Give me valid reasons for hook suicides to be in the game still.

"Why do we need to care about their "perspective" when they don't have any care for anyone else after all?"

Definite case of pot calling the kettle black.

You do not care about their perspective because you think they don't care about you. Yet it's bad when they do it, because they realize you don't care about their fun. Apparently. Shook.

""I will screw everyone else in a match when anything bad happen for me and this is always on them"."

you really need to get off social media man the majority of people who go next do not think this way, live a little, listen to people and maybe you'll learn that not everything is as you think it is.

i definitely think normalized is pushing it. like i said in my first post, tons of these anti hook surrender threads show up on forums. it's not as widely accepted as "normalized" suggests it is.

i personally don't mind if people give up in my matches because frankly i'm too old to remotely stress out over such things. such is life and i can't let someone else ruin my match because they pressed a button a few times.

I'm fine with DCers as far as they get punishment. But when it comes to the hook folks... The fact that they just leave after the slightest inconvenience and get no punishment just proves that they'll do it again and again, it's already in their nature.

meh. i've done it like once recently because going against dredge makes me feel ill. i feel generally most people don't do it more than twice a day because it'd be a little silly to

Some people doing a thing doesn't make something normalized. Some people on this planet eat others people, and post about doing so. Is it normal for people to eat people and post about eating people? No.

I fully believe --- like cannibals --- these hook giver-uppers are the vocal minority. An unfortunate vocal minority sure, but still a minority. Referring to the original post, I don't think removing self unhooking fixes the issue, because if someone just wants to not participate, they can stand still and not participate and eventually the killer will get so bored and kill them, or they will die to bleeding out. There has to be a smarter way of doing things than lazily removing self unhooking and thinking it fixes the whole issue.

I never said you wanted to remove unhooking. I just said something in reference to the original post, as we were starting an irrelevant argument and we should've gotten back on topic. Your suggestion isn't the greatest either. My friends and I use slippery meat and luck offerings, and if we get downed fast we shouldn't be able to use our offerings / perk? Seems a little silly...

Deliverance exists for a reason. That being said, it goes without saying that if they decide to address the problem with an unhooking mechanic then they'll have to overhaul certain perks/offerings. Or maybe just start punishing players that abuse unhooking. Or both. It all depends on them.

The thing is, each mentioned case just shows that they became tired of the game. And the only solution here is to take a break and, thus, stop spreading negativity and ruining the game for others.

Deliverance doesn't do what I want it to do though. Slippery Meat and luck offerings ignores the unhook factor of Deliverance which you can't always guarantee per match. I feel you are missing my point.

I'd rather not have a whole mechanic and perks and offerings overhauled just because people can't handle that not everyone in their match wants to stay in it. Unironically, preaching all about fun for others introduces a system that could in fact, ruin fun for others by ruining a fun build for them.

I won't bother to disagree with you because this wasn't the point that I was trying to make. The point was in two last sentences that you've smh decided to ignore.

Your experience isn't the same as mine. I don't get ragequitters every 2nd or 3rd game, so yeah, of course I disagree with your suggestion. You're not the only person playing dbd right now, man. Sucks you get a lot of people who give up but your experience isn't the same as everyone else's.

Never said that it was.

I still don't think it's statistically possible for this to be a majority of matches to I cannot see why devs should be in any rush to fix this. Face it man, you're in a minority of people

Because I'm not talking to them anymore? Like I said in my post, I'm going to stop interacting with them. And I have.

Whatever you have to tell yourself at night to justify your anger at someone simply just going next in a match.

Yes. I've never once said I've been on the side of the people who give up on hook yet everyone assumed I was because I said something they didn't want to hear.

"And now you're telling me that this is nothing and shouldn't be addressed. Yikes, this is totally unbiased opinion from a person that previously admitted deliberately quitting an already started game."

I never said it shouldn't be addressed. I said, the devs aren't in a rush to fix it, because this isn't happening in a majority of games, that is a completely separate opinion than saying this shouldn't be addressed. I am pointing out your case is a minority of cases and the devs probably aren't going to drop everything to fix it.

And you're using the fact I mentioned I left a match against a Dredge ONCE (I even specified once, and it was because Dredge makes me feel unwell) against me because you think it means I'm biased. You're shutting what I have to say down and you're covering your ears like a child and are going "la la la la la". Actually listen to what I'm saying and you'll realize I've never said what you're claiming that I said. Don't be ridiculous like this.

If someone DC's or hook kts during the first 2 minutes of a match. Replace those players with a bot. Such a simple fix I can't believe it's not implemented yet.

Lot of comments over such a ridiculous thread subject.

Let's say that the survivor that wants to commit suicide, can't... because 'that mechanic' is taken out of the game...

Well... there's nothing making that survivor actively help out their teammates. They can go into a locker somewhere and go idle... or just walk around doing nothing. You can't make the survivor actually contribute, so this thread is moot. A suicidal survivor isn't going to help the team, whether or not they are allowed to commit suicide.

Wouldn't lose too much sleep if there were stronger penalties for DCing and suicide on hook.

Suicide on hook needs to stay in the game, as if it's down to 2, you can suicide to give hatch. It's also not a bad thing to consider if gens are/almost done but you're hooked in basement that'll likely get 1, 2 or even 3 survivors killed trying to get you out.

I think simply tracking regular suicides/DCs combined with an unsportsmanlike report to doll out harsher penalties is the most logical solution. Survivors should definitely report cause it just handed the Killer a huge advantage, and 3/4 reports in a game has to be a flag.

Well then we get into the realms of do you remove genuine gameplay decisions because a select group of players kick their toys out of the pram?

There are methods to manage these kinds of things. If I were to spitball a tracking mechanism design (cause you don't want to start tracking people unless you need to):

• Keep a small hidden list in the player profile that monitors number of DCs within the last 31 days. I
• If over a certain threshold % of DCs per month out of games played, then enable report tracking.
• If unsporting reports start to accumulate, and the DC list is long, you have strong evidence for a leaver. Issue bans accordingly.