Dead by Daylight veterans quit and they are probably never coming back

Every time I decide to reduce the shift-w-ing and focus on staying on a tile for a little I get killers where you can't fall my do that. They've added a number of those now. And I find it really sad. As killer too: one thing I really enjoy as killer is to play around a tile with M2 --- and it always saddens me to see the w away.

now on topic: I don't think it's quite as bad/ it's not quite as extreme as you put it but it is the overall impression I get as well.

The only veterans players I know who left the game did it because "there's no more fun here." They were all survivor mains, and in personal conversations with them I realized that all their fun was in the most broken, unbalanced and unfair things that ever existed in the game. They just felt so untouchable and power for 5000 hours, so when a semblance of competition began to appear in the game, and their broken things disappeared, "fun" went with them.

You can still find their montages on yt with stretched resolution, where they press old dh every 10 second, tb and pretend that they are better at this game than the killer.

Who says you can't be chill? You don't have to survive tbh, as survivor I really don't expect it either unless the killer lets us or isn't very good

I've been playing the game for several years now, having played both killer and survivor relatively evenly. I do have to say that the game was in a much better state years ago. It felt more balanced for both sides of the coin (yet that's going to be a matter of opinion and moot point anyway). That said, I have a rather long post of ideas/opinions:

1. SOLO-QUEUE VS. GROUP-PLAY (SWF):

The primary issue with the survivor side of the coin is there's just such a huge disconnect between solo-queuing and playing with a four-stack of friends. With all the survivor nerfs over the past several months to years, the gap is simply far too wide to see much success in solo-queue games. Even matches where you have one or two friends join you, that one or two solo-queuers are at such an incredible disadvantage by not being able to communicate with the suvivors playing together. They almost always become a liability and (often unbeknownst to them) sabotage the entire game for the rest of the survivors. With a full group of friends, we will generally win the majority of games which is to be expected with a decently skilled survivor group. With solo-queuing, you're lucky to have two or more survivors escape... if you even make it to the end-game phase.

The survivor nerfs aren't all to blame though. If anything, I understand most of them to an extent. The issue is that there's just no communication system in the game. Sure, the survivor action display is helpful, but it barely provides solo-queuers with much. I don't believe in-game voice is a good idea because it will just get incredibly toxic. However, we need some sort of pinging-style communication system like many other multiplayer games have. There was another horror game that I fail to remember the name of that had a pretty robust communication system. Something similar to League of Legends' pinging-system would even suffice (ie: alert survivors you're going to a hook, you see the killer, the etc.). There just needs to be some sort of communication system that exists to share information like you would in a voice chat.

When I play killer, it's very evident when a survivor group is a pre-made SWF or solo-queuers. Games against SWFs can often be frustrating because they work so well to "bully" the killer. Something our SWF group will do too. Though I feel like the amount of games where I go up against a SWF is severely outweighed by solo-queuers. With solo-queuers, I'm almost always guaranteed a four-kill. So realistically, I'm fine going up against a SWF here and there making SWFs not the problem.

2. SURVIVOR ITEM RE-WORKS AND IMBALANCES:

A secondary issue I feel is that survivor items are becoming less and less appealing to bring. Maps and keys are just downright awful. Maps don't last very long to begin with, though their purpose is pretty short lived once you ping the map once to check for any hex totems, gens, etc. You might use it longer for killer belongings, but even then it's a pretty lacklustre item to bring and in need of a serious re-work.

Keys are even more lacklustre and are in desperate need of some sort of re-work. About the only thing a key is useful now is for identifying a solo-queue survivor on your team that's (most likely) going to be passive and hide all game, waits for everyone to die, and comes out of a locker at the end because they have a hatch challenge. With the upcoming buffs to killer end-game perks like Remember Me, maybe the keys can be used to unlock exit gates much faster.

Med-kits didn't really need a change a few months back. If they were a problem for you as a killer, it probably just meant you weren't committing to them (within reason... you're not going to chase one survivor all game). This holds even more true with the anti-heal killer perks that didn't see any sort of adjustment. Sloppy Butcher is just a pain. Miss one skill-check or have to run away for a sec? Too bad, your med-kit is useless now if you don't have add-ons to increase its usage. A happy medium? Nerf the two common-tiers of med-kits, but it seemed kind of silly to adjust the high-tier ones when the average survivor isn't going to come across them very often.

Now we're getting tool-kit nerfs. Sure, it's more specific with Brand New Parts, but it felt a little unnecessary (as did the Prove Thyself nerf) considering the buffs to gen-regression killer perks like Pop Goes the Weasel, Jolt, and Pain Resonance making a comeback. Early game is usually about the only serious generally-guaranteed pressure that survivors get, so it feels like a severely misguided change from Behaviour. The longer the game goes on, the higher the pressure generaly becomes for the killer. End-game is always very killer pressure-heavy especially with crutch perks like NOED, especially when paired up with No Way Out and Blood Warden (hey, another reason to re-work keys to open exit gates quickly).

Flashlights are really about the only somewhat reliable item which I won't speak more on.

3. COMBATING EGREGIOUS KILLER BEHAVIOUR

I want to (once again) preface this by saying I play killer about as much as I play survivor (since playing solo-survivor is just awful). So killer mains, you don't have to come for me with pitchforks. There's already some plans to introduce an anti-camping system for survivors which I'm happy to hear. Sure, once end-game commences, there's nothing else for a killer to do besides secure the kill, so I don't think survivors need to complain about camping at end-game. No further talk about that is needed.

There was also talk about baseline Unbreakable to combat slugging a while back. Why did that conversation fizzle out? I think it's still something to explore further. No, it wouldn't be unlimited Unbreakable attempts, it would be much like it exists now--you can get up once. So it's up to the survivor to use their "get-out-of-jail-free-card" wisely. Though I would say slugging is maybe the least of the three problematic egregious behaviours killers possess.

Tunneling is the last one. I'd say this is probably the most frustrating of the three but also the one that I really have no suggestions on when it comes to combating it. About the only thing I can think of is having the baseline Borrowed Time constantly renew itself if you continue to be chased while there is at least three survivors remaining. Though it's something that I'm sure could be abused. It's a suggestion nonetheless.

We killers really shouldn't have to rely on any of these behaviours to win since we have such a wide array of perks. A good killer won't even resort or rely on these anyway. It's kind of the unspoken rule that you don't resort to these. A killer resorting to these is just a textbook example of a poorly skilled killer. Really.

4. SHARED ADD-ONS

I think this final one might be a nice way to end my waaaay-too-long-of-a-post. This would likely be easier to implement for survivors, though I feel like if the coding for killer add-ons is how I think it is, it wouldn't be a lot of work to implement. It would just be great to have all survivor add-ons/belongings combined into one universal bank so you can play whatever survivor you want. This wouldn't apply to perks of course. If anything, it's probably even a financial gain to Behaviour if they implement this as more cosmetics would be sold. I know I'd be purchasing cosmetics for characters I think are cool but I don't play because they have nothing on them. And I know that if I feel this way, someone else out there shares a similar feeling.

When it comes to killers, I think that the killers add-ons are coded into their rarity types rather than the add-on names themselves as I think it keeps their work more simplistic and organized. There are usually more than one of the same rarity, so they're probably named like "UltraRare_1" and "UltraRare_2" or "Rare_1", "Rare_2", and "Rare_3", etc. I could be wrong though. Going on the assumption that this is the case, it should be feasible to still bank all of the killer add-ons together by the rarity type. Let's say you have 100 ultra-rare-1 add-ons, 80 ultra-rare-2 add-ons, 300 very-rare-1 add-ons, 275 very-rare-2 add-ons, etc. you'd still have that in your bank across all killers. Only the name of the items unique to that particular killer will change. It's kind of difficult to explain any simpler (especially at this hour), but I think this could be a great way for Behaviour to make some money on additional cosmetics and a way to potentially see more diversity amongst killers.

APOLOGIES FOR THE LONG POST.

I agree to most of this.

Tunneling is not necessary to do at 5 or 4 gens or when you have lots of pressure to begin with. But when I only have 2 hooks and 3 gens are done (even if I have quick chases), there is not much I can do besides tunneling if I want to have a chance of winning and not get BMed at the gates later.

Again, you don't have to escape to have fun lol

Gen rush is if you're only wanting to win and most of the time won't work out anyway unless you're SWF or the killer isn't applying enough pressure