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They pass 3 years and nothing is done about Nurse, fine...
...i'll do it myself:
As long as nothing changes, I will play slugging nurse and everyone will wait politely on the ground for their death. So I hope that survivors like this type of game. Be strong, you will need it. Maybe devs will save you lmao.
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Poor bastards :(
Nurse is one of the main reasons I just don't bother with survivor to be honest, it's more than 50% of what I face.
I'm not sure whether to say 'good job' or 'please stop, you're scaring the children'.
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Really people, so seriously, even killer mains like Tofu, Zubat ect. they EVEN NOT TAKE HER, because the game is too easy and is not satisfying, it says something about this character.
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Considering ohtofu put up a video about nurse being broken its inevitable we see a nurse nerf. Seems like behaviour is selective about who they listen too. They need to seriously balance red rank survivours otherwise you will have a mass exodus of killer players if any of the top tier killers are hit.
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It's true but first they have to rework the map, fix safe loops ect, so that the playing against usual killers would also require skills. I do not want her to be weak, but she does not give me satisfaction from the game, because how powerful she is.
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I like the point of view that survivors dont like her because she reverses the usual action-reaction-relation between survivors and killers. "Survivors dislike her because they cannot "stall" her but have to "escape"."
Dont trash me for this but nurse and hillbilly are strong because they were designed before survivors kept whining about new killers to get them trashed and devs caving in to only release somewhat underwhelming killers.
Ive read some of that discussion about that vid and especially the op seems like someone who put his fingers into his ears and keeps yelling " lalala i cant hear your arguments, nerf nurse because i say so"
Nurse is too strong just because the others are weak. And once she's nerfed like zarathos said, the "survivormains" will focus their gaze on billy next. Or spirit, because not seeing survivors isnt bad enough lol.
oh right killermain btw.
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Wow great idea you must be a genius !
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Have you ever watched a Tofu video? You're never played a nurse who just knows what she's doing? Not even talk about good or "god" nurse's but even about mediocre. People who think nurse is balanced have no idea about even simplest aspect of this game.
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Yes, what else can I do? Do you have a better idea?
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So reminder for myself: When i reach rank 4 start using anti slugging perks
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and what will it give you? you'll take Unbreakable I'll knock you down again, you'll take No Mither,i just kill you on hook, it will only give you spend a few minutes on the ground, not much, and you're gonna suck against any other killer, there's nothing survivor can do about it
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A core aspect to nurse counterplay is taking the reactionary element out of her kit forcing her into a position where she has to guess her blinks. Ive faces my fair share of red rank nurses and you need to stop healing sometimes. Most survivours cant play without two health states which is why nurse is dominant. But trust me if you just pushed gens instead of healing you can crush her.
If shes slugging dont rescue until the nirse is fprced to leave the area of a slugged person. Rember your abpg's always be pressuring gens. If your dead set on saving slugged survivours when the nurse is close you will lose. Spread out and hammer out those gens. The only killer a good survivour needs to fear is spirit and nurse. So build to combat them specifically.
I agree with omegablink nurse removes the guessing game and needs to be nerfed but base nurse with most other add ons can be overcome. One additional note. Stop using pallets arpund nurses they never work against good nurses never vault either its free map info and plants you on the ground for an easy down.
Finally the ohtofu video mentioned had fundamentaly weak survivours one featuring an afk with someone giving up on hook. The othe dced like a petulent child when she still had two more hooks to go. The only one who performed admirably was the meg around shack who demonstrated the counterplay you can use to buy time for your team.
One player can't save the game the team needs to come together and hammer out gens. Use measured altruism. Depip squad continously proved it can be done its up to survivours to adopt a different approach to nurse.
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Why should anyone care about that video? That guy used fallacious evidence. He didn't play Nurse against Survivor teams that knew how to play against a Nurse. The games he showed had disconnects and mediocre Survivors, you could play any Killer in that situation and claim them to be OP.
All that aside, the Nurse's base kit is fine. It's her Add-ons that have the potential to make her broken and the devs know that. She's up for an Add-on pass (devs confirmed that) like they already did with Trapper, Hag and Wraith, but that's it.
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If i play against survivors, no one even use self-care, gen rush in full team with DH, Adrenaline ect. And further, the power of the survivors is absolutely nothing compared to the nurse's power, she seems to be simply pulled here from another game to harass and bully the survivors. I don't even talk about her addons bc with it, she's beyond any healthy reasoning, becoming almost a divine being
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Spirit is not weak.
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People like you will not change anything in this game, it's the argument of every killer main "these survivors just played like #########", but I will tell you something, you can not be a good player against a nurse, you can just hope she is weak, and about addons i agree
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She's balanced almost like Nurse.
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I didn't say Spirit is unbalanced, she is completely fine and viable killer. He said everything is weak compared to Nurse.
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She is not as powerful as a nurse, agree, because of her vision, and the power limit, but still playing it her on red ranks I have no problems to crush anyone, even without a ruin, addons with an average of 2 Iron Will per match and ofc other stuff, and i'm not even good player, she also like nurse simple is more powerful than survivors, not seeing survivors like nurse fatuige is a little drawback, you can still hear regular breathing, if survior is injured he's just dead, still you hear footsteps, if not you just stop phasing and smack survivor, still you see even interaction with enviroments like grass moving ect, hearing survivor's working on gens, breakng totems, ect this is a part of tracking, that Spirit has, and people say"SHES JUST ALL ABOUT MINDGAMES,JUST GIT GUD NOOB"sorry to say that but Spirit doesn't have much to do with mindgames, it's pure reading which is not hard imo
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I never said that spirit is weak. She's actually one of the killers i try not to comment about because i never tried her. That said I think she IS weaker than nurse, and most would agree.
Spirit gives a lot of ground to survivors when using her skill, she has to stand still and survivors turn invisible the moment she starts charging her ability, not when she can start moving. Also she cannot see blood without addon. Additionally survivors can see when the husk spawns as the hair resets to a default poisition. Like i said, never played her but i strongly dislike all that cramming of artificial weaknesses into a killers ability (look at BOTH original legion and post nerf legion). She was also the first to get extended cooldowns on abilities.
By the way calling a killer "as balanced as nurse" in a topic about nerfing nurse sounds like someone wants them nerfed too. But implications are hard to i could be wrong.
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Nurse is strong, but if you know her weakpoint she's not any harder than billy. Nurse is all about prediction and cutting off survivors during looping. Don't loop, don't hide around pallets, and run through tires and trees and weird objects, she gets stuck on them alot.
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You're talking probably about baby nurse's lol, nurse who get stuck on objects...it's baby nurse or fiction.
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There are 16 killers in this game. If Nurse doesn't give you any satisfaction then don't play her. You've got arguably 4 other killers that can carry you in Red Ranks to varying degrees. If you don't play killer at all then you're actually the worst person to try and have input in the issues with Nurse as you don't have the experience of playing killer. OhTOfu put out a video of him playing nurse pretty poorly against survivors who clearly weren't skilled and made unforced mistake after unforced mistake. I have a lot of respect for Tofu, but he has a tendency to play up what he's doing when he's not doing anything all that special against potatoes.
Putting him aside, Nurse is perfectly reasonable without range addons. She scales with the killer's skill and against the optimal survivor play. She also is the only killer that scales well against optimal SWFs. Outside of an addon pass I don't know what you're trying to gain.
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So my personal opinion gets discarded, but yours somehow counts? Right...
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Listen, it's obvious what your actual problem is: you don't like strong Killers.
But instead of improving yourself as a Survivor, you want the devs to nerf those Killers, so that you'll have an easier time going against them. I mean you literally answered a different thread with "Survivors are weak af". It's quite clear what you're trying to accomplish here, it's nothing new. Survivor mains have been doing it for the past 3 years. You don't want to adapt to the game, you want the game to adapt to you, and so probably does that Tofu guy. I mean, no one, unless they have a bias against the Nurse, would honestly judge her strength using trials that would have been a cakewalk with any Killer, even the weakest ones.
I have a suggestion for you that would be much more beneficial to the game's overall health if more players would go that way.
There has been some advice on how to verse the Nurse here in this thread and there are a plethora of guides and useful tips and tricks on versing not just the Nurse, but all Killers in the game. I suggest you read through those and try to adapt what you've read to your Survivor play. I promise you, that it'll make the game much more enjoyable for you, once you succeed and get good at versing those strong Killers, that have every right to be in the game in their current form.
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Like i said before that's the problem with this community, bc no one understand YOU CAN'T BE A GOOD SURVIVOR AGAINST GOOD NURSE. People have really much trouble to understand that. If even this people see viseo when Nurse stomp survivor's making easy win also eating breakfest, people tell me"nah...this survivor's just are potatoes" if this is tru, so...after 700-750hrs on Nurse i just meat only potatoes
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Usually when everyone disagrees with you, it means that you're most likely wrong.
Your problem is, that you don't want to be convinced otherwise, hence why you so vehemently insist on your point of view, even when presented with arguments that go against it, you just dismiss them.
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You're wrong, i don't play survivor, bc they're weak and i don't like to be a meat for guy who spend 50 hrs to master top tier killer, i don't think this is fun at all. You miss your shot, try again
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Which is it, do you get stomped by Nurses or do you not play survivor? Can't have it both ways.
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I didn't miss anything, you PERFECTLY reacted the way I predicted you would in my previous two post. At this point, all you're doing is just further undermining your own credibility in this matter.
We both have proven my point. Quod erat demonstrandum.
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I don't play survivor, and is reason why, if you want to be a loser WHO absolutly has nothing to do about result of the match, is depending on how good is your opponent just play survivor, i think you're gonna like it
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You can have yourself right, I see with my own eyes how it all looks in practice, on both sides of the palisade
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I reject them because, playing nurse, I laugh at myself and I wonder how such a thing can be in the game, it's ridiculous how much power she has, those who say it's okay just can not use it, also once when I started to play it, it seemed fine, and even that i thought she's weak
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Man you're the reason killers get a bad rep. Idk what else you want from nurse. She's honestly in a good state with how strong the survivor role is. She is counterable through her line of sight and mindgaming. She's also a more difficult killer to master. Only reason she is over played is because no one is in as good of a state as her. And to the people playing nurse I give them props for learning how to effectively play her because it sure ain't easy.
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you know what? I will admit you right, leave her alone, this do not really disturb me, I hope that your waiting rooms in the lobby will be lengthened, because no one will want to play survivors, you will get what you deserve
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Idk man, i don't like bullying person who is weaker, but what if you're on this weaker side? You really think this person gonna be helpful and she's gonna wish you luck?, i don't think so
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i think you overrated how nurse work in this game
nurse doesn't requires 50hours to master it
if you knows maps its takes only 5hours to all kill everyone everymatch
except key
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Personaly i need around 200 hrs to master her, but they're people who do it in 50 hrs, like Zubat for example say that.
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I think you're protesting wrong. You ever see those monks that incinerate themselves? Notice how they don't catch other people on fire while claiming injustice? Slugging for the win seems a little self serving, but you go ahead and do you.
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The only difficulty about nurse is mapknowledge, nothing else and so is it for the survivors to become good.
I can imagine people that spent 1000 hours into this game as a survivor know every single hex location on any map, but imagine some1 puts 1000 hours into the Nurse and knows every single spot to perfectly teleport from one place to another.
It totaly depends on the player if something is considered difficult or not, i consider DbD as one of the easiest games in the market (mechanical wise!) - even the attacks as killer, i have a hard time to ever miss since this game allows me to use a extremly high sensitivity and a big enough hitregistration timer to even spin 360s and still hit survivors, even when i dont see them anymore.
Like i just know that thing from other p2p Games, even p2p shooters suffer from insane "flickshots" that work like a triggerbot and theres just way more issues within game engines that can be easily abused.
Any1 played counter strike source back in the day and had a 50 fps lock for extra lower recoil pattern so you could point blank hammer down 4 shots at the same spot, instead of 1?
Like those things alot of people even use by default but they never know whats happening.
But lets just be alone the facts that you can blink multiple times for extreme distances AND get an extra speed on your attacks aswell - its impossible to miss.
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I'm not doing it with pleasure, but I will now kill in the most annoying way to survivor's are gonna cry even more, maybe it will give something
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Sounds like this is a classic case of git gud
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I do not know what it's got to do with it, really man, I have no problem with playing killer, I can just snap my fingers and survivor's will cease to exist
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If you play before survivor's, you already have that knowledge, i remember, don't even i need do learn this thing.
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ah...another day where survivors can not adapt to the nurse and only do DC and bleed out on the ground, that's beautiful lmao
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wow, such determination. Play clown at rank 1 and get constant 4k's. Ill be on twitch ready to subscribe casue that would be some mighty ######### to witness
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already most of streaming people risk wm1 killers to get cancer
surprised by how good spirit is
and sick of nurse and never play again
if you ask them they ll all same answer - it never amuse viewers
cause they always trying to justify this game 'is' competetive
seems billy is golden for most people reaction
nurse is free 4kill ticket
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Bet'cha can't do it with Billy. Or anyone else. Because Nurse is the only Killer who's viable at the red ranks. Which is emblematic of a larger problem.
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This post is not about "clown op" bc, he's not, if you're guys want to be nurse still op another years, i'm fine with it, i have nice tool to bully surivors
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Agree.
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Spirit can also too, Tru prove this, but not even play her, bc they want easy 4k with cruthes like extra blinks or extra range addons lul, like nurse was no enough powerful without this addons lmao
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