Lobby simulator

This thread had me thinking, if the game only needs 20% of players to play Killer at any given time to have full games and wait times for survivors are taking this long, I wonder how many players are actually playing killer.

It wouldn't surprise me since I almost exclusively see people playing survivors on the twitch DBD game page. and the fact that Killer for me I could only play a few games of since it can be very draining sometimes where as survivor is less work and more re-playable.

@Master said:

@ad19970 said:

@Vietfox said:
@ad19970 said:

@Vietfox said:

@Master said:

@OrionsFury4789 said:

20+ minutes with no game and getting lobby dodged along the way, I figured rank reset would speed the times up 



I thought killers have it so easy now that everybody is playing killer?

They do, the problem is that queues are bugged.

How do killers have it so easy now? Just because the game is actually quite well balanced? Killer can still be way more stressful than survivor. I mean you don't really believe killer lobby times back then were long cause everybody played killer, yet now that survivors have to wait longer it must be a bug?

I was just messing with Master a bit

Lol well that's fair enough. We are in agreement that killers are no longer underpowered. At all.

Freddy would like to have a word with you

Yeah I meant in general. You know, the good killers. Huntress, Clown, Spirit, Hillbilly and so on. Freddy is underpowered, no doubt, in my opinion not as much as others say, but he needs a bit of help. Trapper and possibly Leatherface as well. Doc and Pig could also still use some small buffs.

OrionsFury4789 said:

JawsIsTheNextKiller said:

I think killers are dodging lobbies because 4 survivors keep coming up at once, probably because the devs have sneaked the new matchmaking system in. It is muscle memory - a reflex. A bit like one of your survivor skill checks. Within a fraction of a second of 4 people popping up we hit leave.

Killers have to get used to the fact that it doesn't necessarily mean its a grief squad any more.

Are you seriously comparing skill checks to lobby dodging? LMFAO 😂 I'm dead 💀 @fcc2014 @Vietfox

@fcc2014 said:

I don't lobby dodge, I don't see the point. i'm either gonna get my ass handed to me or do some ass kicking. I honestly don't care either way.

Same, and I've had some of the best matches against full 4 flashlight squads at times since it's especially satisfying when you kill all 4.

@OrionsFury4789 said:
Thanks bats , I wish more were like that. To me that's what makes this game fun is the challenge I don't see how some of these people have fun when they Dodge for forty minutes to find the weakest lobby possible and then just smear them instantly...rinse and repeat, I think I would've thrown the game out by now if that was how it went 

I hope killers aren't dodging for 40 minutes. I easily and regularly get destroyed by deranked 4-man SWFs. It is no fun. But anyone going for the weakest lobby possible? Then I agree with you.

Most of us want a balance. I don't care about getting a specific number of kills, I just want a game were the survivors are at my level. If they are SWF, then I'd like to see them below my level. If they are 4 solos, go ahead and give me players that are all above my skill level to remove MY advantage.

@OrionsFury4789 said:

If they would just time ban the people dodging it would stop for the most part, then you're actually forced to face who's in front of you like it should be. If the ranking system got tweaked along with the time bans we would have a way better product with faster que times and faster games  that matched you accordingly

Yes and the PC/console can monitor the pings. If they are mostly red, allow the lobby quit without penalty. Those killers that don't usually lobby dodge would also get a fairer ratio of solo players if everyone has to face SWFs.

I'm the same for those dodging killers the moment the game loads or that use MLGa on either side and hopefully they do start making queue penalties.

For all the ones that say they'd stop playing go ahead really because you're just ruining things as it is even when you know it's 4 solos.

The game could be killer favored and most would still dodge and blame it on swf even if there was a separate lobby for it they'd dodge or make excuses.

@PiiFree said:

@powerbats said:
I'm the same for those dodging killers the moment the game loads or that use MLGa on either side and hopefully they do start making queue penalties.

For all the ones that say they'd stop playing go ahead really because you're just ruining things as it is even when you know it's 4 solos.

The game could be killer favored and most would still dodge and blame it on swf even if there was a separate lobby for it they'd dodge or make excuses.

All you do now is making ######### up now. I make ######### up now aswell:

There are far more Survivors using MLGA to block Killers than there are Killers that frequently lobby dodge for "no reason".

What now?

So what am I making up, cmon now you made the claim now back it up, so time to put your proof where everyone can see it.

Also I never said there were more killers using MLGA than survivors now did I, but hey nice try or it would've had i actually claimed that.it would've been had I claimed that.

@PiiFree said:

@powerbats said:
So what am I making up, cmon now you made the claim now back it up, so time to put your proof where everyone can see it.

Also I never said there were more killers using MLGA than survivors now did I, but hey nice try or it would've had i actually claimed that.it would've been had I claimed that.

Your lack of reading comprehension is pissing me off. Where did I say that YOU claimed that more Killers use MLGA? Please take the time to actually understand what you just read before creating nonsense like that. It was just a random thing that I claimed to demonstrate your way of "discussing" with absolutely no relation to ANYthing you said previously.

That's the ######### you made up:

@powerbats said:
The game could be killer favored and most would still dodge and blame it on swf even if there was a separate lobby for it they'd dodge or make excuses.

If there is no reason to dodge, there is no dodging.

I'm not the one with lack of reading comprehension here, you posted that in response to me thus implying i said it and now you're backtracking and trying to deflect blame onto me.

The only one not putting relation here is you by trying to deflect and claim things then when called toss more blame.

Yet you fail to see the actual logic behind what I said still since some killers on here have stated quite clearly they'll dodge even solo players if they don't like the outfits, items etc.

So since some killers have stated they'd still have a reason to dodge that means that you guess it there would be dodging.

Now before you go trying to bash me again read what I said and realize I had facts behind what I said and I didn't make that up.

@OrionsFury4789 said:
PiiFree said:
All you do now is making ######### up now. I make ######### up now aswell:

There are far more Survivors using MLGA to block Killers than there are Killers that frequently lobby dodge for "no reason".

What now?

Maybe on PC but on any other platforms it's the other way around

Maybe, that's your experience. I rarely get dodged, doesn't matter if I play on PC or PS4.

I honestly see a lot more Survivors joining a lobby and leaving it again, mostly because they try to stream snipe their favourite streamer. That's technically exactly the same as Killers dodging lobbies.

At least you're getting the better one out of the 2 choices.
I wish i got more lobby dodges than ingame dodges...

OrionsFury4789 said:

Tsulan said:

OrionsFury4789 said:

PigNRun said:

I lobby dodge for fun. I wait for the countdown to reach 6 seconds left and leave lobbies. I call it Last Second Dodging. Like it? 

Yes and I can't wait until they start banning for it so that way I can call it "an [BAD WORD] getting what they deserve"  when those same people get on here crying about being locked out of the game

Ban for lobby dodging? Where people lose just some seconds of their time to requeue?
Are you serious?

Btw, killers started dodging at the last second, when last second switching became popular. 
Cause and effect. 

A few seconds? I waited a damn hour for a match last night found a  couple matches in five minutes they dodged twice and then it took an hour don't  tell me it's a few seconds of my time wasted , and we weren't last second switching or any of the above it's totally uncalled for and if someone is so chicken ######### they don't want to play the game then they shouldn't , if your ping sucks I'm ok with it but for any other scenario even emergencies if you aren't able to play chances are you'll be done with whatever your doing by the time the ban  would be finished 

@PiiFree said:

Thank you, the only thing I realized is that you're wasting my time with your excessive and nonsensual bias.

Translation: You realized you made a mistake and don't want to admit it and so go the troll route.

Oh and one last tidbit I've been maining killer for months now and I've got no bias here, I call out both sides equally.

@Tucking_Friggered said:
Think it's bad now? Give it two weeks after dedicated servers and killers know every match is a SWF group.

4 strangers = 30%
2 friends + 2 strangers = 34.1%
2 friends + 2 friends = 9.5%
3 friends + 1 stranger = 17.9%
4 friends = 8.5%

If all the killers that spent so much time complaining on the forums day in and day out spent half that time trying to get better and not dodging they'd realize swf isn't that hard to play against.

OrionsFury4789 said:

Tsulan said:

OrionsFury4789 said:

Tsulan said:

OrionsFury4789 said:

PigNRun said:

I lobby dodge for fun. I wait for the countdown to reach 6 seconds left and leave lobbies. I call it Last Second Dodging. Like it? 

Yes and I can't wait until they start banning for it so that way I can call it "an [BAD WORD] getting what they deserve"  when those same people get on here crying about being locked out of the game

Ban for lobby dodging? Where people lose just some seconds of their time to requeue?
Are you serious?

Btw, killers started dodging at the last second, when last second switching became popular. 
Cause and effect. 

A few seconds? I waited a damn hour for a match last night found a  couple matches in five minutes they dodged twice and then it took an hour don't  tell me it's a few seconds of my time wasted , and we weren't last second switching or any of the above it's totally uncalled for and if someone is so chicken ######### they don't want to play the game then they shouldn't , if your ping sucks I'm ok with it but for any other scenario even emergencies if you aren't able to play chances are you'll be done with whatever your doing by the time the ban  would be finished 

If you want even longer queues, then proceed and propose bans for lobby dodging.

Since there is no way to see the other survivors ping, the killer might have dodged because of the other survivors. 

Either the long survivor queues are a matchmaking issue like the killer queues a month ago, or killers left and there are to many survivors.

Anyway, you could just switch sides and get instant lobbies. 

Yes that's true and when it gets that way I usually do that but my point is when I do want to play a certain game mode I should be able to do it because I paid for the game to have that option available, and yes I do play swf alot and not solo because I have alot of friends that play this game and that's how we keep in contact

@powerbats said:
Translation: You realized you made a mistake and don't want to admit it and so go the troll route.

Oh and one last tidbit I've been maining killer for months now and I've got no bias here, I call out both sides equally.

That's an "on point" translation of our little conversation we had, well done :^)