cause have a choice to do the grind or get past it. I did math on average games on the candle wraith and found 250 hours was how long it took but that is being generous cause it keeps in mind that everyone will give you an average game every single time. (that is untrue some will give you neverending games) The fact it takes 300-400 hours is very sad grind but it can be swallowed if no pay walls on other outfits. Cause there will always be incentive to pay thats what hard grinds are meant to do.
If want something will constantly look over it and some will be frustrated and convinced with time to get it. (then throw it off as stuipid purchase while grind for something new to tease you)
I just in end don't understand why using two greedy tatics when one is effective. Plus you make more profit margins when stuff is cheaper. (plus its digital once made can't run out of product) 1000 buying 10$ outfit is fine but if can have 10,000 buying 5$ outfits your making 5x as much. Im sure not only one who sees a deal and finds it more palletable to buy. Probally why mcdonalds value meals/kid meals is there biggest profit margin. I really want them to succeed in greed a bit better where don't even notice it. Grind and high prices along with making auric cells match the dollar equivalent was a bad choice.
Know its cosmetic but when i grew up on newgrounds seen dressup games were quite beloved by not only me but many others. Sure its less great in 3rd person perspective but still can enjoy the terror of my form giving to survivors. So visual wise don't have much to complain about unless get that fabled two killer mode. Then the rage is back cause can see my plain jane killer buddy alot.
I think in total have given up on this cause looking at sales of there auric cells they have no incentive to quit. It is suprisingly a cash cow for them and as long as profitable. Why quit when can shove out more of them.@Cardgrey said:
Or they go final fantasy 11 route give away all cosmetics but charge 15$ a month to play.I know this might be a joke but i would pay for this a month. Cause it be cheaper and i get to enjoy game fully at 100%. Plus if it had features where you get to test ptb on thing like consoles/pc 2 days before everyone tests it. Heavy amounts of customization in kyf maybe even mod support. Think online access shouldn't be part of it but give me enough features and i will guzzle up something monthly.
I’m not joking it worked for that game it also gives u a goal...
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