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Solution for 3 gen — i'm afraid that killers will be punished for survivors' mistake. Let's look at the implementation, but I doubt it will be a healthy step for the game. I don't think the 3-gene problem exists at all after gen kick meta was nerfed. I wrote more about it here: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/378276/there-is-no-problem-with-3-gen-only-with-skully#latest

Onryo — It's sad that killer will be nerfed due to most survivors just completely ignore her counterplay. In my solo games still almost nobody takes a tape and it's ridiculous. But it will be cool if you make her stronger in chase and less oppressive in condemn strategy. But please don't increase tvs' cooldown again, i love her current map pressure.

Blight's addons — really worried that you'll just make them useless, like you've been doing with all addon reworks lately. Blight is the only killer on which I use 70% of his addons, on others I rarely use even 30% of addons. I hope this will persist after the rework.

STBFL – a perk that literally didn't bother anyone until the biggest streamer decided it is problematic. I hope it will at least remain useful, otherwise I will not play m1 killers as much as now.

Quick Gambit — we really need buff another gen repair speed perk? Am I going to endlessly jump through windows at Haddonfield, and everyone within a radius of 32 meters will start up gens 15% faster? Cool, I'm in.

Mangled and Sloppy — No idea what you decided to do with them, but if it's a nerf, I think Botany, We'll Make It and etc. are next on nerf list? I will laugh very hard, if it's nerf.

Killers – My hopes: Hag is 4,5 at least, Ambush buff for pig, wind-up addon basekit for Huntress, addon pass and portals adjustments for Demo, +1 (or even +2) bottles for Clown and yellow bottles -0,5 sec activation speed. Discipline basekit and some useless addons rework for Doctor.

UW — if this nerf will be further than 20 sec of work and 40 sec of cooldown, i guess, welcome to the grave, UW. At least majority of community don't understand that NTH is way better info perk for many killers.

DS — just make this buff fair somehow. I don't want endless bodyblocks and locker spam games again, because survivors feel them extremely safe and weaponized due this perk.

guys, does a perk like ds which can simply be made better if a number changes from 3-5 need that much time?

pls try to make this perk viable earlier.

So far in the past whenever I've liked a killer, enjoyed its gameplay, Behaviour has completely destroyed any fun in it with changes. So far this has happened with the nurse and spirit. I fear the same is in store for Sadako, my current favorite killer. U_U

Behaviour is just absolutely terrible in making their game fun to play. I feel they only succeed by accident, or when the problems are rubbed in their faces.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/201610865?t=1h36m17s

I agree with others that its stupid to nerf a killer just because survivors don't care/learn/understand the ingame counterplay to it. Or killers OWN MECHANICS. I would personally punish the survivors even harder if they don't want to learn the gameplay. Make them. Pandering idiots is a surefire way to create an unbalanced game.

What are you basing that on, may I ask? I see a lot of killer-focused things on this list.

While I agree that some of the perks listed are inevitably going to be nerfs, that's very much not true of all of them. There's no way on this green earth they'd possibly nerf Grim Embrace, for example, and Shadowborn + Monitor are getting new effects entirely (apparently, I'd have assumed Monitor would be fine without a new effect but that is what they said).

Also, based on their history, killer tweaks typically range from neutral to good, so that's kinda nothing. It's only based on their history if you look at like... Trickster and Deathslinger, right? But if you look at Ghostface, Legion, Trapper, Onryo, and Plague, it starts to look a whole lot better. Add in the killers that got smaller tweaks like Huntress and Deathslinger (more recently), which is probably what we're looking at for most on this list, and it starts to look a whole lot less like the killers in question are going to become weaker.

This is pretty biased. It's assuming that every change listed is going to be negative, and judging based on that.

It's super arguable, but that's not really my point so I won't get into that.

We've shifted the bounds of the argument immensely here. We've gone from "this list favours the survivor experience", to "these changes will harm the killers listed", to "these changes won't meaningfully help the killers listed". I can't really tell which of those you're most invested in, since they're pretty different, so I'm not even entirely sure what your position is here.

My position, though, is that the changes are probably going to be neutral at worst and that the list is pretty balanced in terms of which 'side' it 'favours'.

What would tournaments prove about anything...?

Those aren't the overall state of the game. They're a hyper specific subset of players in an artificially controlled environment, it's not at all reflective of the actual game. This is true of all tournaments, to be clear, not just DBD.