I would personally lower the base fatigue-time, currently he relies on cooldown add-ons too heavily, would make frenzy still down injured survs (so they have to actually heal) and make Mending take longer and not store progress.

I don't think the power should show auras, and mending shouldnt count as healing because it would have potency to become extremely unfun.

I think just the point 2 would make him stronger and more menacing (when No Mither doesn't really have have a downside, that's a problem). My main problem is that currently the Deep Wound doesn't put enough pressure, especially since it's silent and not affected by aura reading, so survivors can do it in safety even near the the killer. I'm not sure if it should be affected by Mangled and Coulrophobia, though.

I love the new killer. I agree with people saying (s)he should have a base 115 spped though . Maybe a couple other tweaks mentioned in this thread, but this killer can be dangerous . If 3 people are in one area that's 3 people with a one shot hit and you can chase one and down them while the others are first mending then healing . It slows the game down, but I really think the killer needs 115 speed and ultra rare add ons 

wrong post :P

@Nickenzie said:
Introduction

I been doing some research for a while now and I'll have to say, he's very weak. This is due to the fact that he can't secure his hooks easily which is what the game evolves around. For you to hook someone as The Legion, you'll need to hit a survivor with your power four times down or you can M1 a survivor with a 110% movement speed twice (or once if they are in the deep wound status effect). Both processes takes a long time to secure a hook because you are simply doing something that is inefficient. Yes, the killer is a "Pig" where (s)he can cause survivors to waste time by mending but that's not good enough to justify his weak ability to hook survivors. How Can We Make The Legion Better?

1.) When performing a normal M1 attack on a survivor without using your power, you won't drain your power gauge.

Reasoning:
(Spoiler)

2.) When using Frenzy on a injured survivor, they will be put into dying state instead of gaining the deep wound status effect.

Reasoning:
(Spoiler)

3.) Get rid of the double stun when attacking a survivor with the deep wound status effect. Pick one developers, the fatigue or the attack cool down.

Reasoning:
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4.) The mending action should be considered as a healing action and mending should take the same amount of time as a regular healing action.

Reasoning:
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5.) Show survivor's auras that don't have the deep wound status effect after instead of having a symbol in the direction of where the survivor is at.

Reasoning:
(Spoiler)

That's it, yes we may not need all of these changes but we do need most of them to make him better as a killer. Please tell me what you think below with reasoning and justification.

Don't say, "You're playing him/her wrong." Guys I watched a SWF and they weren't sweaty, they was just playing together to have fun. The killer got a few 1k and 2k by spreading the damage, the killer was obviously good but he wasn't able to get hooks easily.

Here's a video on why the killer isn't good, he doesn't have a way to get hooks. You either focus one survivor down, hope to win a 110% chase with a normal M1 attack, or pray that the survivors don't know what the mending action is. Pardon his language and I don't believe this PTB is bad, it just needs a few changes so ignore his huge exaggeration regarding the PTB patch as a whole.

P.S: Notice how every hook he got was because it's was the survivor's fault for losing a chase to a 110% M1 killer. He was also spreading the damage on his first game and look how fast survivors can mend, it practically had no effect.

Here's another one by Monto, he says everything better.

Another one with him using No Mither

Ok, according to @Janick, the power is not to shoot down survivors, okay.

• Speed: 110%
• What capacity does the killer have with power? - To injure the survivors thanks to their "killer instinct" and speed.
• How many victims could be reached? - 4.
• What does "THE LEGION" get with this? - Slow down the game
• How long? - ......
• Why do you want to slow down the game? - So that the engines do not repair you
• Purpose? - Use the power to search for survivors and injure them. Once you have 3 or 4 survivors, start a chase with a speed of 110%, how long will it take to reach the survivor having defense tools such as pallets? If the survivor is experienced or has some experience in the game the killer goes to the storeroom. The killer can slow down the game "injuring" but ... the mechanics of injuring and not knocking down is quite "strange" that a killer "injures" and there is no mechanic to "knock them down" the killer loses all its potential.

In short: I do not see much use to the power of "THE LEGION", since to demolish does not work, only to slow down the game, and if you include the factor of your base speed, it is a problem of time to capture a survivor who have defenses.

TEXT WALL INCOMING

Lets analize the killers, shall we???
pros and cons of their power (because a killer "is" their power)
duration: 6 seconds
recharge: 15 seconds (reusable after 3 seconds.. not that it matters, if you use it right away the sprint lasts for an amazing 1.5 seconds)
"new effect" applied on a hit while using the power: (d̶e̶e̶p̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶n̶d̶s̶ barely noticeable papercuts) so that the killer isn't "OP" which is essentially the BT ticker, and a nice and totally unnecessary boost to Borrowed Time, an already meta perk
pros:

• sprint burst of 120%
• can vault pallets
• unrelenting on steroids (practically no delay between hits)

• if you hit a non "papercutted" survivor the power duration is reseted, so you can use it again.
  cons:

• base speed of 110% because the power is "too good"

• muffled sounds when using the power
• c̶a̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶ ̶s̶c̶r̶a̶t̶c̶h̶ ̶m̶a̶r̶k̶s̶ scratchmarks dont spawn (if the survivor keeps runnig after you hit them with feral and took a six seconds stun, the marks dont start spawning again until the survivor stops and starts running again) when using the power
• the "papercuts" ticker doesn't goes down on chases
• feral hitting a survivor already on "papercuts" state will stun the killer for six seconds, and deplete the power bar
• feral hitting a survivor on the "papercuts" state will, instead of downing them, deplete a tiny bit of the ticker (you need to hit the survivor another FOUR times to deplete the ticker and down them unless you are using PURPLE addons, all the while giving them a nice speed boost and stunning you for six seconds after the hit)
• normal hitting a survivor will deplete the power bar
• hitting an already injured, but not "papercutted" survivor will apply the FULL "papercuts" ticker to the survivor, so you still need to hit them another four times.

Please compare the pros and the cons of the power, and tell me why do the devs feel the need of all the killers powers to handiccap them somewhat, i know people complains about clown, doc and freddy, but this is just preposterous, at this rate i'd rater have a killer at 115% with literally no power, and ill explain why.
A lot of people has suggested that the killer is Not supposed to chase people, they are not chasers they are game stallers, because pig and doctor are the top tier killers in the game, right??? wrong, the name of the game for killers is not "stalling" is "chasing" thats why the queen of the game is Nurse and the close seconds are billy and hatchet huntress, because they are good chasers, and thats why no hatchet huntres is the worst killer in the game, because of 110% speed.
So some argue that the objective of the legion should be to get as many on a injured status, but that falls flat on it's face because, unless the survivors are hugging each other linking chains in rarely gonna happen, even when the survivors are on the limit of the terror radius it's hard to get them if they see the killer sprinting, and, if you just leave one survivor "papercutted" to go afther the other the survivor will just mend and go to gen rush already a lot of optimal survivors just dont heal and, against the legion it effectively doesn't matters, because wneh the killer comes for an injured survivor they need to either use their power to get to said survivor and then it doesnt matters if the survivor is injured or not, since the bleed out ticker is applied in full injured state or not, thus requiring five more hits to down an already injured survivor, or, if the killer wants to get the survivor in one hit, they get looped forever thanks to their 110% speed, so, the killer that is supposed to capitalize on injuring multiple survivors, gets nothing for injuring multiple survivors.
The power is also counter productive for chases, as stated early, the best powers are the ones that help in the chase, not the ones that stall the game, and, since the legion's power makes it so that more hits are requiered to down a durvivor, it does not only stalls the survivors for an amazing 15 seconds, but makes the killer waste way more time trying to hit a survivor once at 110% speed while looped or four times at 120% speed with a nice stun of 6 seconds between hits and no scratch marks to track.
Also, again, the killer wins by hooking people, the "chase" powers are the ones that help the most at hooking, not the "stalling" powers or, again, pig, freddy and doc would be the top killers, they aren't, a stalling power that stalls the survivors for an amazing 15 seconds, while making it so that the killer requires to hit a survivor five times, or for the killer to totally forsake than their power exist so that they can down a survivor in two hits while moving at 110% speed, is a completely garbage power, and it does nothing to help the killer get the hooks they so desperately need.

@Juya said:
OMG, when will people understand that frenzy isn't a tool made to kill survivors, but to stagger they're by forcing to mend their wounds, and at the same time, revealing other survivors nearby.

Give him/her/them more of a chance, Legion just got out.

why not just run sloppy butcher and save the best for last on trapper? you could turn any killer into legion with these 2 perks. When a killer can be done in 2 perks and better when put on any killer with 115% ms there is a problem.

@Fenrir said:
TheBean said:

The idea behind the Fenzy attack making it difficult to down survivors is cause the power is ment to spread the pain around the survivors. Not tunnel one survivor down.

The idea from the survivor side, is that this killer isn't meant to be played as a chaser and tunneler. You frenzy.. spread the hits around.. Then hunt the injured.

You aren't ment to spend the whole time chasing the same survivor while frenzied. That is why you lose the power if you hit someone who has a deep wound. If you are chasing the survivor to hit them 4 times while in frenzy so you can down them... You are playing the killer wrong. In fact, you are playing them horribly wrong.

But if people know its the legion and spread out gen rush then the legion wont be able to spread the pain at all

furthermore, the legion has a movement speed of 110% so how the hell are they supposed to catch up with a decent surv but to go and hit them another four times with frenzy (all the while taking a nice six secons stun and giving the surv a speed boost), the "deep wounds" (more like barely noticieable papercuts) are mended in 15 seconds, thats how much the power "stalls " the game,

@thesuicidefox said:

@Orion said:

@thesuicidefox said:

@G0odNess said:
OMG please understand the legion's base speed is 110% so, please, explain to me how the [BAD WORD] are they supposed to catch a decent survivor without their "power", do the killer just plays "ring around the rosey" 'till the survivor feels like stoping???

I putting this in big text for everyone to read...

THE SURVIVOR MUST STOP TO MEND

They have to. Immediately after the chase ends, they must do that before ANYTHING else. It's not like RBT, or Madness, or normal healing even, where you can choose to do other things for at least some time before doing those actions.

It's this moment where Legion can close the gap on you, and if you are close enough the 5% less movement speed is irrelevant.

Or they can keep looping, because the timer will not go down during a chase.

Dude just break the chase LOL. Like how hard is this to understand really? The game almost seems to do it automatically for you after he fatigues. You can still totally track someone without being in a chase with them. Don't just follow them and trigger a chase, let the chase break and track them from a distance. When they stop to mend you move in and get a hit. If they run they lose time. If they do that too much they just go down because they never mend.

You guys have 0 imagination when it comes to tactics and mind games. Stop just following survivors around like a lost puppy and you will do better I swear.

break the chase so that the survivor jukes thanks to a six seconds stun, a speed boost to the survivor and no scratch marks, so that any decent survivor just breaks LOS, hides, mends in 15 seconds, and then when the killer finds the survivor it's either one M1, 110% speed hit or five "deep wounds" hits???

Nickenzie said:

MhhBurgers said:

The people who say that his power is not meant to down people.

Have you tried downing a decent survivor with 110%MS? It won't happen and no, bamboozle won't help you with it.

Frenzy should be able to down injured survivors but not down survivors who are in the deep wound status effect. This would encourage survivors to heal to the healthy state instead of running around injured.

This. This alone would change everything and would make him/her terrifying. It could be a little too strong though if you consider how long it can take to heal with sloppy butcher and/or coulrophobia. And then there’s Nurses Calling... But I think in general this is the way to go.

@Nickenzie
@Jannik

Maybe there could be different tiers of deep wound. 

Tier 1 (1 stack): dw as it is now
Tier 2 (2 stacks): timer keeps ticking during the chase (maybe at a reduced speed?)
Tier 3 (3 stacks): dw can only be mended by another survivor, medkit or self care

Tier 2 and 3 could be switched, not sure about that. 

Reasoning: this would give Legion a choice after one hit to either inflict dw upon another survivor or keep going after the first one. If he does the latter, it comes at the price of being stunned after the second hit, ending his frenzy and giving survivors a headstart.
DW would become a threat on higher tiers rather than being a minor inconvenience.