Banned for Intentionally Deranking (not me but a friend)

@Kilmeran said:

@ScottJund said:

@Kilmeran said:

@AChaoticKiller said:
Your friend deserved it, I don't buy that bs that people are nicer in low rank so lets depip he did it to play with lower skilled people because he does not want to play with people equal of his skill. Yes I did not read the wall of text because deranking for whatever reason is bs and your scum for doing it. Deranking only results in you making the new players feel like trash and you getting easy wins. Next time I hope he gets a longer ban. As for a causal mode with no rank this would not work in a game such as dbd. 1 player can literally kill your whole team if he's bad. I encounter this all the time in rank 1, you get a swf group with 3 rank 1 and a rank 10 or 15 and its an easy 4k because the low rank will die with no long chases so the team now has 3 people early in the game which makes the game a hell of a lot harder for them. Such will be the case in a casual mode.

As a new player to DBD, I completely agree with you. I'd like Behavior to take it a step further in the next ban-wave and permaban the ######### who derank on purpose. And this goes for their precious little streamers like Jendenise and all of them.

I derank as killer on purpose for at least a week after rank reset. If I don't, I rank up too fast and cannot play Dead by Daylight at all. Am I an #########?

In my opinion: Yes

Damn that's just unreasonable of you. You blame me instead of the terrible ranking system, so much so that you literally would prefer I don't play the game at all. What if you just randomly got banned on the 13th of every month for a week? You'd be totally cool with that, right?

@ScottJund said:

@Kilmeran said:

@ScottJund said:

@Kilmeran said:

@AChaoticKiller said:
Your friend deserved it, I don't buy that bs that people are nicer in low rank so lets depip he did it to play with lower skilled people because he does not want to play with people equal of his skill. Yes I did not read the wall of text because deranking for whatever reason is bs and your scum for doing it. Deranking only results in you making the new players feel like trash and you getting easy wins. Next time I hope he gets a longer ban. As for a causal mode with no rank this would not work in a game such as dbd. 1 player can literally kill your whole team if he's bad. I encounter this all the time in rank 1, you get a swf group with 3 rank 1 and a rank 10 or 15 and its an easy 4k because the low rank will die with no long chases so the team now has 3 people early in the game which makes the game a hell of a lot harder for them. Such will be the case in a casual mode.

As a new player to DBD, I completely agree with you. I'd like Behavior to take it a step further in the next ban-wave and permaban the ######### who derank on purpose. And this goes for their precious little streamers like Jendenise and all of them.

I derank as killer on purpose for at least a week after rank reset. If I don't, I rank up too fast and cannot play Dead by Daylight at all. Am I an #########?

In my opinion: Yes

Damn that's just unreasonable of you. You blame me instead of the terrible ranking system, so much so that you literally would prefer I don't play the game at all. What if you just randomly got banned on the 13th of every month for a week? You'd be totally cool with that, right?

Being a new player with Vets who deranked to Rank 15 before the 13th, only to then reset to Rank 17 with the reset, and come into the grey ranks with us newbies, I am unable to play the game now.

Nothing like facing Survivor SWFs at Rank 20 Killer all in Bloody Clothes, which also means Perks and Add-Ons that no newbie has yet. Which I did not encounter prior to reset. And yeah, they were all Rank 17 or 16. And I encountered crap like that more than once last night, to the point that I just walked away and fired Overwatch up for the night.

So, yeah, cry me a river, pal. I am unable to play as a newbie and not be screwed by the system you Vets love to abuse.

Withdrawn.

@ChesterTheMolester said:
ScottJund said:

@Kilmeran said:

@ScottJund said:

@Kilmeran said:

@ScottJund said:

@Kilmeran said:

@AChaoticKiller said:

Your friend deserved it, I don't buy that bs that people are nicer in low rank so lets depip he did it to play with lower skilled people because he does not want to play with people equal of his skill. Yes I did not read the wall of text because deranking for whatever reason is bs and your scum for doing it. Deranking only results in you making the new players feel like trash and you getting easy wins. Next time I hope he gets a longer ban. As for a causal mode with no rank this would not work in a game such as dbd. 1 player can literally kill your whole team if he's bad. I encounter this all the time in rank 1, you get a swf group with 3 rank 1 and a rank 10 or 15 and its an easy 4k because the low rank will die with no long chases so the team now has 3 people early in the game which makes the game a hell of a lot harder for them. Such will be the case in a casual mode.

As a new player to DBD, I completely agree with you. I'd like Behavior to take it a step further in the next ban-wave and permaban the ######### who derank on purpose. And this goes for their precious little streamers like Jendenise and all of them.

I derank as killer on purpose for at least a week after rank reset. If I don't, I rank up too fast and cannot play Dead by Daylight at all. Am I an #########?

In my opinion: Yes

Damn that's just unreasonable of you. You blame me instead of the terrible ranking system, so much so that you literally would prefer I don't play the game at all. What if you just randomly got banned on the 13th of every month for a week? You'd be totally cool with that, right?

Being a new player with Vets who deranked to Rank 15 before the 13th, only to then reset to Rank 17 with the reset, and come into the grey ranks with us newbies, I am unable to play the game now.

Nothing like facing Survivor SWFs at Rank 20 Killer all in Bloody Clothes, which also means Perks and Add-Ons that no newbie has yet. Which I did not encounter prior to reset. And yeah, they were all Rank 17 or 16. And I encountered crap like that more than once last night, to the point that I just walked away and fired Overwatch up for the night.

So, yeah, cry me a river, pal. I am unable to play as a newbie and not be screwed by the system you Vets love to abuse.

First of all, I don't personally derank past where I'm reset to (Rank 10). In fact, just about every person I know that intentionally deranks goes nowhere near 15, because that's actually in the 15-20 zone of new players and is pretty nasty bullying.

If you have people deranking to 15-20, I agree, then they are #########. Rank reset is also usually a bad time for newer players as well, as people still get jumbled together even if they do not de-rank. Your games will get better in a few days.

You said that you derank for atleast a week AFTER the reset, even if i was generous enough to give you the benefit of the doubt that you dont intent to smurf then why should other players still have their time wasted with your deranking and inevitable stomps you dish out that take place when most people started to rank back up again? 

Because rank is so irrelevant I notice no difference in survivors between 1-10. Most of the time they're getting stomped either way, regardless of whatever rank anyone is. The only variable is whether or not I physically get to play.

Withdrawn

@ChesterTheMolester said:
ScottJund said:

@ChesterTheMolester said:

ScottJund said:

@Kilmeran said:

@ScottJund said:

@Kilmeran said:

@ScottJund said:

@Kilmeran said:

@AChaoticKiller said:

Your friend deserved it, I don't buy that bs that people are nicer in low rank so lets depip he did it to play with lower skilled people because he does not want to play with people equal of his skill. Yes I did not read the wall of text because deranking for whatever reason is bs and your scum for doing it. Deranking only results in you making the new players feel like trash and you getting easy wins. Next time I hope he gets a longer ban. As for a causal mode with no rank this would not work in a game such as dbd. 1 player can literally kill your whole team if he's bad. I encounter this all the time in rank 1, you get a swf group with 3 rank 1 and a rank 10 or 15 and its an easy 4k because the low rank will die with no long chases so the team now has 3 people early in the game which makes the game a hell of a lot harder for them. Such will be the case in a casual mode.



As a new player to DBD, I completely agree with you. I'd like Behavior to take it a step further in the next ban-wave and permaban the ######### who derank on purpose. And this goes for their precious little streamers like Jendenise and all of them.



I derank as killer on purpose for at least a week after rank reset. If I don't, I rank up too fast and cannot play Dead by Daylight at all. Am I an #########?



In my opinion: Yes



Damn that's just unreasonable of you. You blame me instead of the terrible ranking system, so much so that you literally would prefer I don't play the game at all. What if you just randomly got banned on the 13th of every month for a week? You'd be totally cool with that, right?

Being a new player with Vets who deranked to Rank 15 before the 13th, only to then reset to Rank 17 with the reset, and come into the grey ranks with us newbies, I am unable to play the game now. Nothing like facing Survivor SWFs at Rank 20 Killer all in Bloody Clothes, which also means Perks and Add-Ons that no newbie has yet. Which I did not encounter prior to reset. And yeah, they were all Rank 17 or 16. And I encountered crap like that more than once last night, to the point that I just walked away and fired Overwatch up for the night.

So, yeah, cry me a river, pal. I am unable to play as a newbie and not be screwed by the system you Vets love to abuse.



First of all, I don't personally derank past where I'm reset to (Rank 10). In fact, just about every person I know that intentionally deranks goes nowhere near 15, because that's actually in the 15-20 zone of new players and is pretty nasty bullying.

If you have people deranking to 15-20, I agree, then they are #########. Rank reset is also usually a bad time for newer players as well, as people still get jumbled together even if they do not de-rank. Your games will get better in a few days.

You said that you derank for atleast a week AFTER the reset, even if i was generous enough to give you the benefit of the doubt that you dont intent to smurf then why should other players still have their time wasted with your deranking and inevitable stomps you dish out that take place when most people started to rank back up again? 

Because rank is so irrelevant I notice no difference in survivors between 1-10. Most of the time they're getting stomped either way, regardless of whatever rank anyone is. The only variable is whether or not I physically get to play.

Rank 1 is easy to achieve. That means there are plenty of people that will be instantly deranked to R10 along with you and climb right back up. I still dont see the reason of intentionally derank, never had an issue finding games after resets, not to mention an entire week. 

Are you talking about Survivor or Killer? Because the past 3 Rank Resets I ranked up too fast and had to wait 10 minutes per game, which is ridiculous.

Too bad your friend wasn't a streamer. They might have rewarded him with a "Fog Whisperer" partnership for his disconnecting instead.

@Fibijean said:
tl;dr: I understand why people get banned for intentionally disconnecting, but I think there should be a way for people to play casually, in an environment like that which you encounter at low ranks, so that they're not forced to dc in order to derank just so that they can play the game in an enjoyable, low-pressure atmosphere.

Realistically how do you expect this to happen? Sure I can see having a queue that ignores ranks entirely to speed up matchmaking but that's about it. There's no way to make the players more casual because they can queue into a mode regardless of intention.

Not bashing on your suggestion either it's a genuine question but I don't see a realistic approach to it without having made up rules on each side. Unless you literally mean ignoring rank in queue then sure.

Also props to your friend because now I know BHVR is banning people for DC's.

Wow, Someone actually got banned.GG

They should reset everyone's rank to 20 EVERY season. Ranking up is half the fun, giving you another goal. Then people wont just be stuck at 10 everytime it resets. Its not a perfect solution but its better than intentional deranks that screw over a team or useless bans.

@HP150 said:

@ScottJund said:
I derank by disconnecting quite a bit at the start of each rank reset because if I don't I literally can't play the game by ranking up too fast as killer. It sucks that I have to do it but my options are risk getting banned or have no job.

Yeah, that's a load of horse #########.
There are plenty of killers and survivors that stream exclusively in the red ranks. Some of them are bigger than you. If you have "no job" from playing killer at the top ranks then that has less to do with the queue times and more to do with the quality of entertainment you provide.

The queues occasionally become bugged, yes, but for the most part I'm waiting less than 5-10 minutes for a game at Rank 1 killer even at the dead-ends of the night/morning.

Fun Fact: League queues at the top ranks are about a thousand times worse than DBD queues even when the matchmaking is bugged, yet top ranked LoL streamers consistently have the most viewers. Could it be that the top streamers are capable of entertaining their viewers between queues and that the streamer's gameplay is good enough to make them want to stick around?

Do you really think its okay that I'd have to wait longer than the match would take just sitting in the lobby? No, I'm good, I'll derank until later in the season where I don't have to do absolutely nothing for 10 minutes while my stream is bored out of their minds.

Also any killer main that rushes rank 1 immediately says they regret it and then they start playing survivor because again, they cannot actually play killer until a week or two passes. Not sure what you're talking about, but you're wrong.

Just a silly question from a new player: What is the actual purpose of the rank-reset? If all players are re-ranked, isn't it simply the same people still playing each other, with the only difference being the rank number on their profile?

@Mrbombastic said:
ScottJund said:

@ChesterTheMolester said:

ScottJund said:

@Kilmeran said:

@ScottJund said:

@Kilmeran said:

@ScottJund said:

@Kilmeran said:

@AChaoticKiller said:

Your friend deserved it, I don't buy that bs that people are nicer in low rank so lets depip he did it to play with lower skilled people because he does not want to play with people equal of his skill. Yes I did not read the wall of text because deranking for whatever reason is bs and your scum for doing it. Deranking only results in you making the new players feel like trash and you getting easy wins. Next time I hope he gets a longer ban. As for a causal mode with no rank this would not work in a game such as dbd. 1 player can literally kill your whole team if he's bad. I encounter this all the time in rank 1, you get a swf group with 3 rank 1 and a rank 10 or 15 and its an easy 4k because the low rank will die with no long chases so the team now has 3 people early in the game which makes the game a hell of a lot harder for them. Such will be the case in a casual mode.



As a new player to DBD, I completely agree with you. I'd like Behavior to take it a step further in the next ban-wave and permaban the ######### who derank on purpose. And this goes for their precious little streamers like Jendenise and all of them.



I derank as killer on purpose for at least a week after rank reset. If I don't, I rank up too fast and cannot play Dead by Daylight at all. Am I an #########?



In my opinion: Yes



Damn that's just unreasonable of you. You blame me instead of the terrible ranking system, so much so that you literally would prefer I don't play the game at all. What if you just randomly got banned on the 13th of every month for a week? You'd be totally cool with that, right?

Being a new player with Vets who deranked to Rank 15 before the 13th, only to then reset to Rank 17 with the reset, and come into the grey ranks with us newbies, I am unable to play the game now. Nothing like facing Survivor SWFs at Rank 20 Killer all in Bloody Clothes, which also means Perks and Add-Ons that no newbie has yet. Which I did not encounter prior to reset. And yeah, they were all Rank 17 or 16. And I encountered crap like that more than once last night, to the point that I just walked away and fired Overwatch up for the night.

So, yeah, cry me a river, pal. I am unable to play as a newbie and not be screwed by the system you Vets love to abuse.



First of all, I don't personally derank past where I'm reset to (Rank 10). In fact, just about every person I know that intentionally deranks goes nowhere near 15, because that's actually in the 15-20 zone of new players and is pretty nasty bullying.

If you have people deranking to 15-20, I agree, then they are #########. Rank reset is also usually a bad time for newer players as well, as people still get jumbled together even if they do not de-rank. Your games will get better in a few days.

You said that you derank for atleast a week AFTER the reset, even if i was generous enough to give you the benefit of the doubt that you dont intent to smurf then why should other players still have their time wasted with your deranking and inevitable stomps you dish out that take place when most people started to rank back up again? 

Because rank is so irrelevant I notice no difference in survivors between 1-10. Most of the time they're getting stomped either way, regardless of whatever rank anyone is. The only variable is whether or not I physically get to play.

then just uninstall and your a terrible person and a terrible streamer

damn dude who ######### in your cereal

@shasta said:
Abyssionknight said:

If you want to depip you just disconnect at the very end. Right when you're getting death hooked, or right before you'd leave the map. Disconnecting at the start is incredibly toxic and ruins the game for everyone involved, and so I say that deserves a ban. Doing it at the end, especially if you do it in a fun way, doesn't result in you sandbagging your team or making the match too easy for the killer, so there's no reason anyone would report you for it.

If you know you're going to disconnect at the end of the match, it also means you don't have to take the match as seriously and can have a lot more fun practicing techniques, running unique builds, or even just practicing the fundamentals of the game. I'm not saying play like an idiot and feed yourself to the killer, just that you should have a little compassion and try to make your depip an experience that's useful and fun for you, as well as for everyone else involved.

Dc in any situation is wrong 

Not true. I had a game yesterday where someone's game crashed at the start of the match. Left the game at 5 gens and 3 people. One person didn't do anything to progress the game. They didn't try running or anything. So essentially it was a 2v1. I can completely understand people disconnecting in that scenario, especially if the killer just wants to farm too, and won't kill you.

@shasta said:
SovererignKing said:

@ScottJund It’s not that you rank up “too fast” it’s that Survivors rank up too slowly. They rank up slowly because they get bodied and suck balls at the game since a lot of their broken bullshit got fixed recently. Insta-blinds gone, Pallet Vaccum gone, BT getting nerfed so it’s not a brain dead “hook Rush for a freebie!”, and as of the most recent patch stupidly overpowered brain dead loops at buildings being blocked off. 

The problem isnt the ranking system, the problem is that spoiled Survivors who were so used to abusing the ######### out of broken game mechanics, perks, and items can’t rank up anymore. Plain and simple : They suck balls now they don’t have as much broken ######### to abuse. Meanwhile Killers who were USED to dealing with the broken ######### are on such an insane skill level it’s like shooting fish in a barrel because the Survivors suck balls so hardcore, and the Killers have honed their skills to the point of insanity. 

Its why Jendenise and other Survivors are deranking on purpose. They can’t win because they suck at the game. It’s why Killers like you and Tru3 can’t find games at higher rank. There just aren’t any Survivors cause they suck so bad at the game. They are trying to pull the same old bullshit they used to pull back when and get all pissy it doesn’t work anymore.

Dont blame the rank system, it’s just that Survivors suck balls. 

I’m at rank one and I don’t have the problems you say, I’ll guarantee if you face me You won’t say I suck balls at this and if survivors suck so bad why do killers need any buffs at all? I’ve saw you advocate for killer buffs but here you are acting like nothing is needed 

That actually legit confuses me too. I'm at red ranks regularly because I tend to end my streams around that range, and so many killers up there are straight up boosted. Like GOD awful. I find that more people ragequit up there, facecamp and throw games, etc. A lot of the survivors up there are immersed asf and have no clue what they're doing as soon as they're found. Hmm.

@Orion said:

@powerbats said:

@Orion said:

@shasta said:
Dc in any situation is wrong 

So if one of my family members needs an ambulance, I should just keep playing?

No but how often do we hear emergency excuses from those that're basically crying wolf in order to abuse the system? The rarity of these events will preclude you from ever getting over that threshold.

I know. I was just pointing out how stating that it is always wrong to disconnect is absurd.

Oh I figured as much.