Yes, Springtrap Can Work in DBD
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Jesus Christ another springtrap thread this is what? the 3rd or 4th one I've seen in the past 2 days
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I'm pretty sure bhvr can make nearly any one work
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what I find fascinating with LITERALLY every of these threads is that while, okay, you people put thought into the perks, i very, very rarely see any actual thoughts on the actual gameplay.
You'd have a new RE chapter situation:
A killer with a lackluster ability and an obnoxious hard to navigate map.
you've seen how many people came in for RE, people who found that while the RE map is great, they'd rather play on other maps, and play other killers (jill and leon are fine though)
And that's the other thing: The RE chapter had its survivors and looks as a saving grace, fnaf can't offer that.
And again, I never see an answer to 'okay, so you thought about the perks, and map and cosmetics, but what about gameplay' in these threads, only handwaving, really.
Meanwhile you have potential killers like Candyman who could play similar to spirit and wraith when turning into bees, Sadako/Samara who could play similar to freddy/trapper leaving tapes that can serve as traps/teleport points, Lady D who could use her daughters to trap gens, lockers etc.
Also, don't you people think that if something gets added only so you bunch will finally shut up they'll put heart and care into it? Look, trickster and twins and nemesis are generally disliked, but you can see they tried.
Now imagine what you'll get if you pressure them into wasting money on a license just so you'll stop pestering them
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I still stand by what I said. That is way creepier than Trickster could ever be. Who cares if kids play FNAF? It's still horror and I think it would a great addition to DBD.
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I actually like Trickster, but I don't get why people hate on FNAF, then say Trickster is fine. lol
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Looks like a character that could work in DBD's environment.
Even if he didn't look scary, his background would be similar to that of Trickster. Sadistic serial killer who uses the screams of his victims for his music, and uses his kpop alter-ego as a mask of his true self.
By your logic, I can say that Trapper just looks like some big guy that got spikes stuck on his back. Maybe Billy is just some inbred. Or I can say that Bubba is just some fat guy wearing a mask that wields a chainsaw. But here's the thing: they have backstories. Springtrap is a literal child murderer stuck in a rabbit costume. If that isn't similar to how Billy killed his parents or whatever, then idk what to say man.
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Which is completely fine, it's not going to change my view on FNAF.
And that's your opinion. I disagree with it, but I respect it.
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Christ, literally every single Fnaf post is always a complete clusterfuck.
As for my opinion on this topic, I'd personally like to see Fnaf and Springtrap in this game one day.
I feel what many people fail to understand is that the Fanf community has matured. If these requests for Springtrap were being made back in like 2015-2017, yeah, I would completely understand not wanting Fanf anywhere near this game. Nowadays, though? The Fanf community is fine.
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In addition, the lore has confirmed, with Freddy's backstory, that the Entity can just GIVE and TAKE abilities to and from Killers as it sees fit.
"... His powers were tempered in some ways and focused in others..."
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It’s some of the least “horror” horror that I’ve ever seen. I don’t think it’s what Dead by Daylight needs.
I respect that you don’t find the Trickster creepy, I don’t particularly either but then again I don’t find any of Dead by Daylight creepy. I just think that he is a really great interesting character with malicious intentions and that is shown within him.
As for why I care that kids play FNAF, if Dead by Daylight introduced a FNAF chapter it would encourage those kids to play DbD. Which would easily worsen the game and community in my opinion. To me, FNAF has became somewhat of a joke due to the community and mess of a story, it’s one of the reasons I will not take it seriously as a horror game. By encouraging kids to play DbD, we’d just end up with silly, childlike interactions and influences on the game. We’ve got enough adults who play the game that act like children on a daily basis. We don’t need actual kids on top of that.
I’d also like to add that the FNAF games are rated PG-13/12+. Dead by Daylight clearly isn’t. It’s for adults. The age ranges for the two games don’t fit. It also explains why FNAF is not even scary.
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If you like/liked FNAF at any point, I'd disagree that you are "fine".
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“My logic” was me pointing out that Springtrap is not scary whatsoever. He shows no strength over others and does not insight worry, let alone fear.
As for the other killers you mentioned, they’re domineering, they appear stronger and are clearly unnerving and unsettling.
Also at least the Trickster has a set storyline. The FNAF plot lines are one big mess, they’re so convoluted that it would be very hard for a backstory to be established in regards to tying both Dead by Daylight and FNAF together.
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It's your opinion on whether of not you think he's scary. Not everyone shares your opinion. I personally disagree with you and there's those that disagree with me as well.
FNAF's lore is complicated but if we're basing it off the 3rd game then it wouldn't be that hard to put it together.
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So you can't have an interest that you don't like, got it.
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No you can, I'm not stopping you. You can like all the kids games and shows you want.
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That's not the point. You're insulting someone for having an interest.
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Okay, so a couple people are basing it off the third game? But what about those who don’t want it based off that one or disagree with the lore around it. There’s too much discourse around the story for it to work without people being unhappy with it.
When the lore has been fully established, and it’s correct, maybe ask for a FNAF chapter then, because I don’t think any dev team would want to deal with it until then.
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Not my fault you take it that way. I like kids stuff, Courage the Cowardly Dog is dope. You FNAF fans are the ones that get super defensive and triggered when people call out what FNAF is.
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Wow! So scary! I love it! BHVR please add this chapter, it will be a great addition. /j
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You literally said you disagree that someone is fine (which is an insult btw) for liking... ugh nevermind, it's worthless.
This whole thing is just a bandwagon honestly.
Also I literally said it's okay if you dislike FNAF.
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I get what you are saying, and yeah I am coming off as a dick, because It's exhausting having this conversation with the same small group of people on this forums multiple times weekly. With how EVERY thread turns out, (negatively) you would assume they would get the hint that majority of the player base don't want FNAF anywhere near DBD.
Yet multiple times a week you have these same people making the exact same post expecting different results, I think there's a term for that?
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Chill the hell out, mate.
What? Are you saying I'm not normal person because I like a franchise just you happen to think is "childish"?
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That's respectable.
However the threads themselves are pretty harmless, and you can just move onto another thread or ignore it. We get these about 1-2 times a week, they're not that common.
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Why Springtrap in specific, anyway? I've mentioned before I'm not really a fan of the series, but I have played the first game and watched Let's Plays of it. It's been a while, but if we have to have a FNAF chapter, I'd think maybe Foxie would work better since they SPRINT at you. I know they don't move if you're watching them, but them chasing you seems to make more sense than the other ones.
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I wouldn't say the majority of the player base don't want it. Tons of people don't even visit the forums, reddit, twitter, etc. Just ignore these types of threads if they bother you so much.
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No I'm quite sure its a majority.
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We really can't say. No way to back that up. Again, most people don't even visit the forums or other places.
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Why cant we just let people enjoy things that they want to enjoy. I think that some killers are good ideas and some are bad but in the end of the day BHVR will make it work. Let people make their own concepts and theorize about who they think is next. Just have some fun with it. thats why this post was created was to share ideas and thoughts and discussions, and the comments are just filled with bad intentions and vileness
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100% agree with this tbh.
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Tbh would be fine with him being ingame but I just hope his ingame design has more gore and blood compared to cannon designs.
Like William was crushed by a suit full of gears and springs then he was left to rot in a room for 30 years.
So if he does get ingame I would love his design to be full-on horrific.
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to be fair, it WAS a obvious bait.
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Imagine being bothered by what other people are thinking. Stay clear from threads like this then. Simple as that.
Don't get me wrong, I know there are a lot of threads about FNAF, but if not that it would be about something else. People want their favorite franchises to be included in the game, they want to speculate, they want to make cool concepts. It'd be like this with or without FNAF.
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I played only one FNAF game so I'm not a fan but ######### is this mentality?
FNAF is horror. Plenty of people who aren't "kids" played it. It might not be horror up your alley but it's still horror.
What I find most funny is that people hate the idea of FNAF, but would love a Scooby Doo chapter. Lmao.
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Full disclosure: I didn't read that full wall of text, just the first two sentences.
People are sharing their opinions, same as you and everyone else. Most people don't want FNAF, it's that simple. Having that opinion and sharing it is not being "closed-minded". I told you already that "open-minded" doesn't mean you automatically accept anything someone else tells you.
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I don’t really think that throwing knives were the best route for him. I know that throwing knives are part of his story, but then his main weapon is a bat? Yeah, I like his dramatic bat twirl after hits, but I don’t think it was the best fit.
I would’ve liked them to make him a fast knife killer, since that plays into his backstory, and gave him a perk that built based on survivor screams, maybe also a siren-style perk where he used music to disorient/blind briefly. I also would have loved a stage that was his production studio and started out looking normal but just got more and more ######### up as you came across his victims that he used for his music.
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This!
I get that people might not like a certain franchise, but why be rude to others and wish them not to be happy? DbD is one of my favorite games, because as a huge horror fan I love seeing it bring together all the different and unique franchises, and mixing them even with it's own stories.
Heck, I'm not the biggest Texas Chainsaw fan, but I enjoy having Bubba in the game. I might also not be as excited for Candyman if he's ever added, but if he is, I'd accept him with open arms.
DbD is like Smash of horror and I think exploring different tropes of horror is an amazing choice. It makes the game special.
Even the whole Trickster outrage made me question this community. I think he's super cool. I love his aesthetic. He's still horror. Maybe not in a twisted monstrous way, but he is. (I do agree that his power was a huge let down tho)
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Make it readable and I will. I'm not refusing to read it out of spite or whatever, I legitimately cannot read that thing.
Look at how I typed and how 99% of people type. We separate our points by paragraphs. This aids readability and makes it more likely that people will read your comments.
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I do understand. It's a game you like and you consider it horror. Since other licenses have been added to DbD, you want that one as well. I still don't want it.
Just because I understand doesn't mean I have to want what you want.
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Then I guess I'm not reading it. Why should I when you don't put in the bare minimum effort to make it readable?
Since we're on the subject of English, it's "commas". There is no plural in the English language that uses an apostrophe followed by an "s". Or in most languages, for that matter.
I understand English just fine (C2 here), but that's not the only thing that matters when it comes to readability.
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The thing is you and plenty of other people keep resorting to "we are just sharing our opinions, same as you and everyone else", but then keep pushing other people down for their way of thinking.
No one is saying you have to agree that FNAF should come to the game, but not trashing others for wanting it would be nice.
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Who's shutting you down? I'm addressing you, talking to you, the same way you're talking to me. What's the point of posting if you just expect people to never reply to one another, like we're all just shouting into the void? This is a forum, it's a place for communication.
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Where did I trash anyone? Where did I push down anyone?
Regarding the person I was replying to, I made a comment that put aside my dislike of FNAF, its supposed popularity within the DbD community, and everything else, yet I was still accused of "shutting down others" or whatever.
IMO, it seems like you just want everyone to immediately agree with your statements and support your ideas, no matter what their true opinions are.
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You're the one who essentially accused me of not knowing how to read properly, but I'm the one being condescending? Alright then.
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My bad there tbh. I was speaking generally and I wasn't trying to say you specifically are thrashing anyone. Bad wording.
But reading through these threads you see a lot of other people actually doing it.
And no one wants others to immediately agree with them. I'm not a huge FNAF fan. I played one game. But from these discussions I see FNAF fans or people who want FNAF being a lot more respectful. That's all.
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I already explained that I literally can't read that and told you that I hadn't read it, in the interest of being open and honest. Note that I haven't insulted you once, but so far you've implied I can't read and are now calling me ignorant.
My bad there tbh. I was speaking generally and I wasn't trying to say you specifically are thrashing anyone. Bad wording.
It's alright. English is a very simple language, so that stuff happens quite often.
But reading through these threads you see a lot of other people actually doing it.
I see a lot more people being reasonable, though.
And no one wants others to immediately agree with them.
I disagree. I've actually been put down, insulted, and so on, for daring to express that I don't want FNAF in DbD.
But from these discussions I see FNAF fans or people who want FNAF being a lot more respectful. That's all.
I don't.
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You called out my English first. Anyway, I'm done replying to you, this is getting off-topic.
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Everybody knows that he can "work" in this game. The problem is that we don't want him in this game.
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Seems fun ! The only perk i wasn't sure about is the Hex one, but i assume that if it get cleansed it's power is inactive and it cannot get back up right ?
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Simple fact of the matter is that people don’t want FNaF, for various (both legitimate and not-so legitimate) reasons. And there’s also people that do want it.
As for the “spamming the forums” thing, I’m personally also getting tired of the ever returning Chucky, Xenomorph, Candyman and even Jason threads. The arguments in those threads aside, that comes across as a little hypocritical.
Does it change my mind regarding those licenses? No. I’m largely indifferent towards any license that’s not included already.
Also, the “it’s for kids” argument. Yes, it has a younger audience, but you’re not convincing me there’s no actual kids in DbD. The themes in FNaF aren’t exactly for kids anyway, are they? I can’t say I know why it caught the attention of a younger audience (myself in my teens included, I’m 21 now), but how exactly is a child murderer “for kids”?
As for Springtrap’s design specifically, yes it’s a tad weird and not exactly scary. But is Wraith scary? Is Huntress? Hell, Nemesis, even? Intimidating, sure, but scary?
How is the consistent use of the uncanny valley effect of supposed child friendly animatronics to create relentless hunters not at the very least vaguely unsettling? You could argue that we’ve become desentisised, and that’s fair. But, then, nothing truly is scary anymore, so the whole “it’s not scary” thing is moot.
They also don’t have to use FNaF as their way into an animatronic killer. But, if they ever did an animatronic-esque killer that is not FNaF related, the outcry would be even worse.
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Jesus this thread has turned into something else...
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