Dear Behaviour... (David King)
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Thank you! I appreciate that. And everybody is a stranger at some point lol. I hope you’re also in a better place now or at least on your way to getting there. It’s a journey at the end of the day and not a race. 🧡
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yea this community had some good thread just not a lot.
btw I do like your story we all been there and a lot of LGBTQ play this games.
side noote I don't know about anyone else but I find survivors smiling like that creepy I see it a lot.😳
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All these stories in how games, characters and new lore help people or inspire to tell their own stories is amazing.
Sometimes you need things to relate to, to help you deal with what life throws at you.
Playing as Dwight has helped me embrace the geek and help my deal with my anxiety of being a geek and gay. I'm becoming less anxious of telling others yeah I love my video games at 33, still play Pokémon, enjoy my sci fi shows like Star Trek etc, play dnd and Warhammer.
Some people maybe part of LGBTIQA+, allies, straight, have different religions or different race. But we are all individual and all have our own journies and thats what makes us Human
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OMG WARHAMMER
Warhammer II is ######### great
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This is very touching, you actually convinced me with your story, that it actually matters.
Thank you.
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I love this. Thank you so much for sharing your story with us 💜
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This was a beautiful story thank you for being so Open and sharing this story with us much love to you my dear friend.
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Hello. I am happy that you found out who you are. <3 I found out when i were between 12-15 year old that i am not so called "normal" person. I've autistic (autism) and also felt that i were different and i notice that i also were into same gender as i am. (I'm gay).
However I am more fashion guy when it comes to characters outfits and it comes when i play DbD every day since i bought game and all dlc some months ago. (sadly; i missed The Stranger Things DLC because of late joining).
I play mostly with Meg, Kate and a few girl characters on survivor but i uses pride flags. best idea ever to put them in game. I play them mostly because as i mention above i love fashion and those survivors outfits suits me and my wardrobe. I wish however it existed some nice leather pants to someone. :)
OP: Thanks a lot for your post. It make me very happy and i support this to over 100 %. Wish you a happy life and find your partner one day.
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very wholesome to read and I think it’s great that you as a guy can play girl characters because they resonate more with you because of similar styles!
i really think BHVR are doing a great job in representing many different kind of people - even though there might not always be one perfect fit like in the case with OP and David.
btw i thought Kate has a pair of black leather pants, doesn’t she?
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I double-checked and it seems she have a pair of leather pants. :) I guess i were blind or something to not notice that leather set earlier. XD
Thank you, and i shall buy it when i can. :D
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I have nothing constructive to add to this thread apart from I feel 2nd hand joy for you, my allosexual fellow Brit
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has anyone fully read "the importance of being king"? I have and i loved it, it's definitely my favourite tome story with yui's / trickster's as a close second. As a fellow british gay man, I have to say, I couldn't imagine a better way for David's sexuality to be revealed.
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I read it day one. It is honestly possibly the best Tome BHVR have made to date, and if not the best it's definitely on-par with Plague and Twins.
Also, the ending is such a gut punch.
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These comments passed the vibe check. It's nice to see support coming from this community
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This is so sweet. <3 As a queer person, representation really does matter. I remember when I was in middle school, my first gay experience was Sailor Moon, with Sailur Uranus/Neptune, but they got censored into being cousins in the US. =( It could have been such a good thing seeing loving gay people in media, but instead they censored. I'm glad to see DBD, my favorite game, having a gay character. Especially since "gay" is not his personality trait, and he doesn't look sterotypical.
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Oh wow. That's pretty cool. I guess David King being gay here is a good thing.
I'm not really into the background stories. I just play the game.
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With today being the start of pride, I wish OP & all nothing but the best. Be sure to share the love this fine week, LGBTQIA+ individuals or allies.
Happy Pride! Celebrate who you are. The journey here was rough, but the horizon is clear. & for those of you who aren’t safe or comfortable enough to be out yet, you don’t own a thing to anyone. Remember our roots, & celebrate love this fine month! <3
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Great post.
The only thing that worries me about David's matter is... would have he wanted to be outted like that? I don't know... I mean, I wouldn't... "Oh, and by the way, he is gay". It feel like we didn't need an announcement, I would have loved it had it been different.
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Not really something that is really appropriate in this thread to ask as it’s not exactly on topic but eh i will try to answer:
David is a fictional character and the devs that made this announcement created him, so it doesn’t really matter if he wanted it.
the announcement was really mostly a follow up to their statement two years ago and it was them announcing the results of their collaboration with GaymerX. I do understand that it didn’t feel appropriate to announce this matter but there are reasonable arguments as to why they did it this way.
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Have to be honest my first thoughts were, is dbd's motivation a look at how inclusive we are, to boost revenue stream / reach out to an untapped market of gamers? But after reading your story Wrecked,(and the responses), I CLEARLY see the motivation was pure and beautiful. They (devs) want ALL to feel welcomed in the fog, as they should. That was the motivation behind the coming out of David. Bravo devs for giving representation to our gay gamer friends in the DBD community. I hope it inspires acceptance and kindness, as well as, Wrecked said, help youngsters to realize it's OK to be gay, so their formative years maybe aren't so rough. How about a Milo charm? Let's get that trending people, how cute is that dog!
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Absolutely agree we need a Milo charm.
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Some people are also just trolling and false flagging as well as internalized homophobia are actually pretty wide-spread. You don’t need to defend those people, they can do it themselves and by the latest reaction you should really be able to see what their intention was.
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Ah. Good point. If people are doing that here then all I can say is shame on them. Things like this deserve an honest discussion when it comes up. I'll try to keep a better eye out for people like that, though it may not always be an easy thing to see.
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Your "friends" and family were the guys who said "Noooo society is retconning your story to make you gaaaaay". As you said, you always felt something was off with the way you were living. I also had a similar experience, at age 28, just a few days ago, when I realized that if I took every kind of person I'm attracted to, most definitedly Heterosexual doesn't fit me at all. It's good that David's story fits yours so well, we need more of that kind of stuff in our games, movies, books, and everything.
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Let on, Wrecked. I read your post again today and decided to leave a nice word (and a little reaction) anyway. After all, it was one of the few posts that didn't cause me any anger outbursts at all. Quite the opposite. I think I understand ye. That is something that I 've actually been missing for a while. I 've once again been at war with my own ranks since the twenty-seventh of April and have finally reached the point of becomin more rational and understandin again. I think it has somethin to do with people who don't push and complain about representation, who just insult strangers because they have different opinion and all that. I perceived your post as grateful to BHVR, nothing more. And your experience made me remember some things. I think that if no one like me (people who still ride on two roads) really admits it, then at least I want to voice that here. After all, it is no secret that there are many different sides to the same experience.
To cut a long story short: It's a pity that there are people who would treat you differently only on your sexuality. That can put quite a bit of pressure on you and can definitely shatter an otherwise positive mood for somethin that you like, I know from my own experience. And I'm happy for you that you don't let yourself be put in a cage anymore. Honestly, I'm a bit jealous - personal trainer sounds mint. To be completely honest, somehow your post motivated me in some way to approach things differently.
I've always seen representation as a guide on how to recognise certain less obvious groups of people and it gave me stomach cramps to know that someone similar to me now also belongs in that "how to recognise xy" directory. I won't compare myself here, it's of no importance in this comment. Doesn't matter anyways and I don't mither. My point's I've screwed up quite a bit for myself. Didn't want to be pigeonholed with colourful canaries as well, without wantin to attack anyone here. This was, simply put, the wrong way to go. Seein it as a bad thing, just like a few other old-fashioned blockheads. And above all, to see only those well-hated entrenched extravagant extremes of stereotypes. I've never perceived representation to have any real benefit for individuals, say, in the way you present it, as sort of an fictional figure to help accept who you are. I'd prefer a few beers and a heart-to-heart with my best friend. But then, that's just me.
To each his own, I'm simply not the type to talk openly about it outside the internet. It's nobody's bloody business anyway. That doesn't change the fact that I misbehaved, in one way or another. Maybe not necessarily here and it just doesn't matter, but I want to say thank you for being open about your experience and all and apologise to anyone who has met me here or elsewhere in unfortunate circumstances. I am curious to see who will share memories in the lore next and how it will be implemented.
....If even one person holds it against me, however, I will drop in and it will be uncomfortable. I swear down!
Laters, guys.
Oh, and thanks for readin. It got a bit lengthy and hopefully not a pain in the arse to read.
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I feel happy for you, trully, although, at the same time, I feel sad for me. I live in a country where if you're a masculine gay man, you're not welcome within the gay community. In my country, we (me and you) are seen as "straight-people-pleasers". It is as if we're desperately seeking for heterosexuals approval. Being effeminate is almost like a prerequisite if you want to be accepted by your own community. It's really sad. I always thought that LGBTQIA+ meant, basically, DIVERSITY. Apparently I was wrong. When Behavior announced David as the first gay character of DbD, I was totally hyped. It's the first step towards a future where we won't be seen as straight-pleasers anymore, where people will understand that that is how we express ourselves... we like sports, we like jackets, we like motorcycles, we like rock, we like a lot of things that are considered "straight-men-exclusive" and that's ok. We're not trying to be accepted by the straight community... we're just trying to be ourselves. I got public humilliated in a gay group for saying that I do not watch Ru Paul's Drag Race. I was "?????????". Not watching RPDR does not mean that I hate drags or anything like that. It's just not my cup of tea. I prefer watching some strategy game, some fight, etc. Anyway... really happy for you, pal.
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@topic
...and that's how they made me have no main character.
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aww I am really sorry you have to endure this type of discrimination inside the LGBTQ+ community and this shows that representation really is something that can help in many ways and is still needed.
Okay? Do you mind explaining how this topic made you have no main?
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Oh no
Anyway
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Because you feel David is out of your league?
Don't be so hard on yourself :(
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This was pretty wholesome to read
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Thanks for all of the replies guys! Sorry it took me so long to reply, life has been chaotic at the moment so I've just not found the time to visit here much. I've been moving house on top of training with my clients throughout the week, so I haven't had much time for anything else lol.
I hope everybody is doing well and Milo says hi! 🐶
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Tell Milo I say hi back and if you can give head pats I would greatly appreciate it !!
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Oh wow, same here. I grew up without knowing gay exists. We didn't have the internet back then. I felt horrible for all my feelings, and I couldn't see any hope in my future, I even had suicidal thoughts multiple times. After I learned that there are people like me all over the world, I felt there's life I could look forward to first time in ever.
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This actually made me tear up a bit. Great post and I’m glad you’re in a good place today
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This is cute! Thanks for sharing, hope you're doing great today and this was a wonderful post to read!
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Lovely thread, didn't know that david was canonically homosexual, but i do like it when companies do thatvwith characters. And glad it helps you OP sorry to hear about the stuff you've had to deal with before, can't be easy
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It always matters
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I've been away from the forums for quite awhile but it's nice to see this post is still popular, it was really refreshing to read and see what a positive influence representation has on groups that often feel excluded (to phrase it politely) in media. A lot of people like to say representation "doesn't matter" but they're wrong about that. There is a bit of a caveat of it having to feel organic and be done respectfully to avoid coming off as lazy corporate pandering, but I think DbD did good on this and I was happy to read about how positively it impacted the OP.
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Whats that got to do with a 6 moth old post?
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Mandy has literally said she's pinned it to remind people of the importance that representation has. The post is up because it's about someone being happy about proper, good gay representation within media, and it clearly details exactly why it's important, hence why the post is still up. There haven't been any significant posts about it since to update threads to, so this is the most recent example we have of why representation in media is important.
Now you won't know this, because how could you, but for quite literally three and a half years before David King was officially confirmed gay (and for a month or so after that, too), there were bouts of what I came to call The Great Forum Representation Wars, where usual suspects would bring the exact same arguments to the exact same threads knowing neither side would change their mind. Essentially it was anti-rep vs pro-rep, and it would always end- every single time, with a moderator (be it Gay Myers, Rizzo, Washu, Mandy, or someone else) closing the thread and repeating that representation is important, that is BHVR's stance, and therefore the threads calling for no representation were pointless.
This post was pinned, in a way, to always give people easy access to it, to remind themselves and others of just why it's important to feel represented in media.
If you hate this story so much, and hate seeing it pinned, boo hoo. You can just unpin it yourself and move on with your life. But this post means a lot to people- absolutely OP and I'm almost certain other people too- and is a wonderful example to point to just in case we reach the Sixth Great Forum Representation War, and has still lasted less time than Orion's Wholesome DBD Moments Thread did.
So, once again:
pov you hate seeing people be happy.
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Ok, I understand your joy seeing the representation. However I don't think this is the best game you want to be represented in. We are talking about survivors being chased and killed by serial killers and monsters. I wouldn't like to be represented in this kind of setting. I think this is getting too much attention to be honest. So just take it and stop talking about it like it's a big deal also because I can see the majority of attention it's getting is negative.
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I don't see how the setting is what puts you off here. How is this any different from people firing guns at each other in other games (think Overwatch, Apex, etc.)?
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Horror is literally the breeding ground of queer representation. It had pioneered LGBT+ characters through subtext and then outright saying it for decades already and was far ahead of any other media.
"So just take it and stop talking about it like it's a big deal also because I can see the majority of attention it's getting is negative."
Well first of all it was actually received as far more positive than negative, but do go off.
And second of all, "just take your one single shred of representation, be happy, and go back into the closet" do you not realise how terrible that sounds?? When we have the G in LGBTQ+ and nothing else then there's still a massive way to go.
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And im so its still pinned up. Hope it stays for a long time. David's my main and always has been.
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Be yourself, I'm not homosexual but no one should ever feel ashamed of them selves,I always get made fun of because of my high anxiety and awkwardness so I kinda of know what you mean,I had to be forced into a role of street mannerisms to not be looked at as if I wasn't black enough for some people.When I realized that people really just don't give a sh about you in the end or they'll make fun of the next thing regardless,I became so much free'r if the people that I once knew want appreciate me then I rather be friendless.its better than having to play a role.
but there's nothing wrong with roleplay,if you're into that."Ladies" 😉
I totally made this about me, that's such a Legion thing to do haha,anyway take care.
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It will probably stay pinned forever. I don't see any reason why they'd unpin it.
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Actually, I really liked that David was "obviously" gay. As a bi women, I know gender and sexuality is a flexible spectrum, so it was nice seeing him on that "masculine" side of it. =)
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I hope it stays pinned forever, but I really wish the haters would just move on and leave this positive post alone. If you aren't happy with it, that's fine, but why try to rob others of this joy? What kind of person does that?
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