Hawkins National Laboratory has some broken loops

Always a great indoor map.

And good it is back as we don´t have enough indoor maps.

Yes, opinions differ.

I get that the high MMR competitive may not like it.

But as a more casual player i don´t care. Map looks cool and is a welcome diference from alle these outdoor spaces.

I remember being so happy when it was removed. Not at all excited to play on it again, at least not in it's original form.

Of course people were going to complain instantly (not directed to you OP don’t have to repeat yourself).

from a casual PoV it’s great to have this map back. It’s only miserable against sweaty player - but which map isn’t to some degree?

Back in the day, whenever I thought "Hey, I want to play Billy", it was Hawkins 9/10 times. Random. Without any Offering or increased Odds.

Kinda makes me wonder if old Skull Merchant would be stronger or weaker than Knight on Hawkins.

hawkin is the type of map with infinity pallet loops where you can pre-drop and go in circles. if you tried to play any of the pallets, they were unsafe such that killer could easily hit you.

what made map killer sided is how claustrophobic the map was. because generator could spawn in rooms and in hallways, it was REALLY easy for survivor that are looping to run into each other on generators. when survivor would play the map, you would see most survivors work on that 2nd floor safe gen on far end while everyone else was experienced bloodbath in the center map. camping hook was deadly on hawkins. I usually start working on 3rd floor gen because it was risky gen that is difficult to complete as you would have ignore any TR notifications from bottom floor. if the killer goes up to 3rd floor then you would almost certainly take an opening hit and fall through the hole making your chase with killer way harder.

I'm just so happy they didn't touch the stair collisions. That one room with 2 tanks, where one is open one is closed, with the yellow railing? I used to be able to do so many funky plays there and I still can and I'm so thankful.

I hated this map so much as was so happy when it went away. This is terrible, terrible news. Why are you doing this to us, BHVR?? Guess I'll be using map offerings for a while to increase the chances that I won't get sent to Hawkins...

Odd, I seem to remember frequently being brought there by killers any time they wanted an easy 4k or an adept achievement. They must have just wanted it to be extra challenging....

They are. The map is loaded with unsafe pallets. Playing on it again reminded me of how bad most of them are.

The sad thing is that the devs knew about this yet chose to re-release it with zero changes.

I always liked the map even back then. It's got some strong loops for survivors but pretty much all the pallets out in the corridors are terrible and can be played around easily by killers.

Also the drop-down hole allows for some fun memey plays.

That's assuming the survivors aren't in a SWF, the survivors aren't running anything that can aura read nearby teammates, the survivors aren't just casually aware of which generators are being working on... and the survivors aren't just running away to hide when the visual terror radius happens. And that's assuming that If a repairing survivor hides while the chased survivor passes by a generator with progress, that the chased survivor doesn't have the common sense to take the chase far away. It's also assuming the killer isn't tunneling, because if the killer is tunneling then they might not care if they see someone else running away from a generator.

People should also remember the upper floor on this map is sometimes a boil over nightmare for killers, if there isn't a hook on the stairs. And the small upper floor in one of the side rooms (with the generator) can also be a boil over nightmare for killers.

And there are so many pallets, so survivors will just keep predropping them, and even if the pallets are unsafe, it's still not good for the killer to keep walking around the pallets.

And when a killer tries to walk a survivor to a hook, and the path to the hook passes by multiple pallets, and the killer wonders if they are supposed to just walk around every pallet along the path.

I am no expert on Billy and I did not play that map for such a long time.

But if I remember correctly, all the Pallets on the Outside (those which are close to the rooms, in the main Hallways, which are very unsafe) are a nightmare to play with the Chainsaw. You can get easy M1s, because the Pallets are unsafe, but hitting Chainsaw Hits is not easy, if I remember correctly.

The rooms itself should work better for that.

But back in the day I had trouble with this Map, it is an indoor Map (mobility is difficult) and the short Loops are quite awkward to play with the Chainsaw.

The people who spent 100€ in a key for the Stranger Things chapter: