I'd like to see a feature similar to the gen bug as anti tunnel mechanic

If they implemented something like this, wouldn't it lead to Killers slugging survivors on the ground to avoid losing a generator when they die? Like slugging for the hatch but throughout the entire game.

To be clear, I don't think everyone would do that. But since you're bringing up tunneling and people who tunnel, who want to play in the most optimal way, I feel like that would be inevitable.

Ah, finally survivors have the equivalent of what it must feel like to suddenly go down to NOED…. ;)

Still, it's kind of sad that a bug this egregious makes people feel more satisfied about the game. Well, except for the killers of course.

What makes you think this game is balanced for the best Players? The DEV firm believers in statistics. Everything they do is based on numbers. The so-called small percentage of tournament Players are an insignificant number when compared to the population of Dead by Daylight Players, and thus they have very little impact on the numbers. The game is balanced on the averages, and some preset ideas of the game designers.

If you are getting bulldozed in your lobbies, the only person you should be taking to task is yourself and your teammates. How many games/hours do you have under your belt? I'm curious.

You did not answer my questions about how many matches and/or hours you have logged in this game. The answers would have given me better context on how to help you. You are making a great number of assumptions above. We do not know if MMR works as intended or not. The DEV created MMR to work in a framework they understand. It could be working exceptionally well from their standpoint and in regards to statistics. The fact that you don't like your matchups is anecdotal evidence, not anything that can be measured. For my own part, it works quite well. When I play I'm up against the best Survivors they can match me with. The fights are, for the most part, hard. That is as it should be. The nature of this game is that you never know who and what level Player is going to be logged in at a given time. The MMR system is going to do the best it can with what it has available. The limitations entirely based upon the pool of available players.

I don't think you truly know what tunneling means. Don't feel bad, most people complaining about it don't know what it means. To be tunneled ONE Survivor has to be hooked and chased and hooked again and chased and killed to the exclusion of chasing anyone else. That is tunneling. There are no half measures. If a Killer is out and about trying to get other people and you happen to get caught twice in a row, doesn't mean you were tunneled. It means you were either unlucky or played badly (or your teammates didn't pull their weight). Actual Tunneling is very specific and happens rarely. The problem is we have a whole bunch of players who don't understand this and cry "TUNNELING" anytime they are feeling singled out. So unless the Killer is ignoring everyone but you, don't cry wolf.

In regards to your last question, the DEV believe that maintaining the horror aspect of the game means that the Killers are likely to get more of you than get out. It is slightly (very slightly) weighted that way. That is a design choice on their part and one I happen to agree with. Dead By Daylight would not feel like a horror movie if the bad guys were always inept or stymied. That would make it Fraggle Rock.

If a mechanic were implemented that registered a extra Generator if (and only if) one person is hooked three times in a row (and thus sacrificed) without anyone else spending time on the hook, I would agree. Only under those conditions would it be targeted at Tunneling. It can't trigger because someone dies on their 2nd Hook because they gave up or they didn't get there in time. It has to be TRUE TUNNELING that provides that bonus Generator popping and nothing else.

Between four alts I have 18K hours. :) And and I also agree that Tunneling doesn't come up that often. A good Team of Survivors can make bank off a Tunnel in popping Generators and so on.

Don't be silly. You can't just keep on getting systems to make things easier and easier for you while most of the killer roster just gets a middle finger and second class treatment from the developers, it's ridiculous.

Yes, I'm afraid your hours are related to your points. Our experience shapes our opinions. However, 3K is respectable enough. It is more than enough hours for you to understand the game. Your attitude, however, is one I associate more with people in their 500-1500k hours of playing the game. Many years of listening to after game salt and peeking at hours has shown certain patterns. Let me ask you this, "Why do you think that you know better than other players what they NEED to be doing?" That is a bit entitled isn't it? I think it is very noble of you and your "experienced" SWF to never play sweaty (or any kind of that stuff as you put it), and that is entirely your purview. You get to decide what is right for you. You know YOUR needs better than anyone. When did you get issued a badge to judge the play of other people, particularly when the choices you are passing judgement on are perfectly acceptable within the game. I put in the caveat that I still don't believe you when you say you see REAL tunneling as often as you do. The hubris and entitlement you display is not uncommon but still funny to me after all these years. Why don't you worry about you and let other people make their own choices?

In regards to the horror aspects of the game. You are simply at odds with the DEV themselves. They have stated repeatedly (and recently) that the mood, tone, and theme of the game is still to pay homage to the horror origins of the game. They have kindly told us roughly the percentages they would like to see as outcomes and how they use those goals to tweak the system toward that end. So, if you don't like those facts, you need to take it up with the DEV because this is their world, we just play in it. What they say goes.

So every time brightly colored meme outfits/charms and characters that don't fit the game are complained about we're told "DBD isn't a horror game after your first 4 hours". When animations are reworked to look like survivors are going for a morning jog instead of running for their lives we're told it doesn't matter because DBD isn't a horror game. When map reworks completely remove fog and make them bright as day to the point the killer and survivors can wave at each other from across the map we're told it doesn't matter because stealth is boring and it's not a horror game.

But you're telling me when it comes to the core game balance, suddenly we need to make the game unfair because "muh horror aspect"? No, that ship sailed years ago with every other element of horror atmosphere being discarded.

While it may be more fun for you to get a free escape it is absolutely frustrating for killers.

Further you have to understand that while there are people who just tunnel from the start a lot of what killers do is a reaction to how survivors play or have played.
I really dislike hard tunneling don't get me wrong there.
But punishing a killer for doing his objective the (as sad as that is) most effective way doesn't work.
BHVR should stop going for the "Kill is Skill" mentality and instead go for hook stages.
Benefiting hook stages over kills would make the game more enjoyable for both sides I think

"The devs said so" is not a compelling argument. "It's their game" implies that the game would continue to exist after pissing off a sufficient portion of the players. Revenue from players keeps the game alive, not the benevolence of the devs allowing us to play out of the goodness of their kind hearts.

An argument based on "muh horror aspect" is logically inconsistent with every other trend in their design decisions over the same time period.

If a survivor player want to make this bug a feature, they sure seems to want to win every game for free though

uhm.. people really are not able to grasp the concept of the word ‚similar‘?

No one asked for the bug to be implemented as a feature just like that and yet still the majority of these comments act like that’s what people are asking for?!

I don’t have a concept for it.

And guess what, I don’t have to have one to say that some mechanic would be healthy to address the issue currently in-game.

I am pretty sure the devs could come up with a mechanic that would be better than the current way and other than the bug.

But i also agree that you and other will find something to complain about. Good thing is, it’s not about just pleasing you personally.

As for the trigger - nowhere in the op is it stated that this should be the one and only trigger.