MoM nerf it's unnecessary and unfair
I don't know why devs think the only way to get the game balance is nerfing survivors over and over. They gave to killer main community the DS nerf after almost 3 years complaining about it and now they want to nerf a good perk that helps us to get a second chance since DS is a ######### now, only because some people are unable to deal with it in their matches or they're bad at chases or they don't use their M2 and they only complain about it instead improving as killer. (I play killer too and MoM is never a issue to me, I can catch them quickly)
Please devs, MoM's nerf can never happen. The perk is good as it is now. Stop listening only one side of the community.
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I knew this was gonna happen, okay.
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They did stop listening to only one side. It used to be survivor only. Now they are listening to both sides, as seen by DS, MOM and Legion changes.
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They're nerfing a badly designed perk, not survivors, whatcha on about?
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ever played a M1 killer (e.g. Wraith) against a Mettle of Man user with an insta heal?
no?
i thought so.
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Looks like those who run the perk are the ones that suck at chases because they need second chances...
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Yeah... I don't think so. Legion nerf is the only major nerf to killers since a long time. I can tell you a lot way more survivor nerfs.
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Looks like those that suck catching survivors want the perk nerf instead using their M2. The same ones who cried for 2 years here and in Reddit about DS lol
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And so? That's not a good reason for nerfing it. Use another powerful killer and not all ppl run MoM or Insta so...
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that, my friend, is not how balancing works.
"just play a different killer" is not the kind of counterplay that should be suggested. every killer needs a fair chance to handle this perk.
the same way i could answer to you to just stop running the perk, so you dont have any reason to complain anymore. does that sound like a good argument? no.
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Well yeah, we cant have Survivors having powerful perks that are actually worth taking oh no no NO that 'privilege' is reserved for Killers.
Another Survivor perk for the shelf. I swear Killers won't be happy till Survivors spawn already on the hook with a 0.0001% chance to de-hook themselves in a 1 Survivor vs 20 Killer match and 0 perks while Killers spawn with all perks maxed out.
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Making the perk work in dire/situational moments is TOO MUCH! Dev's are killer mains LUL \s
Gotta love the toxic survivors who go out of their way to bully, its like the perk now forces you to be a hero to actually run this perk
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"Looks like those that suck catching survivors want the perk nerf instead using their M2"
First of all, M2 attacks dont counter the perk, only chainsaws counter the perk.
Second, how is It that the guy who downed you is the one that needs improving and the one using such powerful advantage like a second chance is the skilled player?
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Killers having powerful perks in general is logical, they are alone.
Survivors are a team of 4, if you give 4 of them a powerful perk it quickly becomes a shitshow like with old DS.
Baffled that i need to actually explain this @SlinkyJinky
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Guess what? Not all killers are viable. Never all killers will have the same chance bc of that. And I didn't said that, devs did. If you wanna counter it you have Billy, Huntress, Plague, Leatherface or just be good at chases.
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Yes, I just chase them down and hit them again because pointing and clicking a mouse is not hard.
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If this nerf will make me see less of Billy (doubt it) then I’m all up for it.
Sick and tired of hearing chainsaws at the start of the match.
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Guess what? Not all killers have to be viable. Devs said it, not it. You can be good at chases or just use M2 killers like Billy
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Exactly, thank you. You got it
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Hell yeah I'll use Wraith's M2 or Trapper's maybe even Pig. Oh wait....
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Here... I feel for you... This is for you...
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When they run all the survivors off to other games the only ones left will be killers. Make a new game mode called killer vs killer to keep the game alive. They can kill each other with NOED and BBQ
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Exactly, this is why I dislike the fact that the Dev's allowed the survivor mindset to sit in place for so long (aka the survivor should always be able to 1v1 a killer, its suppose to be 1v4 )
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And devs that they want us to play like cowards, i mean, stealthy. They gonna kill DBD if they only listen killer mains
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I don't know why survivor mains think the only way to get the game balance is by having multiple 2nd chance perks to get away from the killer when caught over and over. They gave to survivor main community the Benny Hill killers for almost 3 years never complaining about it and now they want to cry about another nerf to another a stackable 2nd chance perk that helps them to get a
secondthirdfourth chance since DS is still commonly used, only because some people are unable to deal with it getting caught in their matches or they're bad at chases or they don't use mind games and they only complain about it instead improving as survivor. (I play survivor too and MoM is an issue to me, I can catch 1 non-MoM/DS/SB/BT/Adrenaline quickly while the rest need to be hit 4+ times, by which point a competent SWF with VoIP already has 4 gens done)Please OP, MoM's nerf needs to happen. The perk is too good as it is now. Stop trying to bring back the "good old Benny Hill days".
Fixed for accuracy.
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Are you just gonna ignore the fact that Enduring + Spirit Fury is a combo? You need 2 perk slots, unlike MoM.
Now, Enduring + Spirit Fury can be countered by any survivor using any build, just throw the pallet down earlier, simple as that.
In conclusion, you cant compare MoM, which is a single perk without any counter if you are playing a M1 killer, with Enduring + Sirit Fury, which is a combo of 2 perks that can be countered by any survivor at any time.
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I'm sorry, is the Wraith, Freddy, Doctor, and Hag supposed to just bend over and forced to work harder with no counter play whatsoever? Fortnite is a pretty swell game always looking for new players!
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I only see complains here, not arguments, typical of killer mains. Mom is a good perk for getting a second chance when you make a mistake at chases (we aren't perfect players you know?) but then you complain because you can't catch a guy with the perk and then you tunneled him until the end of the match and then you complain in end game chat about SWF's or you're just too lazy to hit M1 two times. Or also DC before survivors can escape, like a lot of my matches as survivor
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" Mom is a good perk for getting a second chance when you make a mistake at chases"
Yeah this is the biggest issue, you have too many no skill free activation perks.
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That's not totally true. Killer are more powerful than survs, and a survivor is a person who want to have fun, and want to escape. Killers want to balance to do 4k at least 50% of games, perhaps 3k 30%, 2k 15%, 1k 5% and never makes 0k. This is for a person playing in his house less than 2 escape in 10 match, and I don't think this is balance.
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You had the MoM problem in 1 of your sentences.
Its rewarding players for failing.
With no counterplay for every killer.
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Its totally fair and necessary
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I wonder if the Survivors will once again be able to cancel a nerf using backlash and negative reviews.
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The fact that you made a mistake shouldn't give you a benefit! You made a mistake you should suffer a consequence not a reward.
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MoM needs a nerf, but not give the killer 3 free hits
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I...didn't bring up anything like that at all.
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That's usually the way it works.
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When you are a killer you are punished for not applying gen pressure. So why should survivors get a second chance? You have DS, DH, and Deliverance and you want more? How would you like it if the killer was garbage and you finish a gen but his perk prevents you from completing it and it resets to zero. If you fail, you fail.
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Hey, it worked with killer mains crying in Reddit a lot about DS to get finally nerfed. Maybe we have a chance ;)
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Counter: NOED, Billy, Huntress, Plague's Corrupt Purge, Devour Hope, Pig's Ambush, That Clown red addon who got you exposed status effect if you are hitted with the bottle, Just hitting them one time more...
See? There are counters ;)
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Yeah... like killers mistakes of tunneling some random guy who can't catch and then gens are done and you got the rewarding NOED. Cool huh?
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You certainly do have a chance, you're the 80%.
It's why Self Care is still how it is.
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Always the truth but what we can expect of devs when they recently said on a stream that their primary source of feedback about the game is Reddit? (which is full of killer mains)
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This. People needs to remember that this game is about 1 player vs 4 players.
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I main Trapper and have had no change in my kill rate since MoM. Most survivors are still potatoes and 3-4k is still common. If MoM is destroying your matches, practice anticipation and mind games because you need to improve your skills.
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@Boss Did you just complain about SC? One of the most overrated perks in the game? It's a useless time wasting perk in the current meta
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You know what a counter is,right?
Counter:
- you can do it on every killer
- you can always counter the perk in the match(not only endgame)
- the perk has zero effect
Example:
Noed counter Adrenaline
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@KillermainBTWm8 Did i complain though?
Or did i simply state something that happened in the past?
Maybe you should re-read it.
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More and more 2nd-chance-mechanics have lead to a 2nd-chance-mentality. Some players are so used to having multiple 2nd chances that they can't imagine playing without anymore.
MoM has only been existing for a couple of weeks. With all the perks that already existed, playing survivor was perfectly fine before.
Guys, you don't need MoM to survive. There are so many other tools available if you don't want to play the game without a 2nd chance. The devs made the right decision to change MoM.
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@Boss "It's why Selfcare is still how it is". That would suggest you think there is something wrong with it I would assume
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I'm not afraid to say i find something bad if i find something bad.
It's a forum, opinions are allowed.
You're free to assume, but you're wrong in this case, i think Self Care's fine currently.
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