I miss Old CoH and Medkits so much man..

I would at least want Medkits to not feel all samey. I think allowing Greens to remove the self-heal speed penalty (for a 16s self heal, the old brown speed) and Purples to remove the self-heal inefficiency penalty with 32 charges (allowing for 2 heals on self and allies basekit, but self still taking 24s) would be good. Just like when they changed hatch and keys, and they made Keys near worthless not worth being in Bloodwebs, similar could be said about the current Medkits rarer than Brown.

I think Self-Care also should be buffed, but I almost want it to still be under 50%, maybe 45% would be fine. That way people know self-healing is less effective, but can still have the option.

Rebalancing Self-Care and reverting Botany would be considerable.

The med-kit rarities being the same for self heals doesn't really matter when the ability to self-heal even at 33% penalty is still strong.

Not to mention Syringes and Styptics are quite powerful addons med-kits enable.

I think their power level is fine as a whole.

I don't like that the Med-Kits are all functionally the same though.

I miss when medkits were actually different

Literally no point in using medkits beyond common

Medkits and toolboxes are still good its just you cant have everyone bring 4 and have 3 self heals per medkit. Also flashlights are still very good with you being able to start the blind early but still "save" them because funny .4 second buffer that makes em nearly brainless.

Flashlights: You've never used a beamer to blind a Killer at a Pallet Break? Even if they have headphones with their capability to track footstep audio, the blindness still significantly increases potential mindgames.

Keys: Totally agree.

Maps: Also agree, and it's not like you can use them to give your allies information if you're not in a SWF.

Toolboxes: no Sabo plays at all? Don't even need to use it at the start, hold onto it until the Killer is near or you're at the last couple-a gens.

Medkits: par for the course. However sloppy reduces healing speed, it doesn't reduce healing efficiency, so you'll still get the same healing out of them, just slower.

Medkits are still nice, you can push 2 heals with them now at much fairer speeds.

Both things you mentioned really killed the killer's pressure and made it so that in a lot of cases you had to commit to chases.

In some cases you might not be able to win if the survs bring 4 medkits and you dont have franklins since your ability to spread pressure is 0 since everyone can just solo heal in 10 seconds or less. Same with COH especially in a team or an indoor map.

The only form of self heal that has been fine is medkits how they are now and old selfcare (which I really think should be back at 50% and not 35 oof).

engineer's is better if you use double charges unless you are a hyperfocus enjoyer.

They can be a self healing item, but if they are anywhere close to before it is simply too strong and no I am not talking about healing your mates. With a syringe you can get yourself 2 full self heals with 1 medkit.

Self healing is a risky bet in the game since healing on average is designed to take 2 survivors and that by itself is fine, its why it was a bad idea they made all healing take 24 secs in the PTB. Self healing already cuts that time in half in terms of time efficiency which doing it once and especially at 24 seconds is probably fine. But getting a bunch of heals at 16 seconds or less on yourself is just too powerful, especially for some of the weaker killers.

Killer mains here have always complained about the speed at which gens are completed; even during the Erupt-Over-Brine era.

Circle of Healing was a whole can of worms I wish BHVR never opened.

It's a parasite that completely redefined the way Survivors think about the game.

Both nerfs were necessary, but the medkit nerfed felt a bit uninspired. Give all medkits the same charges and heal speed, then include the ability to remove status effects like Haemorrhage, Deep Wound, Mangled, and possibly even Hindered.

I've no suggestions for how to implement those into the game, I just think the medkits need more situational value. Maybe you have a medkit that doesn't even heal, it just removes status effects, idk.

I'm a huge fan of Hit N' Run because it brings the horror element back into the game. Survivors should always be looking over their shoulder, and there is just too much security in knowing you can sit on a gen for 90s because the Killer needs to commit to their current chase or they will lose the game. Sitting on a gen is boring, but the threat of the Killer showing up at any moment goes a long way towards making it fun and engaging.

The medkits do become a lot more different from each other and better if you are using it to heal your team mates.

Also, you can just bring a brown addon and a syringe to get your two heals one of which you can have whilst moving or even in a chase. I know you need an iri but again it is a powerful effect.

I think overall it is just too risky to buff self healing of medkits in any way since if you made it so a ranger medkit basekit like before could get two heals that can already be a bit much to deal with.

Maps are the most consistently useful item in the entire game.

Keys are still useful, but you can't go into games playing for hatch from the start. They have lots of other effects that are useful.

Alex's toolbox is consistently useful for sabo, it's literally never changed.

Flashlights have the same consistency they've had for basically most of their existence.

If you really needed 4 heals out of a ranger kit to have fun then you have different issues outside of item consistency.

Ok, I'll give you flashlights on Switch.