Why 2v8 should be permanent

I think 2v8 is planned to be permanent. They’re advertising it as a game mode rather than a modifier.

I kinda agree with the point of survivors. They already say "looping is the only thing we can do" and claim it's the only skillful aspect of the game for them. 2 killers should make it tougher for a survivor to single handedly loop the whole match. I don't see survivors being on board with it tbh. From a killer perspective tho, I do look forward to seeing how they go about it. Hopefully a whole new style of play

First have a look at how it will be implemented. I cant even imagine this mode NOT to be a total mess, cause there are so many things that are not meant to be played with two killers. But probably they make it another killersided event, like the previous ones and literally no survivor will play it.

personally I'm not stocked for the game mode, for me the main draw of killer is i could fit my playstyle to my own term and only face the consequence of losing but with 2v8 i have meet the other player halfway.

Think it all depends on how popular it is. Cote did an interview where he said he was surprised by how unpopular Lights Out mode was (said most people returned to normal mode pretty fast). It doesn't look like 2v8 will be like a regular game of DBD anyway. I'm keen to try it out.

I would say TCM is thriving considering the limited amount of time it's been released. DBD has had many years to work out the bugs, iron things out and add additional content. Give it time and TCM could be on par with DBD.

I agree, running the jungle gym is fun but people don't do that, they look for loops and go in circles around 1 tile. Thats what I would like to see gone in the 2 killer mode. There is a lot for survivors to do, gens, totems, hide, lose line of sight. But the go to response is always loop and disregard anything else

I'm really struggling to understand how people thought Lights Out was unbalanced.  We had...

No loadout for either side = balanced.

No scratch marks for Killer and no terror radius for Survivors = balanced.

Killers couldn't say, "I lost because Survivors had Dead Hard or [insert all other annoying Survivor perks here]," while Survivors couldn't say, "I lost because the Killer had NOED or [insert all other annoying Killer perks here]" = balanced.

How would they balance that mode if all that didn't make it balanced?

So far Lights Out has been my favorite modifier, but I guess I'm in the minority.  My Little Oni was absolutely miserable for Survivors.  Chaos Shuffle was...okay.  I'd have to be in the mood to try out different builds to play it.  I also wonder why people thought Chaos was so fun while also saying that it amplified the flaws in both roles.  It was fun despite people believing they can't survive without gen regression or second-chance perks, but the fact they found it fun already disproves that belief.

As for 2v8, I honestly don't see it being fun for the long-term, but I'll be willing to try it when it comes out.  I'll see how much I like it then.

I think it will be popular 2vs8 is mode the community has always wanted. So eventually it will be pernament.

I won’t be excited for it until we can have Double Bubbi Bois face camping me.

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I think there's a lot of doomposting here for a mode we haven't gotten to try yet. The hook system working more like cages of atonement and the addition of survivor classes means that there's likely going to be more downtime for a survivor player and more room to fulfill a certain niche within the match, which could lead to different gameplay strategies they might prefer after however many years spent on the same mode of play.

On the killer end, the idea that this will turn out like Light's Out seems a little reductive to me, as that mode was pumped out just so it could theme well with Alan Wake and so people could ogle at the fact modifiers were now possible. Freddy wasn't even available in the modifier because his filter couldn't be applied with the darkness and the devs couldn't be bothered to make a new one for him. Lights Out was meant to value atmosphere over gameplay and to its credit, it did just that.

I don't think the devs would've limited the available killers in 2v8 to five unless they were trying to keep the mode in a state of balance they could control. It's possible the mode will be a permanent release they eventually add more and more killers to as they tinker with stats and numbers. It's also possible it comes out as a limited time event we get to see go through multiple iterations until the devs are confident it can stand beside the base gameplay.

Either way, it's not all doom and gloom in my opinion, hopefully this'll be another W to mark off the year!

Tunneling is base kit. It was also incentivized by not having any way to locate survivors after the hook and you couldn't tell if the killer was waiting near the hook (he was).

Anti tunneling is entirely perk related and was completely disabled. Similarly, gen rushing is impossible without both perks and items, so this game mode was basically 'what if we giga buffed tunneling and survivors had no way to counter it'.

Seeing survivors complaining this much about it before it even releases just because they might not be able to single handendly loop the killer the entire match is so disheartening…

2vs8 is interesting but still needs a lot of adjustment. If you compare it to previous games like IdentityV, you'll find some differences that DBDL is more difficult to achieve. In IdenV each survivor has their own status of character, passives, perks and special skills of character. Survivors can fight the killer in many different ways while DBDL can only use pallet, flashlight, flashbang etc.

In the beginning of DBDL, you can only play 5 main characters, Trapper, Hillbilly, Huntress, Wraith, Nurse. My heart wants to play more than just these 5 characters.

It still needs to be adjusted. More balance, I can't even picture it. That if every Killer was to be able to play, survivors and killers could use perk, Iteam and Add-ons. the game's balance be ruined. If compared to IdenV, currently 8vs2 mode has hardly anyone playing because it is unbalanced and the survivors are too strong. And if it's DBDL Killer, it might be too strong. It still needs to be adjusted a lot. But I want it to get to that point.

As a solo killer myself since I don't have a single friend who likes DBD, I most likely never going to touch the mode. In fact I'm always been confused why the idea of a 2v8 mode was wanted by most of the community. Just seems like a headache if you a killer who has to play with a stranger. We see how it performs but my guess is that it popularity will fall off fairly quickly.

I did think the best thing BHVR could do is develop a mode that combines the two, but I don't think it would ever work. Even if BHVR adds perks back so there's more creativity for survivors, will survivors stick with a mode where they have almost no skill expression in chase?

The mode is great for killer players. You get a teammate, chases are much easier to win, and there's room for skill expression. But for survivors, you have less options for creativity and will go down immediately in chase when the killers stick together, so skill expression through looping often becomes non-existent.

People complain that 1v4 is boring by comparison, but I would wager money that if 2v8 was the default mode at launch, this game wouldn't have survived this long.

This game hasn't survived because of casual players. It's survived because of the players with hundreds and thousands of hours of play time. Having limited skill expression is fine if players only play for a limited time, but it limits replayability for players who commit large amounts of time to a game.

If BHVR alienates it's core players, then the game dies. As there's no way casuals are spending enough money in-game to keep the lights on. Having 2v8 being permanent wouldn't be an issue if it didn't completly screw up matchmaking for the regular mode, but it did.

There's just not enough players to keep things running smoothly if you have two modes that fracture the playerbase so thoroughly.