Camping killer needs fix

Where I'm at, I play Solo survivor, never SWF, and camping ruins every single game. Probably 7/10 of my matches (red ranks). And *no one ever just does the gens and leaves*. The Killer is almost always rewarded for being a scumbag.

The problem comes in that unless someone is running Kindred, as Solos, no one knows the first person is being camped until it's too late, especially with stealth Killers. Usually, when someone is being camped they disconnect from the match, or kill themselves on the hook. So the Killer goes to the next survivor and the scenario repeats; disconnect or hook suicide, which means the game falls apart for the last two survivors and the Killer takes away over 20k BPs at least.

I'm really confused at the people saying it's not a problem or just rolling their eyes when other players talk about this. There certainly either isn't enough incentive to stop this practice, or the penalty (in bloodpoint loss) isn't enough. It's a miserable experience for me and I often just give up and stop playing for the day.

I posted these in another thread yesterday, but just a sample of my games at red ranks:

The Myers just stood there camping the basement.

• The Ghostface facecamp-teabagged me through the remaining generators.
• The Wraith literally just beat me on the hook
• Bubba- no need to say more
• Bubba and Nea working together to farm me

I don't d/c when I'm camped and will hang onto the bitter end, but most Solos will try to rescue rather than do gens. I think it's because all Solos know how bloody miserable it is to get no Blood points and endure some small d- basement dwelling teenage neckbeard getting off on making another player miserable. If you know anything about DBD, you know hard-camping from the start (not endgame) is considered a scummy tactic. So these jerks choose it fully aware they're ruining someone else's game. I think these days at Red ranks, Killers who unbashedly camp are just farming bloodpoints from Solo matches because w/o the ability to coordinate, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

But again, most solo survivors in my experience disconnect or hook suicide if they get hooked/camped first. So the Killer gets more downs/kills for those of us that remain. Everyone but Killer de-pips.

All that will happen eventually, is the Solo survivor pool will drop in numbers, maybe like, looking for an SWF group to make the game playable. So more SWF's will form, and as Killer myself, I dislike facing them so it will be discouraging especially for new Killers trying to learn. Someone else on the forums called- it's a negative feedback loop.

Killers often don't like playing against SWF's

Killers camp/tunnel the crap out of Solos

Solos feel they have to join SWF's to have a chance in a match

SWF population grows

Killers face more SWF's feel discouraged.

Wow lol. The whole idea that you think I'm hiding some crucial information is just ...bizarrely paranoid. I guess the one where the Bubba and Nea are working together must have had some kind of really great reason, eh? Something I'm HIDING.

I don't think there's any point talking to you if it's going to be that ridiculous.

Did you hit a nerve? Not really. They're cropped because I'm fairly certain you aren't allowed to post names on the Forums.

But go on. Everyone is against you. Everything is an insidious conspiracy because my screenshots will have some profound effect on...nothing lol. Not everyone is attacking you or trying to ruin your fun. If you read what I wrote, I KNOW sometimes camping, or the appearance of camping (when it might not be) is necessary or perhaps the Killer's only option. I play Killer too. Not as much, as I'm still learning, but more than enough to understand the unique frustrations. As I said, I feel pretty discouraged when I'm matched with SWF's of much higher ranks.

We aren't all gunning for you, bro. It's gonna be ok.

Yes I did, because I was sending to my friend through my phone

Complaining about camping/slugging/tunneling is basically just saying 'I'm angry I lost, and I'm going to shift the blame off of myself, because I expect Killers to play in a way I deem acceptable. Please, devs, add my rules to the game so I can have easier matches.'

It's funny that people claim killers can't:

1. Slug
2. Camp
3. Tunnel
4. Use 'crutch' perks
5. Use 'crutch' Killers

What CAN Killers do? According to allot of people here; anything except win. Winning is unfair. Playing optimally is unfair (except for Survivors; Survivors get 4 meta perks, genrush, and play in SWF groups with voice comms).

But Killers can't play optimally, or it needs changing. Survivors can genrush (IE: Play their objective fast), but killers can't camp (IE: Ensure a kill, and thus slow down the Survivor's momentum). If they do this; The Killer should actively lose BP! Or be removed from the hook zone! Or be unable to grab Survivors!

ANYTHING to give Survivors an EZ game! Anything where they lose is cheap! Stop being cheap and let Survivors win! Rofl.

I must be out of the loop and uncool. If you play on console, is it unfashionable to take a snapshot with your phone because you're too lazy to do it any other way?

I don't know about evrry other survivor main but my complaint about camping is that it's incredibly boring to be camped and it's currently a good strategy which is why killers do it resulting in boring matches. For the survivor on the hook it's the worst but it's not much fun to play as the other survivors either it's like playing against an afk killer for a couple minutes

swf needs to be fixed why should survivors get a 5th free perk?

But if the killer wants a game of 4k let and gaining nothing from camping let them. Maybe try run Deliverance if you can. That way if you make a save you can get yourself a 100% guarantee of getting off and approx a 5 to maybe 6 seconds of escaping? Everything a killer does can be countered for. Or just suicide on the hook and move to another match that's what other players do. It's really not a big deal.

I was asking legit haha. Sorry about that

Sorry so just to be clear your saying the abuse would be.....the killer is forced to stop camping even though he wants to keep camping right?

Say that last part louder, for the people in the back.

'That punishes a Killer for trying to swing momentum in their favor'.

THAT is what people want when they demand 'fixes' and 'punishments' for camping; punishing the Killer for trying to slow down the game. For trying to give themselves some more time to win. Survivors don't want that.

They want free unhooks and easy wins, so they demand the Killer's tools be nerfed.

Except most the people here told you your idea is horrible, and you've ignored them to say 'No! It's a good idea! And we all agree!' or 'People don't want it changed because they want easy games!'

It's clear your idea means YOU want easier games, dude. It's easily abused and WAS abused. Yet you don't want to hear it.

Sure if you want other nerfs/buffs I don't see a problem with that. I'm not saying fix camping and then never change anything 3lse ever again. After all removing camping is a crutch for many killers your likely going to have to buff them after in one way or another, maybe move faster or do more gen damage or have gens take x seconds more whatever works for me

Do we have to keep pointing out that the Killer's win progression is 'not allowing people to play the game' (Hooking people)?

And his win condition is knocking people out the game (Killing them)?

Survivors keep doing this shocked pikachu face when the Killer kills them, then claim different ways to 'fix' that under the excuse 'It's anti-fun'.

It's almost like they just don't want to lose.

...A Killer's goal is to kill everyone. That is how he enters a win-state. That is literally how he wins; by killing.

Just because you dislike camping does not mean it needs a nerf, or a punishment, or some half-based garbage idea about punishing killers nearby, which can be abused, because IT WAS FREAKING ABUSED IN THE PAST.

Yet people sit here 'I don't see how it can be abused'. What they can and cannot see means nothing; The idea was tried. It failed. Survivors abused it. It was removed.

I hate to use this phrase but it is literally 'end of story'. That's the story; This idea was tried. It was found to be giving Survivors free unhooks because the Killer HAD to walk away, even if walking away was actually THE WRONG MOVE. The mechanic did not care. It can't read intent or figure out one guy is camping for pressure while another is camping to be a jerk. It just forced Killers to walk away.

And given the OP's posts; that's all they want; a mechanic that forces the Killer to sod off so they can get free unhooks. They want an EZ mode.

Ain't camping ez mode? And most important mode that screws over both parties? Imagine thinking it's easy mode if u don't stare at survs soul on hook lmao