question to old dbd players

The removal of near instant blinds is an improvement?

I still dont understand why devs nerfed Pigs traps and tier1 Myers (Spine Chill can now detect him, lol).

Moonwalking is not the most skilled technique out there, but If I as a survivior couldnt win a chase against a killer that walks backwards and cant see me, then I would make me rethink my skill lol

Darker maps would only lead to a higher usage of tracking perks imo - for both sides.

Sadly people do their best to make this game as "unhorror" as possible^^.

Played since the game's release. Most boring change, for me, was the removal of offerings that effected map brightness. They may have been annoying at times, but they also made for hilarious antics, such as hiding survivors in plain sight and crazy trapper traps.

Most boring change has been adding Bloodlust instead of fixing maps.

I love getting outplayed by bloodlust 3 in generic debree tiles

I can understand your frustration, it must really suck to hear peple only complain about something you like.

I used to play dbd a lot at that time, so I was always in red ranks, maybe that was the reason for the builds I saw.

By skill I meant genuine moonwalking, this exploit is based on ability to drop chase without moonwalking and is caused by broken chase mechanic.

I dont think it was a mistake, its just that devs handled it terribly.

Its true that Frenzy makes chases easier, but the only thing that was needed was a requirement that would FORCE Legion to injure multiple people with his power.

So even thought he would have a huge advantage over each survivior, he would have to catch ALL of them to gain real benefits and at least more than one to not get punished.

This would be extremely fun to play (running at high speeds while using tactic to force surviviors together), while not being too strong (winning a chase agains 1 survivior would rather punish you than reward). This is why I actually LIKE the "miss=lose power" part of the Legion but also hate the "hit to lose 100% Frenzy".

Also, running way faster than surviviors doesnt have to mean its easier. Its way harder to hit while running at high speeds, and if some penalty for steering badly was added (like Billy) it could also be balanced out.

TL;DR: Legion could be a fun killer, and wasnt a mistake, devs were just too lazy designing his power.

Yeah, red ranks can be very sweaty and toxic (I don't play killer in red ranks, but my bf sends me pictures from time to time and I really don't envy him for this experience)

It's really nice from you to let people live from time to time, I hope your survivor appreciate that :)

And I think your right, fun is more important than Rank, I prefer Green to purple ranks too.

And on the topic of Legion, I really think that some of his limitations are quite unnecessary, so hopefully he will see some changes in the future.

Nurse rework where she received a cooldown.

It sound like devs dont want killers to kill.. xD Also, it would force the Pig to keep a trap or all traps and lose pressure during all match. It would be a gamble.

Which Killers do you mean? Pig dash, hatchets, chainsaw etc all do not count as basic attack.

I personally think it's questionable that a perk like Franklins demand a basic attack.

Most boring. Hmm. Honestly, from a survivor standpoint, I'd have to say some of the recent changes, ie ruin, made it feel (granted it was always like this at high ranks through MY experience, btw) like the game goes too fast. I mean it does serve it's purpose for high rank survivors (or newer players), but for players like myself, it's eh. I have no proper incentive to go find the killer for a chase other than boredom from pressing a single button all game. I know gens are the only objective, and I have no intent of throwing backlash anywhere, so please don't take this out of context.

Killer. Hmm. I suppose the ranking system after the rank reset. I hated going against red ranks as a green rank that had so much to learn, but now, I'm pushed to brown currently (no time to dedicate time here recently) and I'm getting placed with rank 20s or horrible rank 10s. I get maybe a red now and then, which I'm not outright complaining, it's just boring hitting a survivor then... They go all the way around and back into your arms... I mean I'm all for hugs, but this is dbd or dead by daylight... not hug all day lol.

Hmm, and the other thing that's both sides is the lack of actual events. I'm okay with the archives, but events are a lot more fun imo. Especially when they're done well.

Ok, just a heads up, I am currently inebriated atm (Friends Friday night parties can be crazy/cruel) so, while I still feel a bit a faculty of mind, I may be a bit too straight forward/honest/biased in my response to the OP.

I have mained Killer for 1000 hours since November 2016, and Reached that 1k hour in August of 2019, wherein I switched roles to maining survivor for the next 1000 hours, of which I have only accomplished 659 hours currently. Why it took me so long to get 1k hours as killer is simply because I had a job that took priority and played this game casually for the past 3+ years. Since I lost said job, I've been able to devote more time into DbD, and solely in the survivor role as of August 2019.

I have to say, just as I had suspected for so long playing the Killer role, Survivor is much more easygoing and relaxed overall. While playing the Killer role, I've witnessed:

Instant Blind Flashlights with a blindness effect lasting for 5 seconds, Literal infinite loops, Self Care lasing only 12 seconds, Decisive Strike available on anyone downed regardless of whether or not they have been hooked before or were the obsession, Borrowed Time Protecting both the rescuer and the rescued survivor, Survivors ale to get a Flashlight rescue on killers carrying their teammates regardless of when the survivors started the blind during pickup, Pallet teleportation, Insta heals, Insta Gens with old BNP, Literal Infinite loops wherein the killer could never catch up to the survivor, Perks granting 2nd, 3rd and 4th chances for survivors, Killer abilities being game breaking, Some killer perks being too OP for their own good, But above all... an intense feeling of imbalance in this game primarily favored towards survivors.

This Imbalance feeling all changed in 2019, wherein the devs started nerfing survivors healing and recently their repair mechanics to better valance out the game in favor of both roles. This while unfavorable to one side, is actually a good thing for the health of the games future. If the bend too much in the survivors favor, no one will want to play killer, and likewise if the bend too far in killers favor, no one will want to play survivor. Many players seem to have forgotten that when you play against any killer, they present a new challenge to overcome that can't be done the same way as you've become accustomed to. Case and Point is the Nurse: She outright defies or bypasses the usage of pallets, and thus becomes more threatening around those tiles survivors are so accustomed to for escaping a chase. This makes her far more dangerous around them and makes survivors adapt by either being more stealthy or more cunning in their jukes around said tiles. Each killer presents their own problem that survivors have to adapt to, and while most killers faced still fall upon the basics, the ones who challenge survivors to think outside the box become the most threatening.

"What is the most boring/ridiculous change?"

Easily the recent addition of Sabotage becoming 2.5 seconds. This change not only eliminates the killers objectives too quickly in solo play, it makes coordinated play ridiculously OP.

Admittedly I'm completely with The OP if survivors no longer get skill-checks while using toolboxes for repair, that's just appalling. They already accelerate the completion of a gen by a large margin, even with the recent toolbox changes, so this additional piece of information is rather disheartening to learn as it presents the survivors with no additional challenge or risk for gaining such speeds. This change, if true, is quintessentially the worst thing that can happen to DbD as it presents the survivors with a clear advantage with 0 risks for using it. I thought the idea of lowering the survivors Toolboxes Effectiveness was to make them more risky to use, but if a toolbox can repair a gen 25% without the risk of losing it or even having the chance of a skill-check (which are honestly easy enough as is) then what is the ######### point of making the change in the first place? Increasing the usage of the toolbox means nothing unless you also increase the difficulty of using it. You're basically giving survivors a "Free pass" without any difficulty, to repair gens! Here's another example of what would be more fair:

Survivors are 5% more likely to trigger skill checks while using a Toolbox, but increase their repair rate by (current PTB rate), Failed skill checks while using a toolbox reduce the generators progress by 10/15/20% based on the rarity of the toolbox used.

This makes it so that using a toolbox has an equal risk/reward mechanic, and makes their limited usage more in line with balance towards the overall games mechanics. (Admittedly I don't know if the current toolboxes increase gen repair speeds by 10/15/20%, that was just an example, so please don't take it too seriously, despite how accurate it feels).

Overall, I've been very happy and elated with how BHVR have treated killers in the past year. They nerfed a plethora of broken survivor perks and mechanics, and have buffed killers that have traditionally been considered F-D tier viable in the rankings, and for that I am extremely grateful since playing survivor has become more of a challenge and less of a bully simulator. Here's hoping they keep with the give and take mentality that is keeping this game balanced, and don't side with one side over the other too hard as to make this game unplayable.

I play since 2017, mostly as a solo surv, and the recent Ruin nerf definitely made the game a lot more boring. I've never played that many 5-minute-matches where barely anything happens. Spend the majority of the match on a gen, 1-2 people get hooked, exit gates open. Now spend the same time waiting for the next match.

(Been playing since Huntress release) For me it's got to be the healing changes. It was meant to slow down the game, but all it did was create a no heal meta, where people focus on doing gens instead of healing. When playing survivor it's so boring to hold M1 for 16 seconds (20 if mangled), so I just don't get healed. As a killer it works against new players, but not against good players, they just ignore healing and focus on doing gens. It changed a lot at the bottom level but only made people more focused on doing gens at high level play.

Sorry, but genuine moonwalking was also exploiting the fact that the chase stops, if you loose line of sight on the survivors, even though it was harder, unless you mean moonwalking in the sense of going backwards at a tile to mindgame. About the chase mechanic, I agree with you that it tends to be buggy but I personally think it is not easy to fix, for example, how would you replace the condition of having line of sight on the survivor? Basing it simply on Terror radius or distance to the killer would probably not work that well with stealth killers. Idk, for me that seems rather complicated, maybe you have an idea?

Your ideas for Legion seem interesting, so maybe you are right and the problem isn't that he was implemented but how he was. But in the end it doesn't matter anyway, he won't go anywhere so we can only wait and see.