killers need to be able to opt out of SWF
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@HellDescent said:
@Master said:
@Mycroft said:
It's amazing the dynamic of this game and the dissonance of the people who play it. A lone survivor can say "This isn't fun." and BHVR's crack team sends everyone out McLean,
Horvath all of them break their necks to analyze a way to make that survivor happy.A killer says the same and you get a mass response yes, of people who crawl out of the woodwork to convince you the legitimate fundamental unfairness inherent in this game does not exist. I mean you heard it here, folks "Solo survivors will be brought up to the levels of SWF survivors then killers will be buffed" apparently that's BHVR speak for saying at that point killers will have to get stronger to deal with that confluence of crap there will be no choice. All of this is TBA. Which is what we've been told now for months on end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_edXbh-_mEwThats actually 9 months ago now.
Nothing, and I mean LITERALLY NOTHING, has been done to improve SWF balanceAnd then as soon as you mention coms survivor mains start raging and tell you to git gut.
If you dodge them before the game starts, they cant tell you to git gut
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This is how we introduce people into the game. We lose often because of that. I can see the frustration with high tier teams for killers but without a healthy killer population, that opt out would make very difficult, we would never get people to play much less play solo and that kills the game’s growth.
But matching is definitely an issue on both sides.0 -
@Master said:
@HellDescent said:
@Master said:
@Mycroft said:
It's amazing the dynamic of this game and the dissonance of the people who play it. A lone survivor can say "This isn't fun." and BHVR's crack team sends everyone out McLean,
Horvath all of them break their necks to analyze a way to make that survivor happy.A killer says the same and you get a mass response yes, of people who crawl out of the woodwork to convince you the legitimate fundamental unfairness inherent in this game does not exist. I mean you heard it here, folks "Solo survivors will be brought up to the levels of SWF survivors then killers will be buffed" apparently that's BHVR speak for saying at that point killers will have to get stronger to deal with that confluence of crap there will be no choice. All of this is TBA. Which is what we've been told now for months on end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_edXbh-_mEwThats actually 9 months ago now.
Nothing, and I mean LITERALLY NOTHING, has been done to improve SWF balanceAnd then as soon as you mention coms survivor mains start raging and tell you to git gut.
If you dodge them before the game starts, they cant tell you to git gut
True except I never dodge lobbys.. There's no way of telling if it's swf until the game begins. If there was I definitely would.
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You always keep complaining about the game, devs, even saying you are done with this game sometimes... I wonder why you keep coming and releasing your daily dose of rant and hatred.Mycroft said:The official these song of Cheat With Friends
Go see a doctor or something mate, or just grow up.2 -
It is part of the game. Just deal with it or play something else. Why is everything on here a cry fest! Grow up! I'm starting think i'm playing against 12 year olds.
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@HellDescent said:
@Master said:
@HellDescent said:
@Master said:
@Mycroft said:
It's amazing the dynamic of this game and the dissonance of the people who play it. A lone survivor can say "This isn't fun." and BHVR's crack team sends everyone out McLean,
Horvath all of them break their necks to analyze a way to make that survivor happy.A killer says the same and you get a mass response yes, of people who crawl out of the woodwork to convince you the legitimate fundamental unfairness inherent in this game does not exist. I mean you heard it here, folks "Solo survivors will be brought up to the levels of SWF survivors then killers will be buffed" apparently that's BHVR speak for saying at that point killers will have to get stronger to deal with that confluence of crap there will be no choice. All of this is TBA. Which is what we've been told now for months on end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_edXbh-_mEwThats actually 9 months ago now.
Nothing, and I mean LITERALLY NOTHING, has been done to improve SWF balanceAnd then as soon as you mention coms survivor mains start raging and tell you to git gut.
If you dodge them before the game starts, they cant tell you to git gut
True except I never dodge lobbys.. There's no way of telling if it's swf until the game begins. If there was I definitely would.
Joining at the same time = 90% chance a SWF
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Killer acting all innocent and betrayed lol. First 3 months the killers absolutely stomped new players by exploiting the dodging of lobbies. And I know because I used it to get rank 1 on my killer to get the achievement because of timeschedule of work so dont go denying it.
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@Master said:
@HellDescent said:
@Master said:
@HellDescent said:
@Master said:
@Mycroft said:
It's amazing the dynamic of this game and the dissonance of the people who play it. A lone survivor can say "This isn't fun." and BHVR's crack team sends everyone out McLean,
Horvath all of them break their necks to analyze a way to make that survivor happy.A killer says the same and you get a mass response yes, of people who crawl out of the woodwork to convince you the legitimate fundamental unfairness inherent in this game does not exist. I mean you heard it here, folks "Solo survivors will be brought up to the levels of SWF survivors then killers will be buffed" apparently that's BHVR speak for saying at that point killers will have to get stronger to deal with that confluence of crap there will be no choice. All of this is TBA. Which is what we've been told now for months on end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_edXbh-_mEwThats actually 9 months ago now.
Nothing, and I mean LITERALLY NOTHING, has been done to improve SWF balanceAnd then as soon as you mention coms survivor mains start raging and tell you to git gut.
If you dodge them before the game starts, they cant tell you to git gut
True except I never dodge lobbys.. There's no way of telling if it's swf until the game begins. If there was I definitely would.
Joining at the same time = 90% chance a SWF
It does not.
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We just need a new game mode where you can kwf 2 killers vs 8 survivors 10 gens
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@gamerx42z said:
So I've been playing on and off for a few months started playing more when it became a plus game. The one thing that's really been bugging me is I often will get matched up with rank 2 SWF groups when I'm a rank 15 killer. Seriously it's happened twice in an hour at this point.The matchmaking is very unbalanced when SWF comes up and they should not be facing killers in the newbie ranks, I'd really like to see an option to opt out of SWF completely. Give killers who opt into SWF double bp or some other incentive maybe.
I get the frustration that some people feel when it comes to SWF, but I think having a button to click that filters out SWF would actually cause more harm to the game then good. For one thing, if you just can't handle the frustration of a SWF team then you can always dodge the lobby if 4 survivors appear at the same time.
The problem with making it so killers can opt out of SWF is that you will split the population of players making the lobby wait times intolerable. If you are a killer opting out then your lobbies will take ridiculous amounts of time to fill and likewise, SWF teams would take ridiculous amounts of time to find killers.
My personal recommendation is to learn how to take advantage of SWF team's weaknesses. SWF is very predictable. Use it to your advantage.
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I think the issue with SWF should be dealt with, problem is that it will split the playerbase, which will affect queue times tremendously for the worse, if the option to opt out of SWF matches is implemented.
Instead I think they should seek to fix the unfairness and unbalance it creates, by first implementing more communicative options for non-swf groups so that it is more even. Then they should penalize the swf groups game mechanically based on how many they are, to even out the unfairness and advantage they have. Because the devs can't take the edge from them that comes from being in an swf, and they can't buff the killer either UNLESS it's a FULL SWF group, however, it would be much better to impose game mechanical disadvantages as it works regardsless of group combination (mixed sfw and non-swf groups).0 -
Come on, go and look for a single comment of mine complaining about noed. If you do, i'll change my name to Rektfox xDGiche said:
Also, i might have said that camping for the only reason to secure the kill and stuff are cheap tactics but that's it. Never asked for them to be punished or reportable.
Anyway, glad you thought about me, that gif made me laugh xD
Edit: i even said noed was fine. And, as far as i know, never called any perk a "crutch".0 -
did.... did these survivors ask for this? Do... do you think they like being curb stomped because a killer can't handle the rank he's got too so cheats and intentionally loses matches so he can play against newer survivors.
@SenzuDuck Nailed it exactly. Thats the only thing I took from watching his video. Hes not particularly a good killer and it shows clear as day in his video. I think he blames his lack of skill and losing on ''swf'' groups. In saying that we all lose games as killers. But I cant stand this mentality of blaming the game, its devs and swf for your own mistakes in the games.
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SWF is a money maker, the will never nerf or change.
The only thing we can do is, dodge a swf lobby.0 -
I play both sides at rank one. The complaints at this point are just beyond ridiculous.Vietfox said:
Come on, go and look for a single comment of mine complaining about noed. If you do, i'll change my name to Rektfox xDGiche said:
Also, i might have said that camping for the only reason to secure the kill and stuff are cheap tactics but that's it. Never asked for them to be punished or reportable.
Anyway, glad you thought about me, that gif made me laugh xD
Edit: i even said noed was fine. And, as far as i know, never called any perk a "crutch".0 -
You quoted me instead of @Giche xDfcc2014 said:
I play both sides at rank one. The complaints at this point are just beyond ridiculous.Vietfox said:
Come on, go and look for a single comment of mine complaining about noed. If you do, i'll change my name to Rektfox xDGiche said:
Also, i might have said that camping for the only reason to secure the kill and stuff are cheap tactics but that's it. Never asked for them to be punished or reportable.
Anyway, glad you thought about me, that gif made me laugh xD
Edit: i even said noed was fine. And, as far as i know, never called any perk a "crutch".0 -
They won't do this. Every single killer (for the most part) would opt out and swf groups would never be able to find games. If they were going to do that they might as well just get rid of swf. The current route they are taking is a better one imo. Their goal is to bring solo players and swf groups to a closer level so they can make it easier to balance the game as a whole. And honestly once they find a way to extend games a little bit, it won't really matter that much if people are swf or not. They only real advantage at that point will be voice comms which won't make you lose a game in most situations.
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Now I don't want to encourage this playstyle because it is perceived to be scummy...
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut
If you do play against SWF just hook one and camp him, his friends wont leave him behind. It'll give you a chance for a couple kills maybe. If you only get him and it turns out they don't care about him, at least you ruined his game like they ruined yours
.They are hard to beat sometimes but not unbeatable.
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just make two modes..a ranked mode where you can only queue solo and a non ranked mode where you can queue together.
simple
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@Legacy_Zealot said:
Now I don't want to encourage this playstyle because it is perceived to be scummy...buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut
If you do play against SWF just hook one and camp him, his friends wont leave him behind. It'll give you a chance for a couple kills maybe. If you only get him and it turns out they don't care about him, at least you ruined his game like they ruined yours
.They are hard to beat sometimes but not unbeatable.
If they are tryharding, there is no way you stand a chance unless you are a decent nurse.
But yeah, gotta exploit that over-altruism
Just prepare for the salt overflow after the match^^0
