SERIOUSLY Let killers Opt of getting que'd with SWF.

Vortexas

I'd rather not play against a 4 man cheat squad.

Yes using Discord while playing this game is cheating, I don't give a ######### if you don't think so.

Just add an option to let us killers opt out of SWF.

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SnakeSound222

Too many Survivors play SWF. The queue times would become insanely long, otherwise I’d be all for it.

Vortexas

I don't care.

I already have to sit in a STUPID long que time as it is, only to get saddle with 4 Ochido wannabe's.

Seriously if you NEED SwF to rank up, if you NEED discord to win you should uninstall the game you are literal scum.

Superyoshiegg

How is using discord while playing the game cheating?

No really, I'd like to hear your thought process on that one.

Vortexas

Because it's utter bullshit, that I can find and chase someone...then on discord they are all like

"Hay guis his totem is by the barn near the vault point go get it while I loop him!"

And such bullshit that needs to be done away with.

Seriously Give Killers the Option to Opt out of SWF, yes I can just dodge, but Killer que times at least for me lately have been ######### long, only to finally get a group..and its a 4 man Ochido wannabe SWF squad.

Vortexas

@Superyoshiegg said:
How is using discord while playing the game cheating?

No really, I'd like to hear your thought process on that one.

The Game wasn't meant for the survivors to communicate with each other vocally. That's why.

You shouldn't be able to feed your teammates information from all the way across teh ######### map, while a 300 pound killing machine is chasing you.

Shipthebread

@Vortexas said:
Because it's utter bullshit, that I can find and chase someone...then on discord they are all like

"Hay guis his totem is by the barn near the vault point go get it while I loop him!"

And such bullshit that needs to be done away with.

Seriously Give Killers the Option to Opt out of SWF, yes I can just dodge, but Killer que times at least for me lately have been ######### long, only to finally get a group..and its a 4 man Ochido wannabe SWF squad.

Git Gud

Vortexas

@Shipthebread said:

@Vortexas said:
Because it's utter bullshit, that I can find and chase someone...then on discord they are all like

"Hay guis his totem is by the barn near the vault point go get it while I loop him!"

And such bullshit that needs to be done away with.

Seriously Give Killers the Option to Opt out of SWF, yes I can just dodge, but Killer que times at least for me lately have been ######### long, only to finally get a group..and its a 4 man Ochido wannabe SWF squad.

Git Gud

Play without need 3 other people and voice chat to carry you.

Doom_Punk

@Shipthebread said:

@Vortexas said:
Because it's utter bullshit, that I can find and chase someone...then on discord they are all like

"Hay guis his totem is by the barn near the vault point go get it while I loop him!"

And such bullshit that needs to be done away with.

Seriously Give Killers the Option to Opt out of SWF, yes I can just dodge, but Killer que times at least for me lately have been ######### long, only to finally get a group..and its a 4 man Ochido wannabe SWF squad.

Git Gud

Is what SWF players refuse to do.

powerbats

@Vortexas said:

Play without need 3 other people and voice chat to carry you.

Then play without any perks and or items and addons. If you're going to need that stuff to carry you to victory then you shouldn't be playing as a killer. The entity would say that to you if it saw your post since you're not supposed to fing care.

I play both solo and swf and some of it's to rank up and other is just to have fun and the whiny spoiled rottenness of killer is astounding right now. I've been doing a lot of solo queue and the moment they see a single tool box and or flashlight they dodge 90% of the time.

When I play killer I could care less, i''ll take you on regardless and sometimes I'll win and sometimes i'll lose but at least I tried and didn't wimp out. It's like playing the killer has now become oh it's a difficult group screw this wimp out. The new changes are a positive and there'll be more to come for both sides.

But if you want to opt out then simply stop playing the game as a killer because it's not going to happen. When 70% of the player base is swf and you opt out then you're going to be in lobby for 30 minutes to an hour if not longer.

The devs aren't going to cave to a vocal small minority of killers that want this and have already stated it many times and constantly spamming the forums with whine threads like this makes all the ones doing it look childish. Instead get constructive and give ideas and break down how those ideas would work. What would your ideas do and what are it's pluses and minuses? How do you improve on those ideas and mitigate any issues?

If you can't do any of those last things then better uninstall now because you're not getting what you want anytime ever. Those are simply how the numbers game work. You can say queue times will go up but the devs will simply do something to attract killers to lobbies like bp events etc.

Vortexas

@powerbats said:

@Vortexas said:

Play without need 3 other people and voice chat to carry you.

Then play without any perks and or items and addons. If you're going to need that stuff to carry you to victory then you shouldn't be playing as a killer. The entity would say that to you if it saw your post since you're not supposed to fing care.

I play both solo and swf and some of it's to rank up and other is just to have fun and the whiny spoiled rottenness of killer is astounding right now. I've been doing a lot of solo queue and the moment they see a single tool box and or flashlight they dodge 90% of the time.

When I play killer I could care less, i''ll take you on regardless and sometimes I'll win and sometimes i'll lose but at least I tried and didn't wimp out. It's like playing the killer has now become oh it's a difficult group screw this wimp out. The new changes are a positive and there'll be more to come for both sides.

But if you want to opt out then simply stop playing the game as a killer because it's not going to happen. When 70% of the player base is swf and you opt out then you're going to be in lobby for 30 minutes to an hour if not longer.

The devs aren't going to cave to a vocal small minority of killers that want this and have already stated it many times and constantly spamming the forums with whine threads like this makes all the ones doing it look childish. Instead get constructive and give ideas and break down how those ideas would work. What would your ideas do and what are it's pluses and minuses? How do you improve on those ideas and mitigate any issues?

If you can't do any of those last things then better uninstall now because you're not getting what you want anytime ever. Those are simply how the numbers game work. You can say queue times will go up but the devs will simply do something to attract killers to lobbies like bp events etc.

I found the entitled Survivor Main.

Jack11803

“Just adapt”. That’s what keep getting told.

powerbats

@Vortexas said:

@powerbats said:

@Vortexas said:

Play without need 3 other people and voice chat to carry you.

Then play without any perks and or items and addons. If you're going to need that stuff to carry you to victory then you shouldn't be playing as a killer. The entity would say that to you if it saw your post since you're not supposed to fing care.

I play both solo and swf and some of it's to rank up and other is just to have fun and the whiny spoiled rottenness of killer is astounding right now. I've been doing a lot of solo queue and the moment they see a single tool box and or flashlight they dodge 90% of the time.

When I play killer I could care less, i''ll take you on regardless and sometimes I'll win and sometimes i'll lose but at least I tried and didn't wimp out. It's like playing the killer has now become oh it's a difficult group screw this wimp out. The new changes are a positive and there'll be more to come for both sides.

But if you want to opt out then simply stop playing the game as a killer because it's not going to happen. When 70% of the player base is swf and you opt out then you're going to be in lobby for 30 minutes to an hour if not longer.

The devs aren't going to cave to a vocal small minority of killers that want this and have already stated it many times and constantly spamming the forums with whine threads like this makes all the ones doing it look childish. Instead get constructive and give ideas and break down how those ideas would work. What would your ideas do and what are it's pluses and minuses? How do you improve on those ideas and mitigate any issues?

If you can't do any of those last things then better uninstall now because you're not getting what you want anytime ever. Those are simply how the numbers game work. You can say queue times will go up but the devs will simply do something to attract killers to lobbies like bp events etc.

I found the entitled Survivor Main.

You spilled some again.

Translation you can't refute anything I posted so resort to the usual insults. You just proved my point about being a whiny entitled killer.

I main trapper on killer side and enjoy him thoroughly along with Pig. If I was the entity I'd bslap your whiny spoiled entitled ass and send you to killer school for babies. If you don't have anything to show how to fix things then you'll yet again prove my point.

Delfador

@powerbats said:

@Vortexas said:

Play without need 3 other people and voice chat to carry you.

Then play without any perks and or items and addons. If you're going to need that stuff to carry you to victory then you shouldn't be playing as a killer. The entity would say that to you if it saw your post since you're not supposed to fing care.

I play both solo and swf and some of it's to rank up and other is just to have fun and the whiny spoiled rottenness of killer is astounding right now. I've been doing a lot of solo queue and the moment they see a single tool box and or flashlight they dodge 90% of the time.

When I play killer I could care less, i''ll take you on regardless and sometimes I'll win and sometimes i'll lose but at least I tried and didn't wimp out. It's like playing the killer has now become oh it's a difficult group screw this wimp out. The new changes are a positive and there'll be more to come for both sides.

But if you want to opt out then simply stop playing the game as a killer because it's not going to happen. When 70% of the player base is swf and you opt out then you're going to be in lobby for 30 minutes to an hour if not longer.

The devs aren't going to cave to a vocal small minority of killers that want this and have already stated it many times and constantly spamming the forums with whine threads like this makes all the ones doing it look childish. Instead get constructive and give ideas and break down how those ideas would work. What would your ideas do and what are it's pluses and minuses? How do you improve on those ideas and mitigate any issues?

If you can't do any of those last things then better uninstall now because you're not getting what you want anytime ever. Those are simply how the numbers game work. You can say queue times will go up but the devs will simply do something to attract killers to lobbies like bp events etc.

The game is not meant to be played without addons or perks. However, by not providing in game chat and mic, devs tried to avoid communication. It is a massive disadvantage for killers and people are right to complain about it.

Don't get me wrong. I am a survivor main too and I would try to play SWF if my friends liked this game but I at least acknowledge the massive disadvantage it brings to the killers. You can still play the game and don't tell your friends where the killer is going but I assume that almost none of the SWF groups play in this way.

Why as a killer do I have to endure this? Why when I use BBQ and go to the survivor crouching in the distance, should survivor know that I am coming to his way so he must hide? The disadvantage of voice communication for killers is beyond imagination in this game. You want to have fun? Killers want to have fun as well. If you want to play the game in a way that makes you happy and allows you to have fun then killers have this right as well. They can pick leatherface and facecamp you with their chainsaw and become happy because they spoiled your fun.

Skorpanio

If every killer does this, SWF will become very unfun quickly.

Seriously why tf would we make the game 'unfun'
You're suppost to have fun playing the game you lil saltbag.

If you don't enjoy the game I highly suggest you go ahead and press the big uninstall button.
SWF groups deserve to have just as much fun as the killer is.

Vortexas

@Jack11803 said:
“Just adapt”. That’s what keep getting told.

@powerbats said:

@Vortexas said:

@powerbats said:

@Vortexas said:

Play without need 3 other people and voice chat to carry you.

Then play without any perks and or items and addons. If you're going to need that stuff to carry you to victory then you shouldn't be playing as a killer. The entity would say that to you if it saw your post since you're not supposed to fing care.

I play both solo and swf and some of it's to rank up and other is just to have fun and the whiny spoiled rottenness of killer is astounding right now. I've been doing a lot of solo queue and the moment they see a single tool box and or flashlight they dodge 90% of the time.

When I play killer I could care less, i''ll take you on regardless and sometimes I'll win and sometimes i'll lose but at least I tried and didn't wimp out. It's like playing the killer has now become oh it's a difficult group screw this wimp out. The new changes are a positive and there'll be more to come for both sides.

But if you want to opt out then simply stop playing the game as a killer because it's not going to happen. When 70% of the player base is swf and you opt out then you're going to be in lobby for 30 minutes to an hour if not longer.

The devs aren't going to cave to a vocal small minority of killers that want this and have already stated it many times and constantly spamming the forums with whine threads like this makes all the ones doing it look childish. Instead get constructive and give ideas and break down how those ideas would work. What would your ideas do and what are it's pluses and minuses? How do you improve on those ideas and mitigate any issues?

If you can't do any of those last things then better uninstall now because you're not getting what you want anytime ever. Those are simply how the numbers game work. You can say queue times will go up but the devs will simply do something to attract killers to lobbies like bp events etc.

I found the entitled Survivor Main.

You spilled some again.

Translation you can't refute anything I posted so resort to the usual insults. You just proved my point about being a whiny entitled killer.

I main trapper on killer side and enjoy him thoroughly along with Pig. If I was the entity I'd bslap your whiny spoiled entitled ass and send you to killer school for babies. If you don't have anything to show how to fix things then you'll yet again prove my point.

Made my points earlier in the thread kiddo, you don't seem too keen on refuting them.

It's okay though, I'd get mad too if I needed 3 others plus voice chat to play.

Vortexas

@Skorpanio said:

If every killer does this, SWF will become very unfun quickly.

Seriously why tf would we make the game 'unfun'
You're suppost to have fun playing the game you lil saltbag.

If you don't enjoy the game I highly suggest you go ahead and press the big uninstall button.
SWF groups deserve to have just as much fun as the killer is.

No they don't.

The game wasn't designed for them, and we as KILLERS should be allowed to opt out of playing these sort of scum.

Vortexas

So many salty survivors when you recommend killers be able to opt out of there Toxic Cheat mode.

Shipthebread

@Vortexas said:

@Shipthebread said:

@Vortexas said:
Because it's utter bullshit, that I can find and chase someone...then on discord they are all like

"Hay guis his totem is by the barn near the vault point go get it while I loop him!"

And such bullshit that needs to be done away with.

Seriously Give Killers the Option to Opt out of SWF, yes I can just dodge, but Killer que times at least for me lately have been ######### long, only to finally get a group..and its a 4 man Ochido wannabe SWF squad.

Git Gud

Play without need 3 other people and voice chat to carry you.

I don't play SWF, I play killer. Just sounds like you need to get better tho

Skorpanio

@Vortexas said:
So many salty survivors when you recommend killers be able to opt out of there Toxic Cheat mode.

If your so called cheat mode is called Discord, try Skype.
And I think you're just another one of these salty af killer mains that quits mid game just because you can't find any way to enjoy the game.

Go play something else!

• Mathieu Cote

Vortexas

@Shipthebread said:

@Vortexas said:

@Shipthebread said:

@Vortexas said:
Because it's utter bullshit, that I can find and chase someone...then on discord they are all like

"Hay guis his totem is by the barn near the vault point go get it while I loop him!"

And such bullshit that needs to be done away with.

Seriously Give Killers the Option to Opt out of SWF, yes I can just dodge, but Killer que times at least for me lately have been ######### long, only to finally get a group..and its a 4 man Ochido wannabe SWF squad.

Git Gud

Play without need 3 other people and voice chat to carry you.

I don't play SWF, I play killer. Just sounds like you need to get better tho

Naw I do fine.

I just hate going against people that need to cheat to play the game.

Vortexas

@Skorpanio said:

@Vortexas said:
So many salty survivors when you recommend killers be able to opt out of there Toxic Cheat mode.

If your so called cheat mode is called Discord, try Skype.
And I think you're just another one of these salty af killer mains that quits mid game because you can't find any way to enjoy the game.

Go play something else!

• Mathieu Cote

Sorry, but voice communication was NEVER intended to be part of DbD nor was SWF groups.

We should have the right, and ability to opt out without just lobby dodging.

I am sorry you need 3 people and voice to carry you man, hopefully you get better one day.

Skorpanio

I just hate going against people that need to cheat to play the game.

You mean the one's that need to communicate?
You can't ban communication you know...

Skorpanio

Sorry, but voice communication was NEVER intended to be part of DbD nor was SWF groups.

We should have the right, and ability to opt out without just lobby dodging.

I am sorry you need 3 people and voice to carry you man, hopefully you get better one day.

It's raining SALT halleluja it's raining SALT!
Get your stuff together I can't stand the toxic saltbags like you.
Bye Bye, have fun just complaining about everything instead of adapting!

Shipthebread

@Vortexas said:

@Shipthebread said:

@Vortexas said:

@Shipthebread said:

@Vortexas said:
Because it's utter bullshit, that I can find and chase someone...then on discord they are all like

"Hay guis his totem is by the barn near the vault point go get it while I loop him!"

And such bullshit that needs to be done away with.

Seriously Give Killers the Option to Opt out of SWF, yes I can just dodge, but Killer que times at least for me lately have been ######### long, only to finally get a group..and its a 4 man Ochido wannabe SWF squad.

Git Gud

Play without need 3 other people and voice chat to carry you.

I don't play SWF, I play killer. Just sounds like you need to get better tho

Naw I do fine.

I just hate going against people that need to cheat to play the game.

Just because you say it's cheating doesn't make that so. When survivors complain about nerf's the answer is adapt. Maybe you should take killer's advice and adapt. Be sure to wipe your keyboard, I don't want your tears to mess up your keyboard bud.

Runiver

@Vortexas said:
I'd rather not play against a 4 man cheat squad.

Yes using Discord while playing this game is cheating, I don't give a [BAD WORD] if you don't think so.

Just add an option to let us killers opt out of SWF.

SWF ain't cheating, whatever people say. Devs stated it several times, just gotta deal with it.

Skorpanio

Just because you say it's cheating doesn't make that so. When survivors complain about nerf's the answer is adapt. Maybe you should take killer's advice and adapt. Be sure to wipe your keyboard, I don't want your tears to mess up your keyboard bud.

Very strong words, I like it.

Personally as a killer main I've got no problem with SWF groups, if there's someone that needs to adapt.
It's the survivors!

But also, how often do we really encounter SWF groups?
1/10?
3/10?
Not too often, and if this boi can't take a single loss now and then. He should quit!

Vortexas

@Skorpanio said:

Just because you say it's cheating doesn't make that so. When survivors complain about nerf's the answer is adapt. Maybe you should take killer's advice and adapt. Be sure to wipe your keyboard, I don't want your tears to mess up your keyboard bud.

Very strong words, I like it.

Personally as a killer main I've got no problem with SWF groups, if there's someone that needs to adapt.
It's the survivors!

But also, how often do we really encounter SWF groups?
1/10?
3/10?
Not too often, and if this boi can't take a single loss now and then. He should quit!

Oh now you are a Killer Main mmhm.

Whatever you say buddy.

Skorpanio

Oh now you are a Killer Main mmhm.

Whatever you say buddy.

Always been a killer main dud.

Ever sinse The Hag was released!
'When I bought dbd'

Skorpanio

I do ofc play survivor sometimes, in SWF groups lol.
Suck it!

And if I ever see you in game as a survivor I'll make you regret buying Dead by Daylight.
I suppose that's it for me, as I know that you're probaply going to keep argueing against what I'm saying.

Have fun!
(͡ ͡° ͜ つ ͡͡°)

Edit:
If you don't get this 17+ joke, just leave it be.

RepliCant

Yawn, welcome to threat 300 202 of "we don't wanna play with SWF"

Vortexas

@Skorpanio said:
I do ofc play survivor sometimes, in SWF groups lol.
Suck it!

And if I ever see you in game as a survivor I'll make you regret buying Dead by Daylight.
I suppose that's it for me, as I know that you're probaply going to keep argueing against what I'm saying.

Have fun!
(͡ ͡° ͜ つ ͡͡°)

Edit:
If you don't get this 17+ joke, just leave it be.

Doubt it.

Skorpanio

@Brady said:
Yawn, welcome to threat 300 202 of "we don't wanna play with SWF"

Skorpanio

Doubt it.

The joke:
This game is for 17+ and salty kids like you shouldn't be here.

Vortexas:

fcc2014

@Vortexas @RemoveSWF You kill SWF, you kill a large portion of the player base. Let's do the dumbest things possible to fix the game. What are you auditioning for a job with BHVR?

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Visionmaker

Since you're suggesting the end of DBD anyway, you might as well quit now.

"ADAPT OR DIE" - Killer mains

Skorpanio

Good. We don't want you here.

Go ruin Soul at Stake instead.

As you can see my dude, the mayority is against you and you should stop pretending like you can make the game better. Because you can't!

Adapt my friend, it's called adapt.

Wicked_Django

How can the developers ban voice chat? Isnt discord a third-party software? Also, I don’t think there would be a way for them to eliminate party chat on console either

fcc2014

@RemoveSWF said:

@fcc2014 said:
@Vortexas @RemoveSWF You kill SWF, you kill a large portion of the player base.

Good. We don't want you here.

Go ruin Soul at Stake instead.

Don't play it, maybe you should. Since apparently your not good at this game. Have you tried the killer tutorial?

Vortexas

@Wicked_Django said:
How can the developers ban voice chat? Isnt discord a third-party software? Also, I don’t think there would be a way for them to eliminate party chat on console either

There is no way to eliminate it.

We just need the option to Avoid SWF entirely. I don't want to play the game with people that are hell bent on trying to break it, and be toxic.

fcc2014

@Wicked_Django said:
How can the developers ban voice chat? Isnt discord a third-party software? Also, I don’t think there would be a way for them to eliminate party chat on console either

Even if they could, they won't. I bought the game and got 9 other friends to buy the game so we can play together. Word of mouth is how games spread, not including people like to be social and play together. SWF will never go away.

RepliCant

@Vortexas said:

@Wicked_Django said:
How can the developers ban voice chat? Isnt discord a third-party software? Also, I don’t think there would be a way for them to eliminate party chat on console either

There is no way to eliminate it.

We just need the option to Avoid SWF entirely. I don't want to play the game with people that are hell bent on trying to break it, and be toxic.

Adapt or Die!!

Russ76

SWF is what brought a lot of us to the game.  I would never have known about it but for friends.  (I do run more solo now than SWF, but that doesn't change the fact of how I got introduced to the game) And while the elimination of SWF wouldn't directly kill the game it would harm it to the point BHVR wouldn't create new killers/survivors or continue to try to balance it in any way, which would kill it. 

Russ76

trying to delete double post

fcc2014

@Brady said:

@Vortexas said:

@Wicked_Django said:
How can the developers ban voice chat? Isnt discord a third-party software? Also, I don’t think there would be a way for them to eliminate party chat on console either

There is no way to eliminate it.

We just need the option to Avoid SWF entirely. I don't want to play the game with people that are hell bent on trying to break it, and be toxic.

Adapt or Die!!

Not to speak for them but i feel this is how they will react.....

Visionmaker

fcc2014 said:

@Wicked_Django said:
How can the developers ban voice chat? Isnt discord a third-party software? Also, I don’t think there would be a way for them to eliminate party chat on console either

Even if they could, they won't. I bought the game and got 9 other friends to buy the game so we can play together. Word of mouth is how games spread, not including people like to be social and play together. SWF will never go away.

Same. But the day the devs decide that the game wasn't meant for social players is the day I move on to higher quality games. I'll have no problem taking at least six other regular players with me.

Honestly, it's hard enough to convince them to stay with the mountains of survivor nerfs over the last year. I should be praised for my persuasive positivity.

fcc2014

@Visionmaker said:

Same. But the day the devs decide that the game wasn't meant for social players is the day I move on to higher quality games. I'll have no problem taking at least six other regular players with me.

Honestly, it's hard enough to convince them to stay with the mountains of survivor nerfs over the last year. I should be praised for my persuasive positivity.

I lost a few after the emblem system, they never cared about rank but were bugged by hitting 20k and safety pipping because they wouldn't play the game to accommodate the new system. I'm actually curious to see what happens after the exhaustion nerfs combined with the killer reworks. That along with the frame rate drop on most maps may make for a terrible combination.

ItsDaEmuDood

@Vortexas said:
Because it's utter bullshit, that I can find and chase someone...then on discord they are all like

"Hay guis his totem is by the barn near the vault point go get it while I loop him!"

And such bullshit that needs to be done away with.

Seriously Give Killers the Option to Opt out of SWF, yes I can just dodge, but Killer que times at least for me lately have been ######### long, only to finally get a group..and its a 4 man Ochido wannabe SWF squad.

I think the point you're trying to make here is that Killers shouldn't be forced to run Thrill to have an actual chance of defending their totems without camping.

AsePlayer

@Vortexas said:

@Shipthebread said:

@Vortexas said:

@Shipthebread said:

@Vortexas said:
Because it's utter bullshit, that I can find and chase someone...then on discord they are all like

"Hay guis his totem is by the barn near the vault point go get it while I loop him!"

And such bullshit that needs to be done away with.

Seriously Give Killers the Option to Opt out of SWF, yes I can just dodge, but Killer que times at least for me lately have been ######### long, only to finally get a group..and its a 4 man Ochido wannabe SWF squad.

Git Gud

Play without need 3 other people and voice chat to carry you.

I don't play SWF, I play killer. Just sounds like you need to get better tho

Naw I do fine.

I just hate going against people that need to cheat to play the game.

I don't "need to cheat" to play the game, I just enjoy playing it more with my friends. Sorry I socialize I guess.