Remember guys, NOED is for bad killers...
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Hoenstly at this point I'm half convinced op doesn't care about the proof they're given.
They asked me to stream high level killer gameplay that's LITERALLY what I do and it's not good enough because I don't agree with their opinion.
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I didn't make myself clear: I couldn't care less who you are in a discussion.
If your opinion is survivor-biased then, well, you are inclined to survivors.
Don't see the point in discussing with you anymore, you are more into attention it seems to me.
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Oh wow, killer is so not oppressed! It's why people like you don't dare to play killer beyond rank 12. Right? Right.
I play both sides, it's a fact the game is survivor-inclined and if you can't see that, not sure what to tell you. You need to work out your cognition abilities.
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LMFAO.
So because my opinion FAVOURS survivors I'm entitled TO survivors DESPITE not playing them very often and hating the role?
Okay buddy. Okay.
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Lol I play both sides equally in red ranks but alright. Also you can literally just double hit the unhooker and then hook them instead attacking the person off the hook its not that hard. DS isn't god mode for 60 seconds it's "You can't tunnel me for 60 seconds.". By your logic a perk that takes 2+ minutes off the killers time to counter is perfectly fine as well?
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Exactly. NOED, hardcore tunneling and camping (relying on these) are for bad killers. DS and unbreakable are for bad survivors as well.
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I'm so glad someone else shares my opinions on this '^-^
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Not tryna be mean but how is unbreakable for bad survivors? It gets used in like 5/100 games and to counter a strategy that otherwise has no counters.
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Your comment shows your expertise with killer but apparently everyone is red rank killer in here.
This is where BT abuse comes here, you go for unhooker and they just body block you and take a hit. Deadly especially in end game.
It IS god mode for 60 seconds for the simple fact is survivors can heal in your face, fix a gen, or just come back body blocking and harass you since they are invulnerable.
Also, doing a gen is 80 seconds so 60 seconds is a bit too much. And yet you cry about "2 minutes" to counter NOED, hmm..
Seriously, play killer.
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I main Hag, Spirit, Huntress, PH, occasionally play Nurse, and most recently LeatherFace lol but i do play pretty much everyone just not equally by any means. You realize if you hit them DURING the unhook then you can hit them again before its fully finished :o I know crazy right you dont always have to attack the person right off hook. Its funny how someone disagrees or proves you wrong and your instant go to is "SURVIVOR MAIN YOU ONLY PLAY SURVIVOR YOURE A BAD KILLER!!!!!!!"
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"Survivors can heal in your face." Lol slug them not hard
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Ah sorry, using unbreakable with DS is for bad survivors. Not using it with DS is fine.
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Also, fire up is for bad killers and wake up is for bad survivors. You should never have to rely on these crutch perks to win.
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Oh okay thank you for clarifying! ^-^
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Exactly!! Fire Up is so op it's won me games singlehandedly!!
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Survivor mains swarming my topic now under the disguise of actually playing "killer", sure.
Had to explain how DS/BT are perks to abuse and not to counter tunneling/camping, like any killer wouldn't know that.
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I don't play mainly on PC but when I do play I normally play Hag with this build lel sorry you're salty that even killer mains think you're in the wrong on this one chief
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Just. Watch. Me. Stream.
You asked me to stream high level killer gameplay. That's exactly what I do.
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I can put screenshot of me having P3 level 50 all survivors and a rank Zero survivor. Or post "VOD"s too, it literally proves nothing.
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How does a VOD not prove anything it's literally a recording of the stream. It's LITERALLY 3 hours of me playing primarily killer.
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Dude, just how delusional are you to discredit everyone else's points?
If you can't handle people slapping back at your arguments, don't even bother creating a thread in the first place, holy cow.
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What points did I dismiss? That screenshots and VODs proof nothing? Better reading comprehension please.
This topic is about NOED is for bad killers, DH BT Unnbreakable and 100 other perks are good for survivors. That's all!
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Bruh, trying to discuss points that clearly are against you and denying them doesn't prove anything for you either, all it does is show how little you care about other people's opinions and just give yourself all the credit about being right in everything you say.
Killers have a lot of good perks that are overlooked, survivors barely have anything that's even worth considering bringing, instance being spine chill as one of the most popular out of the meta perks, DH is server heavy and most of the time you're gonna be lying in the ground EXHAUSTED, BT doesn't work on freddy, Unbreakable is as easy as downing them early so they either waste the perk or they waste time in the ground waiting for someone else.
100 perks are good for survivors my ass, man, quit being such a baby about it.
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Survivor main what to expect... Do you even play DbD if you literally believe survivors got nothing and killers are the power role?
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The pinnacle of trolling right here, calling everyone you don't like a survivor main just proves about how reasonable you are.
Boy what a joke.
Grow up and stop believing you're in the right to discredit everyone who doesn't follow your opinion when clearly you're being contradicted by the most part.
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You honestly saying survivors got no good perks and killer has all the good perks.. How can I take you seriously after that? It's like that dude who said hatch is killer-favored.
I am sorry but it's my opinion.
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You're oblivious I can't even believe you're serious, everyone else here as already proven their points and all you've done is deny each single one of them without ANY argument that's even remotely good on your side, all you do is resort to the same kind of weak ideas that prove nothing for you, and yeah, call me a survivor main if that makes you feel better, but it ain't even remotely true.
Stop trolling, adapt to what you don't like and stop creating bait threads just to deny everything you don't like, that's my point.
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Because survivors shame killer for using NOED and say "not a good killer" when themselves have more perks that are way more powerful than NOED and are considered truly a "crutch". Not to mention going against 4x of them (so imagine, 4x 60 seconds).
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Wow entitled survivor mains are so entitled and used to dictate what people do. Stop tunneling/camping, stop noed, stop posting in discussion boards!
Who needs to grow up? Anyways it seems we are going off-topic, so either contribute to this: NOED bad, 100 survivors perks are OK, or please leave.
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Pure drama mama, I swear, what a waste of reasoning goes with you.
Good luck everyone else, but don't waste your precious time on this absolute killer-biased troll, everything is survivor sided in this game for them.
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You literally have not made any discussion on this topic. From your first post to the last all attacking me, same in the Hatch topic (anyone can search your posts). AND THEN, you go on and say I am an absolute killer-biased troll? Projecting much, my absolute survivor-biased troll friend? You don't have to contribute but also I don't want your insults so leave now.
Have a nice day.
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I agree but I am afraid the bullying gets to killers and make them feel down, so I made a topic to encourage them to use NOED, tunnel, camp, mori, iri heads and do whatever they want. They paid for this game and it's okay if they want to win, they are not using an exploit of being toxic at all.
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It's not so much that bad killers use NOED. It's that good killers realize NOED isn't a good perk. You don't see many good killers using NOED because it's a bad perk.
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I agree totally. But still killers can use all perks, items, moris, camp, and tunnel if they want to. Survivors should not bully them.
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Oh for sure. Run whatever you want. It's usually the ones with full meta builds who complain about the slightest rulebook infraction.
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DS and BT are abused together i down someone hook them chase someone else down them first one i hook follow me to hook does unhooking in my face with BT then they sure still have ds. what do i do?
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Waaaay too often.
Not to mention End Game which is a different game altogether.
They are not anti camping/tunneling let's be clear, poor design and very abusive especially against SWF (which are 80%+ of what I go against, and 90%+ of at least duo/trio).
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so true people keep say there not many swf but they are are solo are i bet most are swf either 2man 3man.
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Yep.
It's just another survivor nonsense that goes like this: "SWF is not common, but take out SWF and you kill the game!"
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Curb your projection, I never said I needed or even used the perk. But I don't cry when people use tactics or perks in the game.
I don't tell survivors they're scrubs for using my DS + Unbreakable and I'm not moved by the new name "smoll pp" aka another tactic for shaming players for playing the game.
I don't cry if NoED exists or a killer has it and I've never shamed a killer for using it. If anything is "Smoll pp" again it is the idea that you, I or anyone else get to tell others the right way to play the game.
Also that point you're trying to make? Not a good point. People make it to rank 1 without any perks at all, so you're implication is that it's feasible to play the game at red ranks with no perks or add ons consistently, using wraith or PH (which I don't know WHO told you PH is a weak killer, but ok) I think pretty much everyone would disagree with you there.
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Remember he is saying it's okay for survivors because they don't "rely" on said perks, but killer is bad for using NOED.
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I'm saying it's okay for killers if they don't rely on it. I'm saying it's not okay for survivors if they do rely on it.
Learn to read.
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You did not say that at all.
You said it's okay if he is end-game build, that is, using something like blood warden.
Learn to express your ideas better and to write.
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I've said that since the start every time I've used the word RELY on. If you don't RELY on it you're fine.
Please, sit down.
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Dude, what you literally said was it's okay if Killer is end-game build only. You can backtrack it's okay you won't sound as dumb as when you do what you are doing right now.
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Oh Holy ######### I give up with this thread.
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Of course man, thanks for the civil conversation.
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Toxic is a term used quite liberally, but that depends on your definition. I do not see tactics such as tunneling or camping as "toxic" especially not slugging. They're tactics people find disagreeable but it's not griefing. I really wish people wouldn't do this. Its on the onus of the killer whether or not they desire to follow these made up honor codes. Just because DS and BT could be used as counters doesn't mean that they're frowned upon or deemed illegal by the development team.
There seems to be a misunderstanding of DS and Noed as concepts, I could follow the honor codes((which I do unfortunately)) then still eat a DS. There's far too many variables in a match that the community does not account for when they ostracize the way killers play. DS could be used as an anti-tunnel perk but the developers, correct me if I am wrong here, did not state that that was its purpose and NOED isn't made to "get easy kills" it's purpose is for end game same as Remember Me. The end game is just as important as the early game, it isn't over because you completed all of the gens. It could easily be countered by eliminating totems or running reconnaissance perks or a simple map. While both perks could be unfun to play against and I wouldn't be against a rework, neither are inherently evil. They're both tools.
DBD is supposed to be a game of cat and mouse, you have to think ahead of your opponent even before you load up. There are tactics that are unfun, but that doesn't mean they are wrong. That's mostly subjective. We need to have a conversation about what we'd like to see from other players without shaming them because killers seem to bare 80% of the brunt of this from this community. They can't even run certain add ons without people giving them grief for it. I think that's the frustration the OP is having, though he's expressing it rather poorly...
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If you think "press E to win after making a mistake" is fine I dunno what to tell you.
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Yep. Basically a third health state.
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