2v8 Killer or survivor sided.

If Nurse decides to just go solo, that mean her teammate is going solo too. That isn’t good for the killer team.

what is bad for killer team? If two killer individual win chases, they're more time efficient than if they down 1 survivor. Of course, this implies that your actually able to win chases and nurse is definitely able to win the chases solo.

Nurse synergies with all killers except trapper. Trapper is just really bad in this mode. it is not impractical for trapper to defend 6 gens and he has no vantage points to camp. like there is no hooks or anything to really coral survivors into trapped area. furthermore, scout existing as a class for trapper is terrible. Like you'll just being wall-hacked 24/7 on every trap placement. It is not exactly easy to down survivor with +30 pallets and strong setups like…. triple pallet into T-L wall windows. ok that is enough ranting about trapper.

Wraith + Nurse is strong because Wraith doesn't need chase people in this mode. He can hit & run. Find people out of position, injure them, leave them. injure them, leave them. As wraith injures people, Nurse is able to find chases with survivor that are injured. Injured+Nurse chase = Exposed nurse. Do we need explain how Nurse+Exposed = winning strategy?

Huntress+Nurse is lone gunner gameplay. Huntress is great at the chase. She doesn't need any help at chasing. Huntress downs people. Nurse should not need help downing survivors. Since both killer are always split up, they're always most efficient at applying pressure. Nurse in her element.

Billy+Nurse: Nurse needs win chases vs healthy survivors and put them in cages. When survivors go to cages, they are injured. Billy just needs find people that are injured preferably just as they caged. Survivor are injured = exposed. If billy is always chasing survivors that are injured, he doesn't need exposed. billy needs to be good at curving/1vs1 when you find injured survivors. obviously, you as billy rely on nurse to be good. if nurse is bad at downing people, than billy has no injured survivors to chase. For him, it is not worth it to be chasing healthy survivors. He wants injured people so he doesn't need land his chainsaw curve twice.

The biggest issue with Nurse in 2v8 is that many survivors don’t seem to be aware that the game alerts them if they are revealed… and if they are revealed, and they hear Nurse charging a blink, they should assume Nurse might be going after them, and should be moving unpredictably.

But when I see a Nurse streamer, look at a revealed survivor hiding behind something, and the survivor doesn’t move at all and gets hit with a blink attack… that doesn’t mean Nurse is overpowered. It means the survivors don’t really understand the game mode mechanics.

killer queues fairely long and there is not enough survivors playing, so it seems. so you just get survivors with all different skill-levels… lots of which.are not playing survivor… very well.

Killers going solo isn’t efficient if it causes one or both of the killers to have much longer chase times.

If MMR messes up so badly, that the killer’s MMR is so way above the survivors MMR, that Nurse can quickly solo large 2v8 maps… then the same thing would happen if the killer was Billy instead, and the Billy player would probably be quicker because his map mobility is so much better.

The easiest and most effective 2v8 strategy for killers, when MMR isn’t completely lopsided in the killers favor, is to have at least one of the killers be Billy or Wraith, and for the killer team to go for pincer attacks. Of course, if there is only one fast killer, they can zoom ahead and start attacking solo, but when the 2nd killer catches up to them, the strategy should be pincer attacks.

And Nurse doesn’t count as a fast mobility killer, so Nurse + Huntress isn’t actually one of the best combinations. In fact, if I’m playing solo q 2v8 as Billy, I would much rather my teammate be Huntress instead of Nurse. It’s much easier to set up pincer attacks with Huntress because she can’t teleport, and Huntress is punished way less for missed hits than Nurse.

Can we stop pretending like Nurse is so incredibly hard? I play her once in a blue moon and I do pretty well. In my last game of Nurse, I lost 4 gens to even get the blink distance right again and guess what, I still won (granted, it was close and I had a favorable gen spread). Overall, Nurse really isn't that hard to play. She is hard to master but that isn't necessary to outperform all other killers.

She even has a brown addon that tells her where to blink and the green addon for extended lunges (can't remember the name and I'm too lazy to look it up), makes her a save bet.

In 2v8 you don't have the brown addon to show you where you blink but it's not that hard to get a feeling for this. It may take a few hours but honestly what killer doesn't? At the end of the day, she can move through walls and obstacles. As long as you have a line of sight there really isn't much a survivor can do against you and if you haven't then you still have a second blink to readjust.

The "Nurse is hard" argument is way overblown when you consider how little you need to do right for how much of a payoff.

neither, it's lame in both sides... As survivor i have had games where the exit gates are powered in 3 minutes, as well as everyone killed in that time... As killer... well... can't say much because 20 mins queue is not worth it

like I said in another thread it who ever plays the most scum-est sided.

I know, I'm merely stating it's extremely unlikely they are caring about "too much information" in 2v8

Honestly outside of quality of life stuff and a lack of features it for the most part feels balanced with the exception of when you have an extremely skilled Huntress on the team for killers and maybe Nurse.

Personally I just feel Huntress shouldn't have 10 hatchets and Nurse probably shouldn't get a third blink. For Nurse specifically I feel like her passive should be reworked to help the other killer instead of being a third blink for herself. A Nurse's calling that activates within 16m of your teammate seems more appropriate but again that's just me.

Past that I would introduce a way for survivors to save teammates - Possibly instead of the stomp command the killer picks up and has the option to remote hook as soon as they pick up or alternatively hooks will always spawn within the killer picking up within 16 meters. I genuinely feel pallet saves and flashlight saves are a crucial part of DBD and allow for a lot of fun. I feel the lack of sabo is only a good change though.

Also totems should do something if they're going to remain in the trials as interactable objects.

Overall though I feel the game is balanced - Survivors cannot bring broken items into the trial to obnoxiously speed up generators and killers cannot bring 4 slow down perks. You're not relying on perks or items to carry you but instead the mechanics the gamemode offers.

yeah, there’s a lot that should have been implemented at the start. It’s just too late now to make broad changes. If there’s ever a DBD 2 they could totally make better decisions with the knowledge they have now.