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It's always easier to call out others and dont adjust or improve depending on the situation. As survivor player you have the high ground here.. you're 4 players vs 1 player after all, it's pretty clear that after 7+ years the situation didnt change and it's not going to change at this point. Every strat and perk has been already optimized for both sides. I'm sure I'm not telling you any news here by all means but bhvr and their constant crusade on things being too "opppressive" (giant buzzword used constantly on patch notes) is undoing their own game piece of by piece..

The more people have strong opinions and bias on one side and bhvr is forced to act.. the more "tunneling" will be always the most effective tactic as killers now have very little going and it's incredible punishing if you're facing decent/good survivors. Removing strats, decimating gen defense perks only fuels the only viable strat VS GOOD/DECENT survivors.. I'm not talking about the player that has music on and he's watching a stream on his 2nd monitor, no. I'm talking about the players that know how to actually make the killer waste as much time as possible while there's 2-3 teammates working on the gens on every single chase the killer takes..

All I'm going to say that since they killed gen defense perks, nerfed corrupt intervention, removed hook grabs and soon punishing or killing 3 gens to later this year to straight up penalize "camping" (it's so vague the use of it when in most situations survivors put preassure on the killer by staying around the book on purpose) survivors players SHOULD understand that focusing (aka tunneling) will be even more effective as strat..

I'm sure the majority celebrating on twitter and here will be extremely happy when they get bots for killers and they will only get "unfun" matches when the killer has to use the only viable strat for decent/good survivors..

Hahahahaha it always makes me laugh when i read this "survivor mistakes" hehehe.... dam deacklock activate -_-

Most people who say this absolutely do not want to face that level of coordination or have the game balanced around that level of play. You should be ok with playing against survivors playing with that level of coordination on a consistent basis if you're ok with a mechanic being balanced around it. And even if that is the case, no game of DbD should push beyond the 20 minute mark.

Agree with every single word. These are literally my thoughts too, but I couldn't have said it better.

'Denied of your endgame 1k' is not really a fair way to phrase it - firstly considering the fact that you're reached endgame with no kills in the first place and secondly because you cannot get a kill without tunnelling and camping one survivor out; since according to your logic the only way to get an endgame kill is through bypassing the 'basekit BT protection' to tunnel and kill one survivor. Just because you are a killer player this does not mean you deserve a kill and this mentality is exactly why the basekit BT was added in the first place; to actually give individual survivors a chance to escape killers to solely want to kill them and no one else.

Perhaps survivors still have abusable mechanics in this game which need fixing, but to act like the devs have not already tried to fix potentially unfavourable mechanics that act against killer players is rather derogatory and rude. I will list some of the buffs killers have received:

• Dead Hard nerf
• Generator time increase to 90 seconds
• Medkit nerfs
• Hit recovery time decrease
• Pallet/generator/wall destruction time decrease
• Endurance non-stacking effect, removal with conspicuous actions
• Decisive strike/Off the record removal in endgame
• 2.5% instant damage when kicking generators

Yes there are problems in this game, I agree. However, you must understand that if this game becomes anywhere near completely 'balanced', e.g. the removal of survivor strategies with perks (as you mentioned) or the concept all killers [m1 or not] having equal chances to win, this game would be so, so boring. Dead By Daylight is not built to be a balanced game, therefore this concept of being 'outsmarted by the mechanics of the game' has always applied to both killer and survivor and always probably will. Here are some examples of this in survivor:

• Getting hit through a window when the hit doesn't appear to connect
• Running into a dead zone that simply exists because of RNG
• Simply no option to make a 4-man escape against a basement Bubba due to his ability to camp with no downside

and for killer:

• Unnecessarily large maps with generators almost impossible to patrol
• Unplayable loop setups that make chasing feel arduous rather than fun

& many more on both sides. The point is, Dead By Daylight is not, and was not created as a balanced game and therefore often the game itself can feel like it is against you.

The devs are adding these mechanics (such as basekit BT etc) because they want to make Dead By Daylight into the game it is meant to be. Dead By Daylight is meant to be a thrilling game where the killer traverses the map hunting 4 survivors, not a game where a killer hunts and camps one particular survivor to get one kill. At this moment in time, I agree that the playstyle of NOT camping/tunnelling may be really punishing and you may feel forced to do so due to genrushing/too many pallets/overpowered loops etc... but until the devs remove the effortless nature of camping and tunnelling, they cannot nerf said genrushing/too many pallets/overpowered loops because that would simply make camping and tunnelling more powerful, oppressive and potentially drive most of the survivor playerbase away from the game.

It is actually a concrete fact that killer has received more buffs over the past year than survivor, so I would appreciate if you possibly understood that yes these developers ARE listening to you and are trying!! But until they add/alter mechanics to sort out the large CURRENT problems in the survivor/killer experience right now, they cannot progress to an overall better game. Although some mechanics that the devs add may currently feel punishing and abusable, they are often added with consideration to a larger plan that hopes to change the macro-level gameplay experience that perfects the fine line of Dead By Daylight being 'party game' that still offers competitive intensity/payoff.

Like Jack the Reaper said, "let's go by parts":

Of course, you have take it the "camping" way. But the point isn't a 1K being "rightfully yours" or not. Of course you don't have the right to any kill. But if the only reason I didn't get a 1K is because the basekit BT prevented me to down not even the hooked survivor, but the unhooker, as they are going to use that free Endurance to make a protection hit and then the unhooker would proceed to leverage his healthy state to body block you from downing the unhooked survivor again, then, I have being denied of a 1K not because survivors played extremely good or because one of them even thought of bringing BT to the game for cases like this. No, I wasn't able to even get a 1K because the basekit BT mechanic prevent the killer to be able to do anything in that situation unless survivors screw up. That's it. Because in a normal situation one of the two should have go down, but they didn't just because the free Endurance. So, sorry if the wording of it triggered you, but the mechanic have denied me a 1K in that situation.

Can you tell me where I have said that "the devs have not already tried to fix potentially unfavourable mechanics" for killers, if you don't mind? Because I think that what I clearly pointed out is, in any case, that those fixes and perk changes you mentioned there came after years of people complaining and without anyone even knowing they were coming in the first place. In fact, the "two years" phrasing was a reference of what happened with the unexpected nerf to DH. We could also talk about the efficiency of any of those changes, but that's another topic. Also, I think you are confusing "perks" with "game mechanics" when they are not the same.

Now, again, are you so kind of telling me where I said things like "the removal of survivor strategies with perks" (whatever that means) or that I want "all killers having equal chances to win"? Because if it wasn't by the first part of your post, I would think that you made a mistake and was really answering other post. But what most surprises me is that you really think that any of those things would make the game boring, but making survivors gameplay more brainless (as now they don't even have to think if they are leaving a good last gens to the killer) not.

But the funny part is that all your survivors examples of "being outsmarted by the mechanics of the game" aren't really base game mechanics, while your two examples for the killer are, in fact, base game mechanics that work that way by design. By design. That's the difference.

And sincerely, the rest of your post is too much to even try to make a good argument against it (they implemented base BT because they wanted to "make Dead By Daylight into the game it is meant to be"? Really? And they can not nerf "genrushing/too many pallets/overpowered loops" because that would somehow make camping and tunneling worst? Seems legit...), so I'm just going to wish you a great day.