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It is over, survivors won... GG
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The last war will be fought on Mount Billy.
But alas brethren, the battles are nearing an end.
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We are not talking about a major change we are talking about adding a damn door to all the structures causing a semi infinite. That would be a massive improvement
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AND WHO'S TO SAY THE TILE CHANGES WONT INCLUDE THIS do you like miss this whole part ive said this like 30 times SO UNTIL THEY HAPPEN stop over reacting.
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You don't really think what you write: if you really believed that the game is done, like an abusive boyfriend, why would you still be wasting time playing it and participating in the forum? Evidently, you hope that things will improve and you trust that you can contribute to this, otherwise you would have already been gone for quite a while. Furthermore, consider that the development team has significantly increased in the last year: what happened at the beginning is not so relevant...
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Clearly you weren't reading nor interested in the point I was trying to make. I literally took [screengrabs] from these threads to showcase that one party does the very thing they try to stigmatize the other side with.... "You cried over this and so you got it."
MoM got a heavy nerf that left it pretty much untouchable, and yet I never saw players claiming the other side "won". That is the point I am making. How one side is so biased that because a killer who is mechanically broken is being "revised", to the point where people are making this into some kind of competition.
I'm not even getting into Nurse specifics which is what you obviously want to happen. I've already said my piece on that topic. What becomes cheap is the same thing being said by the same group of people. This, when we don't even know what exactly they have planned to do.
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I am confuddled, why is there 100 notifications from this thread? O.o
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I think you are massively missing the meaning of the word overreacting. I am simply pointing out a flaw, among many others, in map design which has been around for years.
So this makes me believe that the redesign will take a long time before it is ready.
If I am wrong and you are right I would be gladly say "Hexyl, thank goodness you are right" because that would improve my experience as well, but considering the history of DBD I am not that confident
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Just because I hope things will get better doesn't mean I expect them to. I hope I win the lottery, but I sure as hell don't expect to (especially since I never play it).
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But you play DbD, so you expect to have fun doing so! :P
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Overreacting-respond more emotionally or forcibly than is justified.
Kinda looks just like this whole post.
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Survivors will always cry, they always want easy win.
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oof that stabs me
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I personally don't care but advocating DCing is against forum rules.
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I haven't touched it in quite some time. Too much hand-holding on the survivor side and too much looping on the killer side.
This is the problem with assumptions based on absolutely no data - they tend to be faulty.
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Completely ignores killers cried about BT SelfCare DS Mettle Even cried about Exhaustion which behavior went out of their way to rework exhaustion which instead nerfed every other perk but sprint burst and actually ended up buffing it.
Yeah you right Im a killer main but you cant act like both sides dont whine bro thats called being delusional.
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Didn't know that. Epic.
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Basically you've misunderstood what killers are saying and think that survivors can make the same argument back.
Survivors ask for specific things and get specific things; there is a direct link with their feedback and what happens to the game and it's causal. It is not equivalent to look at changes that survivors don't like and then cherry-pick complaints about it beforehand and assume there's a correlation let alone a causal relationship.
Who asked for MoM to be specifically changed to gain tokens on protection-events? Doesn't sound like anything a killer would suggest. The devs alone decided that with no regard to killers feedback on MoM.
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I'm just trying to instill a bit of confidence in a community that seems desperate for the Nurse's imminent death. I don't want to make false assumptions or anything else: I simply believe that, from the passion you instill in your messages, you keep the game more than you show it. That's it.
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No false assumptions here, just extrapolations based on three years of past experiences.
Do you ever throw a rock in the air and actually expect it won't go back down this time? Same thing.
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They decided that because who whined about it on the ptb? yeah okay dont act like killer players were not crying about it because they were.
Both sides whine stop trying to make it out like behavior is biased if that was the case they wouldn't have buffed killers the past 5 patches.
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Y'all ever stop to think that her base kit rework might not even change her viability in game? Just make her better on console or something?
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Why don't people understand that legion needed a fix and not a nerf?
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It's just an add on rework and a small base nurse adjustment. :/
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@ArecBalrin Who asked for MoM to be specifically changed to gain tokens on protection-events? Doesn't sound like anything a killer would suggest. The devs alone decided that with no regard to killers feedback on MoM.
Lol, ok. I'm done.
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”Fixing” legion would’ve nerfed him no matter how you spell it.
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Both sides have simpletons, it's easy to cherry-pick examples of ALL-CAPS simpletons saying stupid stuff. This is not the same as notable discussion participants persistently arguing a case for something.
It's absurdly careless to argue for nerfs to something without any regard to what changes could look like, which is why survivors specify the stuff they want to happen to stuff. Killers tend not to because the experience is that incremental changes with no guiding principle do not solve what are fundamental issues of fairness with the game. Is the game fairer now MoM has been changed? Not in the slightest: once someone finds a use for MoM, it will function basically as before.
The change to MoM and the change to DS are sides of the same coin: MoM's change is aimed at influencing survivors behaviour, but DS's change was for influencing killers behaviour. Look at how different the reactions are: survivors drop MoM completely but not DS, whilst killers are forced into making yet another catch-22 decision when someone gets off the hook.
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Fixing him, in his case ofc, would be buff his chaining hits potential and nerf his tunneling potential. They nerfed both very harsh which isn't a fix, it's a nerf.
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They “fixed” the moonwalk exploit and “fixed” FF downing so he’d have counterplay in chase, how would you have “fixed” legion without nerfing them?
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Oh boy your second paragraph first sentence is by far the funniest thing ive ever seen and ive played since 2018 ive seen the whining from both sides but to sit there and say killers dont complain OH BOY are you in for some memory lane time with me sit down my child grab some popcorn you are gonna get educated today!
Old BT nerfed because of Killer Uproar Self Care Nerfed because of Killer Uproar DS reworked due to Killer Uproar(Added counterplay slug it out still creates pressure as it forces someone off a gen) Mettle nerf Killer Uproar
You really want to sit there and say killers dont complain man thats delusional you want to argue its careless to nerf something without seeing what the changes look like welp welcome to survivor they've done that alot i play both sides have since i first started playing.
Mettle has no use thats why its not a meta perk DS became meta because it counters tunneling off hook which is not fun if you dont like it slug the DS out.
Yes survivors complain about nurses addons because they are indeed broken trying to justify Omega Blink and 5 Blink makes you look like a clown not gonna lie they need to go regardless of who asked for them to leave even killer main streamers agree they are to strong.
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lmao what? youre making it look like killers didnt do the same to ds MoM , instablinds, bnp, pallet vacuums , etc...
its a deseved nerf just like some if not all of the above listed
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They nerfed killer instinct detection
Slowed down vaults
Ff is removed when you miss a target
Bigger tr
To become a 115 killer
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In a fix you nerf some part and buff another to compensate. This time, they only nerfed him. It wasn't just a fix to the exploits, etc. They did it( that in my opinion the moonwalk exploit was really badly fixed) but then started to do another changes to him that had no sense at all.
How I would fix Legion was like in this post (IT WAS NOT MY IDEA BUT I WOULD AGREE 100% WITH IT) if you want to check it out.
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I was telling him things they “fixed”. I know the nerf was too far, my point was “fixing” legion would be a nerf.
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Because 115% ms wasn’t at all a buff, they didn’t only nerf him but it was mostly a nerf. I’ll read the idea after posting this.
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"Legion needed a nerf, the nerf was just too much." You simply said that he needed a nerf not that he needed a fix, in that case, nerfing makes part of it.
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Those are some of the unnecessary changes that i mentioned before. No need to do them. "Just why?" Is my question
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Not necessarily, freddy got changed andhe isn't nerfed.
They could have changed him to be good but not unfair
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Anyway for all you worried about nurse getting addons changes mclean posted this in his discord relax you'll see the changes soonish
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Do you know what will change please?
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I face Nurse about 1 in 20 games, and if someone didn't rage quit at the start, we would probably have at least 2 people survive (unless the Nurse is camping on a hill with a blink charged).
Honestly, not concerned with her being changed in any way.
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He did not specify he only said they are currently working on her as we speak and changes should be announced Soonish
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About the the legion change idea: overall it isn’t something I’d like, I do kinda like current legion but I feel like you shouldn’t be able to heal people/do gens while in DW. As for your comment he needed a nerf/temporary fix to his exploits but the “fix” doesn’t seem temporary sadly.
Imo the Freddy change was a nerf, the hit and run tactic worked well if you knew how to properly juggle the survivors, however he is more fun to play and face now while still being good.
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Thank you
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SoonTM
I had to! D:
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No Problem!
XD its a good meme all we need is the crow of judgement
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My dude, it's just her addons, not her power being changed. We don't even know how they are being changed, chill a little. Even if she isn't number 1, she'll still be great because she can blink through pallets. And there is always Billy and Spirit too pick up the slack she could leave. Either way, it ain't the end of the world.
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Dude, survivors main already complain a lot about Spirit and make threads about her, but devs didn't listen to them, they need to complain 3 years to finally change The Nurse and even killers mains said that some of her add-ons were too strong and needed changes, also they said they want to change slightly her base kit, so she might not be nerfed that hard after all.
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Nurse add ons have needed a pass for some time. There is no reason for 5 blinks and omega blink to exist in the context of the game. I say this as a killer too, playing with them feels cheap- and not fun for either side. "All hex totem Prayer beads spirit" is fun even if it has limited counters, but Nurse is pure cheese. She should absolutley remain S tier though, and require a lot of time to git gud, as thats rewarding.
That and even if they get rid of Omega blink and 5 blink. (Which must be the intention, or nerf them severly) That does mean she gets 2 UR addons, I just hope they are fun, change her gameplay up a bit or let you make builds out of them, and don't have some stupid drawback that makes them a liability.
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I don't care, I always kill 4 without an addon
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my sv (asian), nurse using add-on will not be respected
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