How does disconnecting as killer affect the game negatively?
I understand how disconnecting as survivor can mess up your teammates and stuff, but when your about to die on third hook and you get downed and disconnect, why is it bad? Your game was pretty much already over if you were being carried to the basement on death hook, most of the time anyway.
What do survivors lose when the killer DC's? They all escape and win, so why do killers get punished for doing it too? I don't wanna sit there and deal with a toxic SWF, and if anything disconnecting gives them a free win. Does it like not safety pip the survivors?
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You might be cucking Survivors out of a pip if the game hasn't gone on long enough for them to acquire those emblem points.
On the bright side, we get to keep our add-ons :3
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I've been disconnecting a lot lately, as I feel like there is nothing I can do anymore In the game so I just gtfo
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Well there are various reasons you could be feeling like that such as what Killer you play, the map, the skill of the Survivors, etc.
My advice (as someone who isn't the best at Killer myself) is to just play for what will make you happy instead of what the system wants. I felt way better after making that adjustment personally.
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If you don't have the decency to play the game in good faith, to the end don't play. Whether killer or survivor, play to the end or just don't play. Simple as that.
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lol killers should not be allowed to DC! Losing situations are exactly the time that killers, who might be having a difficult time, should push forward and keep trying.
1. Those are the situations you are most likely to learn from. Trial and error. You won't learn from players who aren't making you play hard.
2. The killer might be giving up too soon. Most of my games are won with one gen left and most of my hooks are usually when there are two or fewer generators. I wonder how many wins I had that another player may have quit on
The DC penalty was made for exactly players like this. The notes for the DC Penalty say something along the lines of, the disconnecting player probably needs a break anyways lol.
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I feel like killers should have a "surrender" option but dcing isnt the answer, all you are doing is wasting everyones time
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It's just lame that you wait a long time for a survivor lobby just for the killer to dc. It's especially worse during mid game.
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It wastes time, big time for some Survivors.
Not every Survivor cares purely about BP or ranks, some want to play.
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Ermm so to the first part, why would you DC at all, wait a few seconds and die like the gameplay intends...
To the second, you dont have to play, you can just go sit in the basement tbh and wait for them to leave.
Apart from that the game would be quite ruined if people who are doing badly just dip out early every time.
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Can't killer just open exit doors? I don't play killer so don't know when they can do this?
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The issue is what you don’t find fun here which isn’t a valid reason to dc. Giving a legit reason for you as a killer to dc just opens up a mine field for both sides as both would have to be held to the same standard.
Like it or not players would dc due to maps, gens done quick, better players, certain killers, offering and adding to name a few reasons.
If you are not having fun take a break but doing is wrong on any side as it ruins the experience and wields less points along with being able to outplay the other. While you see it as survivors get something you aren’t seeing what they lose in terms of the match as a whole.
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I've lost pips to killers who dc :(
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Same here. Worried I might trigger an auto system. I wish they would just give us a surrender option. When they're so ######### sweaty and making the game zero fun why do I, as a killer PLAYER, want to keep playing a game for FUN that is producing ZERO FUN?
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Yep.
When I am utterly deflated from a ridiculous Benny Hill match, I go to the basement and stand in the corner facing the wall, contemplating my failure like a bad killer who knows the entity will be displeased and that he'll probably be going to bed with no supper tonight.
EDIT: Meanwhile, the puppet master puts down the Dualshock 4 and beckons Mary Jane over.
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Lets start easy: You cannot play a matched you queued up for. You may not even black pip. You do not get more BPs. You may not be able to fulfill your challenge. ... Does this satisfy you? Killers are in the same spot as survivors, when it comes down to DCs. Also DCing as killer is quite pathetic.
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Easy fix: black pip guaranteed.
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All gens have to finish first before killer can open the exit gate
Even if killer did that and hide in shame around walls/corner some survivors refuse to leave the gate and farm(cleanse totems, open chest) and/or toxic(spam vault window/pallet, drop every pallets) until timer nearly run out
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It just robs survivors of points and possibly a pip.
But with that said, if you dc because we are kicking your butt, that is like triple pipping for me!
Sorry but you queued up to play killer, then dc because you got outplayed and your noed didn't pop. Boohoo so sad. Thanks for giving us a great laugh, as well disrespecting us killers that play fair, albeit maybe a bit sweaty, and take the occasional loss with class.
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People don't want a black pip. People want their potential pip and the points from mid and late game (where a majority of the points come from) after waiting in queue.
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When I DC, I do it because the survivors I'm playing against clearly just want a game of bullying a killer. I'm trying to relearn nurse now that I've got shadowborn, I load into a game with 4 survivor offerings, one map and one BPS.
When I get to the main building it's survivors who clearly just want to bully me. ######### that. You want to play the game after queueing you treat the other guy as a person too. Especially if you're a ######### 4man swf.
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Well that is not us. We play to have fun and escape. But bullying is not what we do. It is often hard to find more then two of us together as we split up to put the most pressure on that we can.
With that said, if we face a hard tunneling killer. You know , just chasing the same guy all game, ignoring all other survivors, tunneling right off the hook, we will attempt to take the hits and force the killer to at least see how bad their tunnel vision has been.
Can I ask, what do you consider bullying? I have played a lot of killer and rarely find those I would classify as good enough to bully me.
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Because then what would be the reason for survivors not to dc? Get 5 gens done and the killer disconnects, it happened so much.
So why would you stay in a losing game as survivor? You’re not allowed to win but you’re expected to stay in the game when losing?
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You seem to have focused on the end result and rewards (points, pips), but that's not all that people play the game for. When the killer leaves early, the game ends. Everyone now has to go back and sit in queue. If you're playing to actually play the game, that guy leaving has quite literally stopped you from doing so.
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so are you guys aware or fixing the DC exploit on xbox? getting very annoying tbh and theyre being rewarded for it
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No he hasn't. because you go right back in the queue to continue playing the game. All the killer did was end a match early. Youd on't stop playing the game until you actually stop playing the game.
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But pips are meaningless anyway. Especially when the SBMM is live, after that rank is absolutly losing his last meaning it had.
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How long are queues lmfao
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I agree. Just allow them to open the exits but noed and rancor and things of that natute won't activate.
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Sitting in a queue for 5 minutes just to have a killer prematurely end the game is a pretty bad experience. He is to a certain extent stopping you from playing the game.
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Disconnecting is a ######### thing to do for either side and is not permissable behavior for either side unless it's because of circumstances outside of your control (but let's be honest that isn't the case most of the time).
For me specifically, playing as survivor OR killer I usually play with a purpose. This means with Archive Challenges or Daily objectives in mind, and even when I have neither of those I'm still putting out Bloodpoint Party streamers or really good BP bonus offerings to maximize the amount of bloodpoints I'm earning.
If I'm playing survivor, it absolutely sucks, when I'm the one doing my absolute best and damndest to get an archive challenge or daily objective done for a character I don't play. Last tome I was stuck for literal HOURS playing David and Jane for what should have been extremely simple challenges but just for the life of me I just had terrible luck completing. Here I am, in solo queue, being extremely frustrated - dying a bunch, escaping a bunch (without getting the objective done) but still seeing my matches through to the end even if I'm getting stomped or it would just be easier to disconnect if I know I'm not gonna succeed.
And then finally, I'm close to getting the master challenge done the match is going well, and the killer is salty because he can't take one loss and he disconnects. When I've been frustrated and "losing" (by the standard of not getting my objective done) for a string of matches more than 5 or 10 in a row. That's so dumb
You have no idea what the people you're going against have been going through in their gameplay, they could be on an actual loss streak for a couple of hours and finally they have the upper hand but you decide to DC. Denying them the satisfaction of success even though arguably they've been through worse because they're more persistent and have stuck with it
This applies to survivors who DC as well for obvious reasons but you were asking about what the problem is for killers to DC so that's what I described.
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No they're not. They're just ending the match or delaying you. Only you (or your internet blinking out) can stop you from playing the game.
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In Xbox a lot of killers are disconnected because they don't have any penalty, will you fix it?
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Points. Not waiting in queue.
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You go back into a 5-20 minute queue of waiting. You have a very myopic perspective of how people enjoy this game. If you cannot make it through an entire 5-10 minute game without disconnecting, then you shouldn't be queue'ing up to play to begin with.
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It robs them of the joy of being face- or close perimeter camped and immediately tunnelled off the hook when the unhook animation has ended.
And of the joy of not being able to play 4/5th of the game with most of the killers dull gamestyle.
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4 other players have to re-queue
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Lol
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If you're that burned out, just play a different game until you're feeling it again.
The only real takeaway here is that BHVR should've given killers a bloody concede button when they asked for it instead of ducking around with the EGC. A small amount of ehc mechanics could've been implemented as qol measures, but yeah, concede should've been first.
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You missed the part where the queues are insanely long. You finally get a game after 5 minutes just to have a game end very prematurely. So yes, to a certain extent he is stopping you from playing a normal game. You take 5 minutes to load, 2 minutes to get into the game, and then play for a minute or two just to be DC'd on and not actually be able to fully play a normal game. So then you go back to a 5+ minute queue and repeat the cycle hoping you don't get DC'd on again. In total, this can pretty much stop you from playing the actual game for upwards of 15+ minutes. I've had this happen to me so many times. When players of both sides DC, everyone suffers.
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Sitting in a lobby is not playing the game lmao. You don't even need your hands on your controller/keyboard. If I can play on my phone while waiting for a match, I'm not playing the game, I'm waiting to play one. The actual game is within the trials. Not by the campfire.
I assume you're a troll. If not, you should realize what people mean by "playing the game" and adjust your opinion accordingly.
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So you get back into the queue to continue playing. Huh... So you didn't stop. The round just ended.
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Yeah. I guess you can spend bloodpoints only during a match. And you can only customize your character during a match. OH! You probably can only visit the Rift to pick challenges or listen/watch lore snippets. And of course, you can only create your builds during a match as well.
Maybe you should about how much more there is to playing the game than running around in a match?
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What if that's how they enjoy playing? Who are you to tell someone how they should or shouldn't play?
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In this particular case I had been practicing nurse as is finally unlocked shadowborn. I load in to the game, instant OoO so I know this isn't going to be entertaining. I follow them to the main building, they're all there, I get head-on stunned and flashlighted.
In what way is that supposed to be fun? I have similar games at least once a night, and I only play 4-5 games a day.
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Yes you did stop. Because you're back in queue not playing a game that you should be playing. It does stop you from playing the game. Yes, it is temporary. But not being able to play the game for upwards of 25 minutes because someone couldn't control their temper isn't good or right.
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So ou can spend bloodpoints only during a match. And you can only customize your character during a match. OH! You probably can only visit the Rift to pick challenges or listen/watch lore snippets. And of course, you can only create your builds during a match as well. All these things that go into playing the game you can only do in a match...
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"And you can only customize your character during a match."
A very niche thing. Not everyone has 456 outfits that they change every single time they queue.
"You probably can only visit the Rift to pick challenges or listen/watch lore snippets."
I want to play the game, not sit and get into the lore. Maybe if you could do this while queuing, you'd have a point. But it doesn't pass queue time.
"And of course, you can only create your builds during a match as well."
The majority of the player base isn't switching builds every time they queue. Many stick with one specific rotation.
You can't use niche things as an excuse for people who ruin the game for others because they have a bad temper.
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"You can't use niche things as an excuse for people who ruin the game for others because they have a bad temper."
Niche things? XD You're reaching hard with that one. Creating your builds, spending bloodpoints, choosing rift challenges.... all these are niche?
Your ealize niche means that these things only appeal to a small number of people. Are you honestly saying only a small number of people do these things? Brilliant.
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"Are you honestly saying only a small number of people do these things."
On a consistent basis, yes. A very small number of people consistently rotate their perks and outfits.
"Yes, it is temporary. But not being able to play the game for upwards of 25 minutes because someone couldn't control their temper isn't good or right."
You listing secondary things you can do in the game doesn't change the fact that it isn't okay to ruin the core gameplay. The large majority of the people don't play the game specifically for the archives, or changing their outfits, or changing their build every game. They play it because they want to actually play against another living being and try to out play each other. You stopping them from doing that for the upwards of 20 minutes because you had a little temper tantrum isn't alright.
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You admitting that people don't stop playing the game just because they're not in a match was enough. Thanks!
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