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Abondon this, abondon that
edit : hey guys the post makes a bit more sense WHEN YOU READ THE WHOLE THING not focus on what u wanna see -_-
why do some of u even play the game anymore?
i wanna abondon during the animation, i wanna abondon when the killer goes for a 4k
u only wanna abondon because u are losing and can't take the L
but u take your sweeeet time tbagging at the gate or just standing there for reasons? u are not wasting time then right?
i love how bhvr is slowly removing any satisfying aspect from killer but hey me watching the survivors bag at the door because i decided to play nicely so nobody dcs is fine
oh im sure u are saving precious seconds by abandoning , being toxic to the killer in end game chat and leaving because they are playing to win
i love how they added a finisher mori and just removed why anyone would use it lol oh but i watched that mori too many times, well yea i also watched survivors leave from the gate too many times but u don't see me quitting the moment the doors open….
i get it, slugging is boring, but im sorry letting the survivor leave the mili second they get downed? at least make it like 30 seconds or something
what if i wanna give hatch?
i swear there was a timer for a bit in springtrap release along with the afk system but just stayed disable or something
TL:DR let me feel like i actually won, this game is getting stale with the amount of "help" survivors are getting, if u wanna help survivors give them ways to communitcate not vc not allow sore losers to instantly quit as if rage quitting wasn't already a problem
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no.
gamers over move on
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but its fine if survivors stay in the gate until the timer, its fine for me to sit there waiting for them to leave, game is not over by then right?
im sure i can pull a blood warden by praying to the entity or something….
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The reason why I sometimes want to abandon is that I have very limited time to play the game and I don't want to waste time on the game that I 100% lost but go to the next game. I don't care about killer giving me hatch.
And I don't tbag or types toxic end-game chat
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The abandon feature is neither a ‘help’ for survivors nor a ‘rage quit’; it is simply a way to skip the whole pointless end-of-game procedure where you sit there staring at the screen and can't do anything because the Trial is over.
No one cares about staying on the ground for 4 minutes with the killer walking over you. Is that your concept of ‘taking the L’? Or maybe again seeing yet another Mori for the thousandth time, it's all wasted time.
I would also like to point out that once all the survivors have abandoned, the killer can do the same, saving time in turn, you are not obliged to deal with the bots.
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Partially I can agree, we already have enough for abandone system. And if all hooked, we don't wait anymore.
Something funny happened with me when I played with my duo. Wesker decided to fully commit to this match, proxy camped, did other stuff to constantly put pressure and whatever.
And then he slugged me for 4k, my duo was hiding and we decided to wait me to bleed out. And before timer left, killer… changed his mind? He left us to do left gens and game finished as tie.Abandon already force many situations that kills potential of comeback or exclude decition to spare. I had games on killer when decided to give person hatch, but he DCed. I had games when slugged guy DCed, later it turns out his team played well and the only reason they lost was that he left them for nothing, forced to deal with 3 vs 1 vs bot.
It's just an emotional moment people follow. And that’s fine. But encouraging this system is kinda unnecessary. I think if we are about to allow further dc, for survivors it should get as voting system where during 30 seconds majority should decide allowing it or not. If it's a tie or majority against, survivor should stay or forced to get a more strict ban timer for matchmaking . We’ll playing in team after all.
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No, the Killer should be absolutely able to abandon when the gates are open too. Literally no reason no to allow that since it just forces the escape they’re putting off anyway.
When I’m slugged on the floor while some selfish bozo is running around the map to find the fourth Survivor, I’m not actually playing the game, am I? I’m just having my wait for the next game artificially extended because some clown can’t just take the win like an adult.
You’re acting like this is an Us vs Them situation when it’s not. Stop starting fights with other players, and redirect your complaints at BHVR.
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i said a 30 seconds timer would be fine, if 30 seconds passby the killer still didn't hook or mori u can leave
nobody said 4 mins of bleeding out, even i wouldn't want that
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not making it us vs them, im stating the obvious, and i said 30 seconds is more than fine, after 30 seconds they can quit
and this idea of the killer being able to quit after the gate open already been suggested and will get ignored for a while since they are focusing on survivors atm
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couldn't have said it better myself <3
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but u take your sweeeet time tbagging at the gate or just standing there for reasons?
u are not wasting time then right?Of course that's wasting time. When I'm playing survivor I might stay if I'm trying to squeeze in a few more altruism bloodpoints by healing someone or letting myself be healed or if I feel like I might need to try and rescue someone but otherwise yeah, I just leave. I don't feel the need to be a sore winner and I don't tbag at the gate.
i love how they added a finisher mori and just removed why anyone would use it lol oh but i watched that mori too many times, well yea i also watched survivors leave from the gate too many times but u don't see me quitting the moment the doors open….
Why does it matter if the survivor has to stay and watch the mori or not? Kind of feels like you're saying it's not satisfying unless you can rub it in.
what if i wanna give hatch?
In the month or two I've been back to this game I have not seen a single killer try and give hatch in any of my survivor matches. The finisher mori system has effectively killed that practice already. The abandon system is just putting it in the ground.
TL:DR let me feel like i actually won, this game is getting stale with the amount of "help" survivors are getting
Abandoning a match doesn't help the survivor - they lost. It doesn't turn that loss into a win.
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I know how frustrated it is when u wanted THAT survivor for last and give him Mori, but they just abandon.
I bought this skin to brag off and share this moment with u, eh, and u just left me with this silly AI😔
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you end the match anytime you want, just push them out the exit
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They should add abandon options for killer
Final gen completion would be a great mile stone
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You never played surv or what, they did this because some killers were just slugging the full 4 minutes timer for no reason… it's one of the best QoL changes in recent years… abandon means the last 2-3 survivors are slugged or on hook, it's already over don't be a sore winner
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literally barely touched killer lol, and if u actually read the post u would realize i said a 30 seconds cooldown before allowing quitting would be fine
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im not talking about the healing, if u wanna heal in game go ahead, im talking about the people who stand there for the whole timer
rub it in? im sorry is it hard to ask for me to feel like i won after a long hard game? is that just not a allowed in a pvp game anymore? and its fine for the other side to rub it in my face but its ilegall for me?
In the month or two I've been back to this game I have not seen a single killer try and give hatch in any of my survivor matches. The finisher mori system has effectively killed that practice already. The abandon system is just putting it in the ground.
agree to disagree, i had plently of killers give me hatch, maybe just a server prefrence or time of playing
Abandoning a match doesn't help the survivor - they lost. It doesn't turn that loss into a win.
finish the line lol.
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you are missing the point..forget it
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its not even about the mori, i sometimes just wanna down a survivor and pick em up to give them hatch, can't even do that anymore, its removing the choice of hatch, is it really hard to ask 30 seconds of your time to slam dunk u into the hatch :(
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That their lose, so I don’t care that much.
Funny how as soon as I messaged this that’s made few people upset and urged to downvote, but as soon as situation opposite and they happily click click on gates “u have to push them off to the gate, that’s not problematic”
While they can keep few sec of Mori and dc monetary they can’t hold L.
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nah clearly its only fair for one side to be able to quit after the game is "over"
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its always been like this
when the killer does something its bad, and not ok, and why are u BMing, and slurs and you know end game chat lol
and when survivor does it, its funny and cool and you should just chill out, its just game
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im not talking about the healing, if u wanna heal in game go ahead, im talking about the people who stand there for the whole timer rub it in? im sorry is it hard to ask for me to feel like i won after a long hard game? is that just not a allowed in a pvp game anymore? and its fine for the other side to rub it in my face but its ilegall for me?
I never said it was fine for survivors to rub it in at the exit gate and I said I don't engage in that behavior. Just so I understand you - are you saying you don't feel like you've won a match unless you can force the last player to watch your finisher animation? Why, if not for the desire to rub it in?
If I have an aggravating match with a group of survivors that I'm almost certain will be furiously tbagging at their opened exit gate I just don't go over or if I'm already there I start hitting them and give them a reason to leave. If I'm not there I go break any unsafe, dropped pallets and breakable walls that are left for bloodpoints or something. If I'm playing killer I can do whatever I want - it's not like they can down me or stop me in any way.
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”Killer side forum”
90% of people who messages about how bad killer side is have the most up votes in their profiles here.
I see how it’s killer sided when whole army of down votes ghosts wander from one post to another, seeing your killer pfp and an opinion that does not coincide with their own.
At the same time, they are too lazy to read the entire thread and under your comment, three similar responses are collected, even when u answered before on this.
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Just so I understand you - are you saying you don't feel like you've won a match unless you can force the last player to watch your finisher animation? Why, if not for the desire to rub it in?
its more about the choice, i sometimes wanna give hatch i sometimes wanna mori, and its not rubbing it, its more about learning to take the L, i lose and i have to take it, survivors lose and they have the ability to just skip it?
me being denied both of those feels like the game was just pointless, and i always just say ggs tbh, just to have 4 survivors scream at me because i uh "camped" they were healing underhook
reminds me of the ow players who use to quit right before the defeat screen or right before losing lol
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The only thing that doesn’t settle right with me is that a player can abandon during a Morí. That needs to change.
The abandon feature might need some tweaking, but it’s better than nothing at the moment.
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Why one side can press one button to not bother themselves with anything, when for other it considers unimportant?
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glad someone else beside me sees it
I see how it’s killer sided when whole army of down votes ghosts wander from one post to another, seeing your killer pfp and an opinion that does not coincide with their own.
how dare u have an opinion that isn't "nerf this killer" nerf this perk, even if that said perk or killer aren't broken or op
its kinda of getting stale, i still don't understand why the downvotes were even brought back, they do nothing but fuel the whole toxicity in these forums
At the same time, they are too lazy to read the entire thread and under your comment, three similar responses are collected, even when u answered before on this.
let's be honest most people read the title, read the one part they wanna read the negative part, reply to it and downvote
anyone else who tries to make proper convo just gets downvoted
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I don't understand this because we have this idea that most people play killers, and about half of the fandom plays both roles. I don’t say some killers here aren’t providing worst stuff (like that post about med kits few days ago), but at least I don’t see that widely spread “u are just surv mainer that’s why u have a bias” that often
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There's no reason why someone should be forced to stay and waste any more of their time for your own amusement. So likewise, I think it's fair if Killer has the ability to abandon once the gates are powered as well like you mention.
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Yes, I want to abandon when the Killer is slugging me for the 4K. They are wasting my time just to prolong a game they already won. And there is not much I can do about it, other than what the Killer can do when Survivors wait at the Exit Gate.
And no, this is not because I cannot take the L. But the game is over and is only prolonged because one player wants to win more. And they can also do this with my Bot on the ground.
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i wanna abondon during the animation, i wanna abondon when the killer goes for a 4k1: What's the point of staying around for something that has been seen before?
2: Why does the killer need them to stay around?
u only wanna abondon because u are losing and can't take the LWhy does the killer need them to be present? Can't a killer just take the win without rubbing it in?
but u take your sweeeet time tbagging at the gate or just standing there for reasons?u are not wasting time then right?Likely different groups of players. Every time I can recall the idea of tbagging at the exit gates coming up on forums people say 'don't do that'.
Implementing an abandon system when the exit gates are opened (without any other requirement) would have far more of a game impact than abandon when all survivors are downed/slugged/dead. That doesn't meant it shouldn't be done, but the two things aren't comparable.
i love how bhvr is slowly removing any satisfying aspect from killer but hey me watching the survivors bag at the door because i decided to play nicely so nobody dcs is fineAgain, why does the killer need the survivor to be present after the match has been decided for it to be enjoyable?
oh im sure u are saving precious seconds by abandoning , being toxic to the killer in end game chat and leaving because they are playing to wini love how they added a finisher mori and just removed why anyone would use it lolSo survivors abandoning because they don't want to watch the animation is bad because the killer gets no enjoyment out of the animation unless he knows the survivor is also seeing it? That makes it sound like killer also doesn't want to watch the animation, he just wants the survivor to have to be there for it.
i get it, slugging is boring, but im sorry letting the survivor leave the mili second they get downed?at least make it like 30 seconds or somethingIf its pointless after 30 seconds, it was almost certainly pointless for the 29 seconds before that.
what if i wanna give hatch?1: If this discourages a practice that throws off stats, good.
2: How is the killer player harmed by not getting to give hatch?
TL:DR let me feel like i actually won,TL:DR why the need for the survivor to be present? You say survivors don't want to take the L, you don't seem to want to take the W.
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Here's what they should do. Remove the leaving notification. And bot tag line from the game. Ignorance is bliss. Clearly people have issues with bot players while It does little to irk me I know my opinion is just my own. But literally what does the killer gain from knowing last two players left early? If they still want to play out some fantasy let them. You I can see a good argument for allowing the notifications during mid game but specifically at 2-1 survivors just let the killing have fun thinking they are "showing that survivor who's boss" extra bonus if it's a shadow fix with no patch notes
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I always hated about the abandon feature the instant the survivor is down they can abandon the match to save a few seconds. Meanwhile the killer is forced to wait while survivors can sit at the gates and tea bag. Sure can force them out, but why the hell should I feed their ego. If the gates are open the killer should have the option to abandon as well. I don't know where any survivors are at, no one on hook I have zero pressure just let the killer abandon match at that point. Feels hypocritical for one side to be allowed to abandon the instant they feel like it while the other forced to wait it out.
If anything put a 30 second timer before the abandon feature is available if the killer isn't hooking anyone and everyone is slugged.
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I mean it’s killing, of course the main point to show it for your opponent. Better bring insta kill then, killers see their own mori even more often than survivors, so of course this animation is meant for both players.
As well as people won’t tbag or aimlessly stay on gate to keep wasting time until their target see this and push them out. It’s a way to show your win that game allows u to do
It’s not harmed or else, just question why one role can dodge this while other need to a) waste time pretending to ignore when you realize what they're doing. b) doing something else c)force yourself to pushe them out of gate warching absolutely same cycled animation of crouching.
It works in both sides, but somehow applies to only one
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Because people don't have time to waste
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clearly they do when they sit around in gates lol
its only a waste of time when the killer wins right?
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a) waste time pretending to ignore when you realize what they're doing. b) doing something else c)force yourself to pushe them out of gate warching absolutely same cycled animation of crouching.
A slug has basically none of these options. They can't get away from being humped for 4 minutes (so can't "ignore" with a), they can't literally do anything (option b), and can't force the killer to stop what they're doing (option c).
Hope that clarifies things for you.
Because if you're arguing that these should be "the same" then maybe you should ask yourself why not give the survivor the option to injure, and down the killer with the chance of turning that into an escape. Because the equivalent option of injuring, then downing the survivor with the chance of turning it into a kill exists base kit for the killer.
And btw, "just hit them out" is BHVR's official stance on this also. So they recognize the killer has agency here still.
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if time is so precious that you can't wait a few seconds should you really be playing a video game then?
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Your not suppose to give a hatch to a last survivor, it means you are not playing game correctly and it's bannable, other can clip it and send to devs it's better for them to just abandon
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uh….what?
giving hatch the last survivor is bannable?
i get ganging up against a survivor with the killer, im sorry is can u show anything that is said by the devs confirming this because i feel like u just kind made it up lol
even streamers do it, and they wouldn't if it was bannable xd
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I’m not hard slugging for 4k in 95% of my matches. I only slug when know survivor location already or he really was disappointing me and I tries to give hatch to slugged survivor instead of last stand one. Or it was sfw and I feel I pretty deserved my 4k.
I am up to gambling hatch, don’t camp it and nicely give people some chances if can’t find them in minute when 3rd survivor is down. So, your considerations don’t usually applies to me.
I also proposed voting system for abandoning, so their teammate can decide will they rescue them or not. Approving this gives free abandon for poor soul, killer realise teammate won’t save the bot and hooks them. Almost insta hatch gameplay.
I had situations in endgame where I were able to save slugged guy cause had build for this, but they dced out of frustration. It was several times. If we are really wants to give survivors anandon for every reason, we have to do vote system because it’s 4 people in team.
This OP post wasn’t about slugging for 4k. It’s about free insta abandoning cause people can’t stand moris while killers can’t do the same. U happily ignore other situations and focus on most convenient to justify opinion.
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Yep it's bannable, ask mods
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You don't even have to think about it because it's wrong. Say you tunneled two survivors from the start but decided to let the remaining two (or even one) go, do you think that was the right thing to do? Ofc not and pretty sure it's killers fault and he should face consequences
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U can close this hatch and even deny it. This is the game. It’s not bannable not letting people win until u don’t use cheats, what’s your point even. Survivors rule book don’t define bans
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Literal nonsense
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I mean it’s killing, of course the main point to show it for your opponent.I've tried editing my response a few times, but there's no way this can be said without being blunt.
If you want to celebrate after a win, no problem. If you need the opponent to watch your celebration for it to have meaning then you are more interested in their defeat than your victory.
killers see their own mori even more often than survivorsGood news, killers can abandon too after survivors have abandoned if they are bored of the mori! Everyone wins!
As well as people won’t tbag or aimlessly stay on gate to keep wasting time until their target see this and push them out. It’s a way to show your win that game allows u to doAnd survivors shouldn't do it and the killer shouldn't have to deal with it, there just isn't as easy a way to address it.
It works in both sides, but somehow applies to only oneBecause its an asym and each side is radically different.
When all the survivors are down, hooked, or dead, the chance of the survivors making any sort of comeback is microscopic.
There is not as easy a line to draw for the killers. Kills are still frequently achieved after the gens are powered, even kills after the doors are open is not at all unusual. Kills when the survivors are right by the exit itself are extremely rare, but its much harder to draw an exact line on where that should be and it would be very easy for people who want to BM to circumvent it.
A killer abandon when doors are powered would be a substantial increase in the abandon system. And some people are okay with an increase in the system, but it wouldn't at all be comparable to what the survivors currently have.
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whole victory is about defeating opponent, since when we condemn people for demonstrating this victory for others through the system that was introduced by the game itself? Mori isn’t something created by killer players, yet people actively dodge it and JUDGE when other people point on it. Like u are right now
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Yes, most people dont even have time for a video game
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Only if you purposely avoid that survivor and target the others. It falls into the "working with the opposite side" category
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No, it's you are refusing to kill survivor, killers job is to kill, if your not doing so you are griefing, being unsportsmanlike and it's violates game rules. And if we remember correctly devs said to killers that they can farm if they didn't killed anyone (only kill them if they point at hook), but if you kill 1 or 2 and then farm with rest of them (also you are manipulating mmr like that) you are definetly breaking game rules
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