Rank matters (vets only)

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Tsulan

@Lowbei said:
Legacy_Zealot said:

@Lowbei said:

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@RWoodrow said:

GrannyonAcid said:

Yeah. Enjoy it the way you want to. Play casually if that's what you're up to. And for sure the ranking system is terrible. A rank 1 killer going to survivor for the first time... Obviously they know how to play survivor. You watch people do it to you. It's not hard to mimic others gameplay. That's why I never understood why people take this game so seriously. I've watched 10,000 other survivors run the same loop as you do... Clearly I've learned how to do it. I'm not that type of player though. I just run and try to survive. If I die.. Then I die. Not a big deal. I mean how could this game even be considered competitive in the slightest. Could you imagine a DBD tournament being commentated. "Oh and the killer has caught one of the survivors finally! Oh crap! Even though the survivor made a mistake... He gets to decisive strike free. The killer is back on his trail. Oh he dropped another pallet. Oh and an instant heal has gone off! In the 1 minute and 20 seconds of this chase already 3 generators finished." After a few more minutes... "The killer is finally going to get a kill. He got him down! Oh three teammates are surrounding the killer with flashlights that instantly blind him so he cannot get a hook on him anyway. And the games over." There's like a lot of balancing issues with DBD before this could ever be considered "Ranked" play. So do your thing. You've only got 20 hours in the game. Well that means you'll improve. Even if you don't want to take it serious. Eventually you'll get really good. It's not a skill thing. Just about putting a little time in here and there.

There was an official tournament not long ago and the commentary was actually worse then you imagine it being.



TydeTyme also held a little tournament and it was really nice to watch.

It´s ironic, that a streamer can organize a better tournament than the devs.

agreed. the dev tourny was awful. thats what happens when inexperienced devs just pick streamers and randos to compete instead of the top level players, tho there were a few good players in it. tydetymes was far better.

Can anyone apply to be in these tournaments that the Devs host? Could be something 'fun' (used very loosely) to do.

unfortunately not the last one, but hopefully they learned from how awful it was that they need to make a change.

there will be open tournys soon with 10 dollar buy ins. unsure when tho

That would be actually nice. I love the idea of regular tournaments. That´s how R6 got big.

Lowbei

ZombieGenesis said:

The problem with rank is that it does matter...and it doesn't at the same time. It's this contradiction that makes playing this game so frustrating for some.

I think when people say "rank doesn't matter" it's because rank is so easily manipulated in this game. It's really not difficult to rank up and it's even easier to de-rank. So you have skilled survivors and killers purposefully deranking and playing with casuals and more average skill level players while you get casuals and average skill level players climbing up the ranks simply because they play a lot when, really, they shouldn't be. They've made "pipping" the goal of the game and made it such an easy to attain reward that that actually climbing the ranks requires more time than skill.

Also, this community(and others) have made the term casual an insult and a way to mimic and mock people. There's nothing wrong with being a casual gamer. There's nothing wrong with maintaining an average rank. Not everyone has the luxury of being able to play video games 8-10 hours a day. So people get defensive and inflate their actual level of skill, ability, and rank.

That said, there is certainly a difference between players that maintain average ranks and players that maintain high ranks. Maintaining high ranks(regularly achieving red ranks and staying the for the season) shows a level of dedication that inevitably leads to a greater level of skill. For survivors it could also be an indicator of being part of an efficient SWF group. The problem with those who maintain high ranks is that survivors have a lower skill cap than killers do. It's easier to maintain high ranks of survivor than it is killer. Sure, steamers will post their highlight reel on YouTube showing them 4King at rank 1 but watch those streamers play live. Players like HybridPanda, Tru3Talent, Boomer, and TydeTyme rage quit regularly as killers at high ranks because they're getting their asses handed to them over and over again by efficient survivors.

So does rank matter? It does...and it doesn't. It's like Forrest's mom used to say; DbD is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get.

accurate. that being said, we dont use the term “casual” to be derogatory, its just used to describe exactly what you said, players who dont have the time, or the want, to play at a high enough rank to become skilled.

Thetruth said:

@Lowbei said:
Thetruth said:

@Lowbei said:

GrannyonAcid said:

I totally get you. I'm 31 only. I think as you get older you start to realize things aren't as important. I kinda been like that since 25. I got [BAD WORD] tendonitis in my wrists. I can't be competitive at jack #########. If I play too much on the PC my hands go numb. So there's like no way for me to be competitive really. Kind of hard to be a top player at anything when you lose feeling in your hands.

I never played Overwatch. Wasn't my cup of tea. But League of Legends for sure. And everyone gets mad and flames once in awhile. But for the most part I never let any of that ######### get under my skin. It should be easy to understand that other peoples commitment might not be the same as yours. There's just also the fact that everyone 'has a bad game.'

I take a lot of breaks from DBD. Mostly for the reason that you were stating. I'll play for two months. Then people ruin the fun for me. I get to rank 1 and hate the game. It's legit not a fun thing to do. But I'm also not going to just DC over and over again or whatever people do to derank. DBD has literally replaced COD for me. That's why I used it as an example before. It's a game that you can just let your mind go numb and relax. Stress relief. It has that feeling to it. Or at least some people like me and you agree on that. Other's I guess take it way too serious.

You should add me on steam sometime and we could SWF or something. I'm not a great survivor. Still get rank 1 all the time. But my teammates probably hate me because I [BAD WORD] suck lol. - Granny on Acid - is my steam name.



you have a good attitude and i while i dont swf often (i prefer solo), i would be down to swf with you sometime, at rank1, where we can have a challenge :) 

Thetruth said:

@Lowbei said:

Thetruth said:

@Lowbei said: Thetruth said:

@Lowbei said:    GrannyonAcid said:

I wouldn't flatter yourself too much. Not sure where you get these facts that the average player is bad. I don't think it's possible to sit between rank 10-20 if you play on a regular basis. I started playing DBD again after a 6-8 month break about a week ago. Already at rank 5 survivor and like rank 7 killer. Pretty much every game is an easy pip. Ranking up as killer seems slightly more challenging. But possible. Either you face really good teams or really bad teams. There's no way that in a week of coming back to the game and not even knowing what the new killers do or the new survivor perks should I be high ranked like that. Every time I face a Freddy or a Pig I freak out because I have no idea what the hell they do. I haven't learned how to avoid dream state or how to avoid Freddy. I have no idea why this pig [BAD WORD] comes charging at me out of no where. Still game is super easy to climb. The people sitting at rank 10-20 are probably people that casually play the game. Maybe a few games a week. Anyone that puts any effort into the game should be rank 1. The point is you're not good for being high rank. All you have to do is play the game a lot and you automatically get rank 1. Killer might be hard to rank up if you're new at the game... But rank like 10-20 as killer is full of survivors that just get in a closet in front of you. So even they shouldn't struggle to rank up. Survivors you can simply rank up over and over again and never get chased. There's so many AFK generator players on the game. They rank up and just crouch walk around the map and hold mouse 1. That doesn't make them a good player. Guess all I'm saying is rank really doesn't matter. I find it hard to believe that I barely know anything about the game right now and I'm "Above average." I couldn't imagine playing the game for a long period of time if I never survived or never got a kill. So I really really really... Doubt that anyone that plays on a regular basis is rank 10-20. Face it. Most of you rank 1-5's aren't even good. Myself included right now. It's just that easy to get there. So no rank doesn't matter. spoken like someone whos never even played at rank1 (accurate based on your statements) and who has no clue that rank1 play is far more challenging than rank10 or rank5 even. no its not hard. no game is hard, however “more challenging” is a factor, in any game setting. this post is for vets, not casuals. i dont expect casuals to ever get anywhere in any game. when you become more experienced, this post will make more sense.

i fully expect the average rando to take offense to this post. looks like i was right.        lmao no its not. LOL at rank means anything in this game.  Even if youre at rank 1 which youre not youre trash regardless        lol everyone here knows i only play at rank1 on both sides, and youve been laughed off the forum numerous times for being a low ranked survivormain rando who begs for killer nerfs like you did about bbq in the other thread.

git gud I dont really beg for anything. The game like you is trash. The things I saw only get a angry reaction out of you which is hilarious. No youre not rank 1 but again rank is so easy to get in this game and even a garbage player like yourself should get that. Lol @ bragging to be good at a game like this hahahah

lol and this, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when the most casual bads get rekt on the forums, they claim the game itself is bad. feel free to ragequit at any time son.



Haven't been "rekt" at all. No doubt I'm better in anything I do versus you. Grats to being a "Vet" or a "Pro" on a game with maybe a player base of 200 players. Tell ya what though your anger is very amusing

lol the game has 15k online right now and hit a peak of 54k online a couple weeks ago. you are just salty that you cant compete. like i said, feel free to ragequit at any time son. i can tell from all your butthurt at this thread that you get rekt even at rank15, no offense

No such thing as getting "rekt" in this game. There is no competition in this game at all. Feel free to compete in a actual game that requires skill and actually has competition. Until then youre just a angry lonely garbage player

lol stop having a meltdown

lol stop thinking you matter and are good at this game

ive never said im good. good players dont call themselves good. i simply stated that i play at rank1, unlike yourself. its your butthurt subconscious that twists that into me claiming to be the best.

dont worry, you will get better at it with time, if you dont ragequit first, which sounds more likely judging by all your rage.

yeet

any absolute brainlet can get rank 1 as long as they play enough games

Lowbei

yeet said:

any absolute brainlet can get rank 1 as long as they play enough games

yeah. its those who stay and play at rank1 that slowly build skill. i think it should be harder to pip, on both sides.

Kalec84

Read the OP text, interesting, started reading the answers... not that much interesting...
For the OP
I'm rank 1 killer Main.
Totally agree that rank 1 is harder and (to me) it really count.
But i have to say, sometime (more than sometime) you find players who don't really seem to have rank 1 skill...
I just finished a rotation of all killers at rank 1 with no perks and no addons, and i menaged to have at least safe pip and 1k or even 4k (never 2 pip)
The fact is, aside for the "fact that i am rank 1" there is not much purpose to be there, wich mean it automatically became easyer to reach that rank.
Devs should make it more rewardin to be at rank 1.
I already gave some example in other topics:

-Killer and survivors at rank 1-4 get x% bonus to bp or even shards
-Killer and survivors at rank 1-4 get a particular effect on theyr character (glowing survivors eyes, dark killer aura, or a skin that can be used exclusively at that rank.
just those 2 things alone will boost the competition and give top rank a new meaning.
The key is to lock an interesting feature behind that rank.

And the next step is to make rank personal to each killer, i cant understand how is it possible that they admit "not all killer are good a top rank" but the rank is generalized for all killers, so if you are top rank with one of them, well you have to go top rank with all of them... that make no sense.

Lowbei

Kalec84 said:

Read the OP text, interesting, started reading the answers... not that much interesting...
For the OP
I'm rank 1 killer Main.
Totally agree that rank 1 is harder and (to me) it really count.
But i have to say, sometime (more than sometime) you find players who don't really seem to have rank 1 skill...
I just finished a rotation of all killers at rank 1 with no perks and no addons, and i menaged to have at least safe pip and 1k or even 4k (never 2 pip)
The fact is, aside for the "fact that i am rank 1" there is not much purpose to be there, wich mean it automatically became easyer to reach that rank.
Devs should make it more rewardin to be at rank 1.
I already gave some example in other topics:

-Killer and survivors at rank 1-4 get x% bonus to bp or even shards
-Killer and survivors at rank 1-4 get a particular effect on theyr character (glowing survivors eyes, dark killer aura, or a skin that can be used exclusively at that rank.
just those 2 things alone will boost the competition and give top rank a new meaning.
The key is to lock an interesting feature behind that rank.

And the next step is to make rank personal to each killer, i cant understand how is it possible that they admit "not all killer are good a top rank" but the rank is generalized for all killers, so if you are top rank with one of them, well you have to go top rank with all of them... that make no sense.

spoken like a wise vet. i think that its way too easy to pip, especially with swf the way it is, resulting in unskilled players in ranks they dont belong.

SanKa_Games

Oh, ranking system... In fact, rank doesn't mean anything for one player, because there are tons of high ranked dummies, who were just boosted by SFW. But rank does separate more skilled players from less skiller. Kind of... Current ranking system is purely "how much you play DbD" or "If you don't suck, you'll get to R1 eventually". Seriously, I see a LOT of people who have no coordination or skill at rank 7 atm. And I've played with these SWF boosted guys, who just keep dying and play wrong. they can't even hold killer in a chase while having sprint perks and their beloved DH, which is totally useful (sure).

Lowbei

SanKa_Games said:

Oh, ranking system... In fact, rank doesn't mean anything for one player, because there are tons of high ranked dummies, who were just boosted by SFW. But rank does separate more skilled players from less skiller. Kind of... Current ranking system is purely "how much you play DbD" or "If you don't suck, you'll get to R1 eventually". Seriously, I see a LOT of people who have no coordination or skill at rank 7 atm. And I've played with these SWF boosted guys, who just keep dying and play wrong. they can't even hold killer in a chase while having sprint perks and their beloved DH, which is totally useful (sure).

solo is the way to build skill, not swf, thus you end up with bads in ranks they shouldnt be. once players become skilled solo, they usually become extremely op in swf. swf should have less perks per number of players in it imo

The_Fallen_Utopia

I agree with @Lowbei on this one. I've been rank 1 enough times to see the difference. If anyone thinks rank doesn't matter or is trying to offend him on this then you're clearly too new at this game to have even hit rank 1. There's a reason why so many people derank and that's because higher rank usually means higher challenge. There needs to be rank rewards though so we can truely see who can get there and who is too bad at this game to reach it.. 

Undying_Zombie

I do have to agree with the OP that the gameplay is a lot different at the higher ranks. Most of the lower rank survivors despite how easy it is for them wont understand how it is for high ranks. Esp for killers. Most of them think its extremely east and that any sort of balance change the killers ask for is just killers wanting 4ks every game. It is frustrating and annoying that his keeps going on... and the devs/mods encourage it too... Sadly.

Lowbei

The_Fallen_Utopia said:

I agree with @Lowbei on this one. I've been rank 1 enough times to see the difference. If anyone thinks rank doesn't matter or is trying to offend him on this then you're clearly too new at this game to have even hit rank 1. There's a reason why so many people derank and that's because higher rank usually means higher challenge. There needs to be rank rewards though so we can truely see who can get there and who is too bad at this game to reach it.. 

agreed. i think rank rewards are coming as soon as the devs feel the game is fully balanced, but convincing “everyone” that its balanced, ever, will be quite a challenge.

pips should be harder to get, on both sides imo.

Undying_Zombie said:

I do have to agree with the OP that the gameplay is a lot different at the higher ranks. Most of the lower rank survivors despite how easy it is for them wont understand how it is for high ranks. Esp for killers. Most of them think its extremely east and that any sort of balance change the killers ask for is just killers wanting 4ks every game. It is frustrating and annoying that his keeps going on... and the devs/mods encourage it too... Sadly.

accurate. the devs need a team of the most experienced vets (not streamers) to help them balance. 

The_Fallen_Utopia

If people want to prove how truely skilled they are they should try reaching rank 1 as survivor using No Mither as their only perk.. that's a real challenge. As for killers.. playing without add ons can be considered quite a challenge now unless the killer is Nurse. And I agree with the idea of getting skilled players to help with balence and not some deranking coward on Twitch who plays SWF all day because they are too weak to play otherwise. 

Eninya

Rank doesn't matter. Purple plays like Red. The resets occur too often, and the Emblem system hands you ranking more than ever. The threshold for attrition is insanely low compared to literally any other game with a ranking system. Keep playing, and you'll rank up automatically.

This system is so dumbed down, it's easier to rank up getting 0-1K as a killer, and double pipping with 11-16k bloodpoints as survivor.

So, yeah. The systems in which this game use make rank not matter because it's designed to be that way. The old system for killers made more sense, and 10k BP/pip for survivors made it vastly more difficult to double pip.

Lowbei

Eninya said:

Rank doesn't matter. Purple plays like Red. The resets occur too often, and the Emblem system hands you ranking more than ever. The threshold for attrition is insanely low compared to literally any other game with a ranking system. Keep playing, and you'll rank up automatically.

This system is so dumbed down, it's easier to rank up getting 0-1K as a killer, and double pipping with 11-16k bloodpoints as survivor.

So, yeah. The systems in which this game use make rank not matter because it's designed to be that way. The old system for killers made more sense, and 10k BP/pip for survivors made it vastly more difficult to double pip.

you are correct but you must admit that competition is much higher level (usually) at rank1 than low ranks, resulting in more skill based matches. i completely agree about the old pip system and think the emblem thing is nonsense. i honestly dont even know or care how it works, i just play, solo, and it usually pushes me to rank1.

imo it should be much harder to pip.

Vietfox

The_Fallen_Utopia said:

If people want to prove how truely skilled they are they should try reaching rank 1 as survivor using No Mither as their only perk.. that's a real challenge. As for killers.. playing without add ons can be considered quite a challenge now unless the killer is Nurse. And I agree with the idea of getting skilled players to help with balence and not some deranking coward on Twitch who plays SWF all day because they are too weak to play otherwise. 

@The_Fallen_Utopia
The hag can easily do well without addons in rank 1 as well.

Lowbei

Vietfox said:

The_Fallen_Utopia said:

If people want to prove how truely skilled they are they should try reaching rank 1 as survivor using No Mither as their only perk.. that's a real challenge. As for killers.. playing without add ons can be considered quite a challenge now unless the killer is Nurse. And I agree with the idea of getting skilled players to help with balence and not some deranking coward on Twitch who plays SWF all day because they are too weak to play otherwise. 

@The_Fallen_Utopia
The hag can easily do well without addons in rank 1 as well.

im a big fan of the hag lately!

BoxingRouge

Good post! Someone needed to say this.

Vietfox

Lowbei said:

Vietfox said:

The_Fallen_Utopia said:

If people want to prove how truely skilled they are they should try reaching rank 1 as survivor using No Mither as their only perk.. that's a real challenge. As for killers.. playing without add ons can be considered quite a challenge now unless the killer is Nurse. And I agree with the idea of getting skilled players to help with balence and not some deranking coward on Twitch who plays SWF all day because they are too weak to play otherwise. 

@The_Fallen_Utopia
The hag can easily do well without addons in rank 1 as well.

im a big fan of the hag lately!

@Lowbei
I main her as a killer, she's quite powerful. Or at least suits my playstyle.

The_Fallen_Utopia

Lowbei said:

Vietfox said:

The_Fallen_Utopia said:

If people want to prove how truely skilled they are they should try reaching rank 1 as survivor using No Mither as their only perk.. that's a real challenge. As for killers.. playing without add ons can be considered quite a challenge now unless the killer is Nurse. And I agree with the idea of getting skilled players to help with balence and not some deranking coward on Twitch who plays SWF all day because they are too weak to play otherwise. 

@The_Fallen_Utopia
The hag can easily do well without addons in rank 1 as well.

im a big fan of the hag lately!

Hag is the killer I've played most actually. Even before her buffs I played her without add ons. At rank 1. A challenge yes but I won more then I lost. 

Lowbei

The_Fallen_Utopia said:

Lowbei said:

Vietfox said:

The_Fallen_Utopia said:

If people want to prove how truely skilled they are they should try reaching rank 1 as survivor using No Mither as their only perk.. that's a real challenge. As for killers.. playing without add ons can be considered quite a challenge now unless the killer is Nurse. And I agree with the idea of getting skilled players to help with balence and not some deranking coward on Twitch who plays SWF all day because they are too weak to play otherwise. 

@The_Fallen_Utopia
The hag can easily do well without addons in rank 1 as well.

im a big fan of the hag lately!

Hag is the killer I've played most actually. Even before her buffs I played her without add ons. At rank 1. A challenge yes but I won more then I lost. 

this pleases the entity. bravo

AshleyWB

The 3 gen trifecta is the key to edging past decent rank 1 teams. Patrol those gens and make them work for it. It does feel like a bullshitty annoying strategy but it's a trap that survivors could have avoided.

Peasant

@Lowbei As a casual player I can confirm that I am inherently bad. On survivor I can barely rank up, but given the situation (rank. 14) that's to be expected. Half of my allies are just incompetent and the other half want to stay in the low ranks and try to de-pip everyone else as an "act of kindness".

As a killer I'm just not ready. I main Huntress and my aim is in the middle of the spectrum. Some matches I 4k, others, the survivors 4k. I need to get better on both sides. It will just take time.

The_Fallen_Utopia

Peasant said:

@Lowbei As a casual player I can confirm that I am inherently bad. On survivor I can barely rank up, but given the situation (rank. 14) that's to be expected. Half of my allies are just incompetent and the other half want to stay in the low ranks and try to de-pip everyone else as an "act of kindness".

As a killer I'm just not ready. I main Huntress and my aim is in the middle of the spectrum. Some matches I 4k, others, the survivors 4k. I need to get better on both sides. It will just take time.

Practice makes perfect as they say. 

Lowbei

Peasant said:

@Lowbei As a casual player I can confirm that I am inherently bad. On survivor I can barely rank up, but given the situation (rank. 14) that's to be expected. Half of my allies are just incompetent and the other half want to stay in the low ranks and try to de-pip everyone else as an "act of kindness".

As a killer I'm just not ready. I main Huntress and my aim is in the middle of the spectrum. Some matches I 4k, others, the survivors 4k. I need to get better on both sides. It will just take time.

your wise and mature attitude is great. i applaud you, and am sure i will see you at rank1 soon.

Orion

I'm a casual by choice. I enjoy some challenge, but not the kind that forces me to be at 100% all the time or else I get smashed. That's why I stay away from high ranks.
I prefer to die a lot as Survivor because I'm not paying attention to my surroundings or lose chases because I didn't pay attention to blood stains than have to always be "on", if you know what I mean.
I simply find it more fun when I don't have to stay hyperfocused - maybe it's my ADD, I dunno.

If you find always having to play perfectly fun, that's fine, but don't say that "fun is ____" because it simply doesn't work that way; fun is subjective.

Lowbei

Orion said:

I'm a casual by choice. I enjoy some challenge, but not the kind that forces me to be at 100% all the time or else I get smashed. That's why I stay away from high ranks.
I prefer to die a lot as Survivor because I'm not paying attention to my surroundings or lose chases because I didn't pay attention to blood stains than have to always be "on", if you know what I mean.
I simply find it more fun when I don't have to stay hyperfocused - maybe it's my ADD, I dunno.

If you find always having to play perfectly fun, that's fine, but don't say that "fun is ____" because it simply doesn't work that way; fun is subjective.

absolutely.

your playstyle is perfectly fine, as you should play where you have the most fun.

for most of the vets who stay around rank1, the challenge is the fun, since of course it would be easier to farm bps at low rank, but i simply wouldnt enjoy it.

Orion

@Lowbei said:
absolutely.

your playstyle is perfectly fine, as you should play where you have the most fun.

for most of the vets who stay around rank1, the challenge is the fun, since of course it would be easier to farm bps at low rank, but i simply wouldnt enjoy it.

It's not even about farming, I just enjoy being able to relax while playing a game. I mean, that's why I play games.

The_Fallen_Utopia

Orion said:

I'm a casual by choice. I enjoy some challenge, but not the kind that forces me to be at 100% all the time or else I get smashed. That's why I stay away from high ranks.
I prefer to die a lot as Survivor because I'm not paying attention to my surroundings or lose chases because I didn't pay attention to blood stains than have to always be "on", if you know what I mean.
I simply find it more fun when I don't have to stay hyperfocused - maybe it's my ADD, I dunno.

If you find always having to play perfectly fun, that's fine, but don't say that "fun is ____" because it simply doesn't work that way; fun is subjective.

That's fine if that's how you want to see it. There's a difference in enjoying low rank play (more casual player) and outright denying that rank matters because you like to derank (No I'm not saying you derank I'm saying alot of people say rank doesn't matter as an excuse to derank) so you can bully weaker killers and farm views on Twitch or something 

Lowbei

Orion said:

@Lowbei said:
absolutely.

your playstyle is perfectly fine, as you should play where you have the most fun.

for most of the vets who stay around rank1, the challenge is the fun, since of course it would be easier to farm bps at low rank, but i simply wouldnt enjoy it.

It's not even about farming, I just enjoy being able to relax while playing a game. I mean, that's why I play games.

fully understandable.

Dragonredking

I agree but come on...
Not every one at rank 1 is skilled.

In the current pipping system ranking up is almost inevitable no matter if you are good or not.
Rank reprensent more how much someone play that their skill, while it is true that someone who play a lot is usually better than someone that doesn't, I've seen my fair share of garbage player in high rank.

But I'm behind you 100% about people avoiding the rank they where put in, especially streamer that people always end up emulating because they are sheeps.

Orion

@Dragonredking said:
But I'm behind you 100% about people avoiding the rank they where put in, especially streamer that people always end up emulating because they are sheeps.

Easier to make "funny" compilations showing you always winning if you're playing against complete noobs.

Dragonredking

@Orion said:

@Dragonredking said:
But I'm behind you 100% about people avoiding the rank they where put in, especially streamer that people always end up emulating because they are sheeps.

Easier to make "funny" compilations showing you always winning if you're playing against complete noobs.

Exactly

Crythor

Like in any game most players are bad. Its true that on avrage you get better players at rank 1 however that dosent make them all good players. Most people on rank 1 suck too. Rank 1 is just too easy to get. We have a ranking system witch has safety pips LOL no real matchmaking based at least on elo just players who are around our rank on avrage with a ranking system thats capped and easy to reach.

If you try to reach rank 1 and play enough during a season and you still cant reach rank 1 then you suck. ITs as simple as that.

Lowbei

Crythor said:

Like in any game most players are bad. Its true that on avrage you get better players at rank 1 however that dosent make them all good players. Most people on rank 1 suck too. Rank 1 is just too easy to get. We have a ranking system witch has safety pips LOL no real matchmaking based at least on elo just players who are around our rank on avrage with a ranking system thats capped and easy to reach.

If you try to reach rank 1 and play enough during a season and you still cant reach rank 1 then you suck. ITs as simple as that.

agreed.


we must remove the safety pip imo

SlothGirly

I think, the real problem with high ranks (4-1) is SWF, for example, the other day I was playing a lvl 1 doc for a daily tribute(note I'm a rank 3) not a single bloodpoint put into him; not an SWF group and I got an easy four irridescant game with 4 kills. The very next match, playing as my lvl 40 hag, against a full SWF group and I got stompped on. Endded up barely getting 2 kills (second guy l downed just before he ran out the gates. In terms of skill I would say both teams were the same. But the communication between them is what makes the high ranks so challenging. Atleast that's my view of it. Then again I am a console pleb so; it may be differant from platform to platform. However OP overall I see what you're getting at.

Bravo0413

In the current ranking system rank doesnt mean a thing... it's way too easy to pip... survivors who dont even know how to use the shack pallet are at rank 1...... its gross... you can climb from 13-5 in the matter of hours and this can be done by anyone because I dont claim myself to be an awesome player by any means... rank 1 is supposed to be the tip of the spear and atm its just a mixture of week 1 noobs and 1s the competition is nowhere near like it was and saying "rank1 btw" doesnt mean as much..

The_Fallen_Utopia

Bravo0413 said:

In the current ranking system rank doesnt mean a thing... it's way too easy to pip... survivors who dont even know how to use the shack pallet are at rank 1...... its gross... you can climb from 13-5 in the matter of hours and this can be done by anyone because I dont claim myself to be an awesome player by any means... rank 1 is supposed to be the tip of the spear and atm its just a mixture of week 1 noobs and 1s the competition is nowhere near like it was and saying "rank1 btw" doesnt mean as much..

If rank meant nothing then why do so many people derank? 

Terrortot

Lowbei said:

Warning. this thread will either make total sense if youre a vet, or upset you if youre a casual. if you find yourself getting upset about it, back up and recognize that it wasnt intended for you.

We regularly hear from low rank randos about how rank doesnt matter.

The truth however is that is does. The gameplay is far different at rank1 than rank15. At rank1, you deal with far more skilled players on both sides, who are bringing better items, using better offerings, and i see moris at least 50% of games.

The harsh reality is that the average player is bad, real bad. the majority of our population plays between rank10-20, however humans dont do well with thinking they are average. Its far easier to play at scrub ranks and tell themselves that rank simply doesnt matter, or that rank1 just isnt fun, which actually translates into “i get less points and survive/kill less at rank1”.

The result of all this, is that you see well known and even sponsored streamers DCing to play at rank15, because they can convince themselves and their followers that this is where the game is “fun”.

fun, means differnent things to different people, but for people who play at rank1, we play for a challenge, not SWFing down rank15 killers. if we didnt play for a challenge, we would be deranking to earn more bp per game with easier wins.

people need to start supporting actual skilled players, not these deranking scrubs. if the person youre watching is DCing, or running SWF and bullying low rank killers, stop supporting them.

if you like watching survivor gameplay, find some solo survivor, preferably one who plays with no items or offerings, or no perks even, and watch them. you will learn more, see better gameplay, and ultimately be doing right by the game and its community by not supporting bad streamers.

on a more personal level, if youre a player, stop DCing. get to rank1 and play there. your achievement for “getting there” means nothing. actually play there, for the rest of whatever season, and the next, and the next. you will be better for it.

if this thread makes no sense to you, or is offensive, then you do not play at rank1. you may have got there during a double bp farming event for the achievement, but you clearly arent playing there.

Tl dr. Rank is not relevant, swf can bypass rank and not every killer and at lesser extent survivor is on par for your rank unless you have everything t3.

Also, just literally playing the game will give everyone rank 1, you will also lose it the first game that depips you at rank 1.

Also, zero rewards and zero leaderboards. Rank is more useless than no mither.

Attackfrog

@Lowbei said:
Attackfrog said:

I gain blood points faster at lower ranks.

Lower ranks are better for leveling my killers.

And if the vast majority of players suck, and are at lower ranks, why not support the majority of the player base?

everyone gains bp faster at lower ranks. grinding shouldnt be your endgame, and after a few hundred hours, your focus should shift from grinding to fun/competition in this competitive game.

im not saying dont support low rank randos.  most low rank randos dont often stream at all. im saying that the people you should be supporting are the ones not dcing, and actually playing at rank1, because its better for you as a viewer to see real skill, than to watch deranked swf bully low level killers.

and again, if you are capable of playing at rank1, do that. you arent gaining skill by playing at rank15. bloodpoints come and go, they shouldnt be your focus. if your focus is bp, you probably arent really having fun, and definitely arent competitive.

im putting this out there to help people like you, who are content to a life of mediocrity (averageness) instead of reaching your potential.

I enjoy this game.for many reasons. The reason I keep coming back to it is the fun factor. Fun for me is 4ks, good chases, and feeling like a bada@@ killer.
At higher ranks I get more insults, more circles, more flashlights and toolboxes. I also find it more frustrating.

I am a more casual player for this game, and will most likely never reach endgame (unlike other games I play), but I believe casual players are the majority in most games (because that actually is what we consider "fun")

And game.time makes no difference to developers....They cater to the players that make the most sense: the ones that spend money. If you have bought all the content befor e, you will likely buy the newest release.

be more epic. i know its in you. no offense, but you people need to reach down there, find your balls, and use them.

Not if I am a woman. Or a Eunuch.

Boss

I guess rank does matter...in that way.

For me, getting to rank 1 isn't all that hard. A bit harder now that i've crossed over to Wraith, but still nothing like going through The Ringed City for the first time in Dark Souls 3.

What's hard is enduring the boredom that people resort to past like halfway.

Kalec84

@Terrortot said:

Tl dr. Rank is not relevant, swf can bypass rank and not every killer and at lesser extent survivor is on par for your rank unless you have everything t3.

Also, just literally playing the game will give everyone rank 1, you will also lose it the first game that depips you at rank 1.

Also, zero rewards and zero leaderboards. Rank is more useless than no mither.

Devs will make it worth more if many ppl ask for it but as long as ppl keep deranking (and i still ask, if meant nothing and is the same as rank 20, why de-rank?) they will ignore that...

The reality is that being rank 1 have a meaning, it mean you are more skilled than the average player, but in reality it "GIVE" you "nothing", except for an achievement the first time you reach it.
Devs should really give an incentive to remain at rank 1.

Just locking some cool cosmetic behind the "rank wall" (for each killer) will be enough, same with bp or shard prizes.

Terrortot

Kalec84 said:

@Terrortot said:

Tl dr. Rank is not relevant, swf can bypass rank and not every killer and at lesser extent survivor is on par for your rank unless you have everything t3.

Also, just literally playing the game will give everyone rank 1, you will also lose it the first game that depips you at rank 1.

Also, zero rewards and zero leaderboards. Rank is more useless than no mither.

Devs will make it worth more if many ppl ask for it but as long as ppl keep deranking (and i still ask, if meant nothing and is the same as rank 20, why de-rank?) they will ignore that...

The reality is that being rank 1 have a meaning, it mean you are more skilled than the average player, but in reality it "GIVE" you "nothing", except for an achievement the first time you reach it.
Devs should really give an incentive to remain at rank 1.

Just locking some cool cosmetic behind the "rank wall" (for each killer) will be enough, same with bp or shard prizes.

The best system i believe, would be broader ranks like in overwatch or lol.  Then people can complain about being in wood league feeling like they should be in grandmaster.

I dont think there is enough players across the board to warrant a rewarding rank system.

iceman2kx

I don't see why people think Rank 1 is this skillful achievement. If you know the basic mechanics of the game, it's very hard to de-pip. There is definitely merit in the statement, "rank doesn't matter". It's pointless. What benefit do I get for staying at Rank 1 as a killer? I can walk around with my chest puffed out saying, "I'm a real rank 1 killer!" That's it. No extra BPs, matches aren't longer (the opposite) and survivors are more competent on average. Why would anyone want to stay rank 1? I'm not saying this to burst anyone's bubble, but I am rank 1 right now and the first time I got to rank 1 was on a killer without finished perks. There is nothing competitive/skillful about it.

The truth of the matter is higher rank survivors are more boring to face. They know where every pallet is, every infinite is and how to optimize gen repairs. You can expect this every match unless you play against boosted survivors. Like you said, higher ranked people usually bring in their good items. This is true. I just want to casually grind BPs for the months of grinding I still have left and it takes a lot of the fun always going against people playing try-hard.

Kilmeran

@Terrortot said: The best system i believe, would be broader ranks like in overwatch or lol.  Then people can complain about being in wood league feeling like they should be in grandmaster.

And don't forget how they would be Grandmaster if not for their brain dead teammates and Leavers (speaking from 2+ years in Overwatch, never played LoL).

Another favorite: I'm really a Grandmaster. But this Plat account is my Alt Account.

megdonalds

@GrannyonAcid said:
Okay. Well it is clear that Lowbei has some serious mental health issues to work out on his own. For someone talking about other peoples egos... You sure as hell seem to have one yourself. I'm sorry to see that DBD has you so wound up in the competitive scene. That it doesn't have and never will. "Everyone here knows I only play at rank1 both sides." ... Like seriously? How many people here even know who the heck you are? Probably not many people.

Thank you @GrannyonAcid, i almost thought i'm the only one who found that out. Btw, he has a 24/7 job, just FYI.

Lowbei

megdonalds said:

@GrannyonAcid said:
Okay. Well it is clear that Lowbei has some serious mental health issues to work out on his own. For someone talking about other peoples egos... You sure as hell seem to have one yourself. I'm sorry to see that DBD has you so wound up in the competitive scene. That it doesn't have and never will. "Everyone here knows I only play at rank1 both sides." ... Like seriously? How many people here even know who the heck you are? Probably not many people.

Thank you @GrannyonAcid, i almost thought i'm the only one who found that out. Btw, he has a 24/7 job, just FYI.

if you are still this salty, post on my profile like the rest of them, but try to keep your personal butthurt against me off the threads bro, ty

megdonalds

@Lowbei said:
megdonalds said:

@GrannyonAcid said:

Okay. Well it is clear that Lowbei has some serious mental health issues to work out on his own. For someone talking about other peoples egos... You sure as hell seem to have one yourself. I'm sorry to see that DBD has you so wound up in the competitive scene. That it doesn't have and never will. "Everyone here knows I only play at rank1 both sides." ... Like seriously? How many people here even know who the heck you are? Probably not many people.

Thank you @GrannyonAcid, i almost thought i'm the only one who found that out. Btw, he has a 24/7 job, just FYI.

if you are still this salty, post on my profile like the rest of them, but try to keep your personal butthurt against me off the threads bro, ty

and that's the kind of ego push you need, to post on your profile. but the requirement for this is that i need to be salty first and baaam, gotcha again. im pretty sure you are fapping on your profile comments, don't you.

fcc2014

Matches are way more competitive on both sides, less dc's, fewer toxic messages, and no Ochi wannabes.