My Event is being ruined.

To be fair, some antigen is needed. Get steamrolled otherwise. I just don't get too aggressive, I will slug people, give them a chance. Give them a 3-5 spin twist before throwing them at a hook (I love that) and just remain casual.

Maybe not objectively, but subjectively... She is still super boring to play against...

This is such a fit for the Simpsons meme with the school principle... Is the reason because the vast majority of players absolutely despise this character? No they just unreasonably hate the killer...

Part of the problem is the killer because people despise her, not the player for playing it and not the community for hating it...

Well it's skull merchant so it's to be expected even if it's annoying.

But you're really unlucky, played at least 5 round of blight with a good build and 2 with nurse with adept and didn't get a single dc. Most people seem to be pretty okay with playing the game in the event xD

This is not a thing just happening to people who play Skull Merchant.

I am not speculating. During the event, I personally have witnessed survivors giving up in roughly half of my games, and I wasn't playing Skull Merchant in any of them. Obviously I'm just one person and so not a good sample size overall, but it's not speculation to say it's happening to me too.

As an aside, no matter what the killer is, giving up entirely just because you don't like a killer is a dick move and isn't justifiable. I don't know if that is what's happening - I'd assume not, I was playing Nemesis and Clown and this doesn't happen to them as often in my experience - but if it is, it's obviously worth calling out as those players being in the wrong.

For the record, they weren't DCing, they were giving up. Running to a hook and pointing at it, that kind of thing. That is a dick move, because it ruins the match for everyone else.

It's not a federal offence, obviously, but you'd still push back against people trying to justify it, especially when their justification is just "I don't like that killer". It's generally a good thing to make sure the overall atmosphere of a community is not receptive to selfish and disruptive behaviour, even if it is just a game at the end of the day.

This thread has good reason to exist. Ruining up to four other players' ability to enjoy the event because you don't like a killer is, obviously, worth pushing back against. My addition to the thread is that it isn't just happening to the one killer people pretend is an acceptable target for that kind of behaviour, at least not in my experience.

OK so what? You cannot force people to play a game they don't want to play? Other games detect you as afk and give you an abandon for that... But dbd matches are not really long enough to justify that. Sure it might ruin other people's fun, but you don't really have a right to have people play the game, like I said before. And I do think there are some cases where this is perfectly fine... Endless 3 Gen games, appointments you have to go to... It is fair to say that you need to take into account the amount of time you left, but sometimes games just take way longer than you could have expected.

Well perhaps if the vast majority of players absolutely despise the killer, change the killer instead of blaming them for not liking it ^^

I don't know, wasn't it a complaint about having to play VS 3 bots because no one wanted to play the match? So I don't think it fits the theme of that ^^ Might be might not be, we would need stats about DC rates against each killer to be sure... If it happens against every killer it would become problematic if frequent, but because it is about skull merchant in this thread I would just take it as another not very subtle hint that maybe the killer needs a total make over because still nobody wants to play against it, at least from the case the OP mentioned. And as long it is only skull merchant I could not care less, the killer was a train wreck in every aspect since its PTB and I have 0 faith that it will end up being liked by something even close to majority, so I just don't care about that killer anymore. Luckily nobody plays it so I don't have to deal with it often either.

Well it seems to be a good enough reason for people to do so doesn't it? And this post would not exist if it was not a problem when playing Skull Merchant ^^ And when that becomes too frequent there are two possible reasons for it... Either people just give up more in general, against every killer or the issue is the killer that got played because they don't like it.

Well people DC against every killer, the difference is just how frequently, that much is a given…

Technically removing the DC penalty would fix that issue, because then there is no reason to waste more time by pointing toward the hook... But that might as well result in overall more dcs...

Well glad to hear ^^ But why do you think you get to judge what is a good reason and what not? ^^ Or why your judgment of that reasons is any way relevant for the people who play it? If you play the killer obviously you don't want people to use that as the reason to DC against it xD That would be like sheep electing the Wolf as president.

Yes, and then it would be a different topic and skull merchant would maybe not have been brougth up, but since that is not what happend well…

Well in their mind it is justified for sure don't you think? If they didn't think it is the appropriate thing to do/justified then they would not dc. On top of that, let's say they don't dc… What amount of gameplay do you think is appropriate to force them to participate in? You for sure cannot force people to try to win and as long as they don't go completely afk you don't really have anything to complain/report… So with that in mind playing bad is not a report reason, so if you get a bot instead of the player, is that not a decent equivalent to a real player? ^^

Yes, that is what dc penalties exist for… You see they are kind of a trade off… In the same way a parking ticket is, if you are rich enough… Just that in this case time is money. If you want to park somewhere and you are fine with the ticket, then you just park there and pay the fine for parking where you are not allowed. And when you dc, you somewhat pay with the time you are not able to play the game, seems all fair to me? Those other players can just go next, and you are excluded from matchmaking for a set amount of time. I don't see any issue with that however… Those players can find a new match after ending the current one and maybe find a match where all players want to play… But if it consistantly happens that for some reason people dc 300% as much against trash can merchant than against every other killer in the game, then maybe it is not the issue that players "just dc sometimes because they don't like something" but that the killer itself is the issue, because nobody enjoys it. This argument goes two ways, while you cannot ensure that you get a killer that you enjoy all the time, ideally a killer should not be that unenjoyable, that people regularly dc against it, because they hat it that much.

Well….From this post-game screen, many things might be increasing the chances of DC/going next on 1st hook.

1: Playing Skull Merchant. This is not event-related, Skull Merchant will be "dodged" more often than any other Killer even in normal queue, it is (in small part) the reason why she has such a high killrate.

2: Judging by the offerings brought, the Survivors (and most players during those kinds of BP-intense event) were rather expecting a lobby-full BP bonus. Not only was the Killer the most hated, but they are also the only one that brought a solo offering.

3: Judging by the BP gained, Survivors didn't have the time to do much before getting killed, I wouldn't be surprised if Renato & Dwight got found within the first few seconds. Even in normal queue, a Survivor getting hooked too quickly massively increases the chance of DC/going next on 1st hook in order to avoid a very-likely tunnel (as getting tunneled at 5-4 gens is more expected than feared at that point) and get to play the game again faster.

4: Except for Nick who brought a gen-speed build, the others brought builds that were mostly centered around survival (anti-slug, a bit of anti-camp, anti-tunnel, stealth, minor chase, half of Ash's build is worthless if he doesn't get slugged) and likely saw that they were going against one of the (since Pop got neutered) strongest slowdown build (which usually says that the Killer is there to win rather than play). In fact I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were in a team.

5: When the first guy gave up, it likely utterly demoralized the others and they followed suit. Quite frankly, losing a teammate at 4-5 gens is basically ending the game since too much gen-pressure is lost and, especially against a Killer which is basically guaranteed to eventually win the chase unless it's a day 1 player with a malfunctioning M2 button going against a comp Survivor, no amount of chase will give enough time to come back. The only "hope" is hoping the Killer kills the other 3 and doesn't slug for the 4k (which is basically a pipe dream) in order to have a chance at Hatch. When one guy gives up early, the others are almost bound to follow since they don't see the point in playing out a (likely drawn-out) game that is already lost and won't even yield much BP.

6: While that's not event-exclusive, the rate of giving up on 1st hook if found/hooked too early is at an all-time high (partly due to the great rise in tunnelling, which is partly due to every other sources of slowdown being slowly withered away) and honestly shouldn't be surprising anyone on either side. There is not enough incentive to not tunnel (in fact weakening every other sources of slowdown indirectly encourages tunneling to compensate) and not enough incentive to see a doomed/thrown game to the end.

It's really a shame that it's a rather common situation, even outside of the event, and that certain Killers are tough to get a full game with (although this proves that the option to avoid certain Killers should never be added and that there should be incentives, probably through additional BP, to not tunnel and to play a full game). It's not a good state for the game to be in and, while understandable to some extent, it's something to look at.

I get people dislike skull merchant but people really are petty about it.

I despise Spirit with a burning passion but I never gave up against her even when she was at her peak because there's 4 other people in the game. Skull merchant isn't even strong, just annoying.

Unfortunately there's many entitled survivors and either killers play the characters they approve in the way they approve or they'll refuse to participate in the match.

As for all the people saying "you brought a pudding" that's also immature imo. Sometimes players don't have an event offering available to use for one reason or another. There's 4 and yall are really mad because "no 5th?" so you just throw all 4 away. The killer/survivor could be on their first event game, switching characters , or using a character they don't want to spend BP on at that time.

I gotta say, I can kinda see why people dodge based on the killer being played, but the idea of dodging because there were only four BP offerings instead of five seems extremely petty to me.

You're still getting a ton of BP off a game with four event offerings, and you're getting way less if you give up immediately. None if you outright DC.

"switching characters, or using a character they don't want to spend BP on at that time."

Having BP from reset doesn't solve those issues. I might be playing a character I want to play but I have others I'm spending BP on to get their perks, to get them to a state where I have the stuff I want to play them, or I might just be switching to a new character and didn't get the offering.

Also I mentioned both sides. It's not just killers, I've seen survivors throw up an envelope instead of a cobbler plenty.