TOTH will guaranteed to be nerfed with the next hotfix cause of to much complainers

Hopefully it's 12% or 10% with a minor second effect. If it's just a straight reversion that would actually be quite sad, hex builds deserve to be strong with the risk they present.

Absolutely fair enough, and in the spirit of extending an olive branch, I'm totally with you that hex perks value could and should be better/more reliable...

However I do believe this change with TotH is not the best way to achieve that.

Still, peace offering for sure 🤘

Good. Why should a single totem take half the time of a literal generator? Also progress isn't saved on totems like it is for generators if you stop interacting. Meaning if, for whatever reason, a survivor stops interacting with a totem, all that progress is gone.

If Doctor is running TOTH, they can just do their big aoe static which always prevent you from cleansing a totem, let alone blessing.

And speaking of blessing, other users have recorded how long that takes, its like 92 or 93 seconds to bless a single totem with TOTH around, more time than it takes to perform a single generator solo with no great skill checks or addons or toolboxes or perks to speed up the process. When solo invocations are more time efficient than booning a totem, that is a massive screw up on the developer's part.

From my experience, a lot of thing change from ptb.

Saying that thrill is not a big problem right now is a bit of an understatement to say the least when people using the builds are slaughtering soloq right now.

Complaining on the forums is nothing new, yes. But I know its serious when it reaches old dh levels of complaining.

This evening I played I think 6 games and escaped from 4 of them. Every single game was a TOTH build. It's actually been a decent session though.

I've just gone all out on gens. Luckily other survivors seem to have also realised that slamming gens is better than wasting time trying to cleanse the totems. You don't really have to worry about Pain Res and killers are barely patrolling gens at all really.

Been running Built To Last, Streetwise, Sprint Burst and either Deliverance or Resilience. Also Commudious Toolbox, with the yellow spool and swival sockets. As there's no Pain Res, the only thing that interrupts you is the odd scream from Face the Darkness but that doesnt delay you at all really.

Obviously the Toolbox, BTL and Streetwise mean you have a lot of quick gen charges to use, Resilience for even more speed when injured or Deliverance to delay Devour, both have worked well in rotation. Sprint Burst to make chases longer. The build has been working really well, but have also got lucky with good teammates. Not the sort of thing I would usually run, but little choice at the moment.

I legit wonder what people want killers to run as perks, seems to me no matter what perk set they run it's always complained about. I mean we're complaining about HEX builds now…lol I never thought I would see the day, hex perks are trash and have been trash for a long time yet here we are complaining about builds revolving around them. These forums have legit complained about every single killer build; heal slow down, hit and run, slugging, tunneling, camping, gen defense, hex builds, chase builds, aura reading builds. Perhaps we should just remove all killer perks from the game, then we can start complaining about killer add ons.🤷‍♂️

You missed the entire point of my post. Idc even one bit that this perk is being nerfed, I don't play hex builds because of how random they are, I just think these forums are obnoxious and filled with nothing but people crying and moaning about the most recent game they lost.

Nothing on these forums is positive anymore, no one even talks about buffing things, it's nothing but constant crying and moaning about how this thing that someone dislikes because they are actually just bad at the game but it's never their fault they lost it's always something else. It's just exhausting is all, nothing here is constructive anymore, everyone is a negative nancy.

So we are just supposed to go back to hexes being garbage again? They have been constantly memed on by both killers AND survivors for so long because of how much of a joke they are and how often they get cleansed before the killer can even cross the map. The amount of times I've spawned in as survivor to see a burning totem right in front of me is astronomically high. Nobody used pre-buff Thrill because it was bad even on full hex builds. We even have people saying 12% is too much.

I would be perfectly fine with nerfing it, but something needs to be done to make hexes not a completely laughable joke.

Someone suggested thrill give a corrupt like effect for all totems. Not sure would people be down for that though. Personally I say keep the current thrill but make it where totems progress isn't loss. You can even increase the current thrill if the progress wasn't able to be reset. Killers don't want they hex broken immediately understandable. Survivors don't want to deal with perks/addons/killer powers that pushing off totems constantly so lets compromise.

but the people on this forums say that it’s survivors fault so it must be…..

If you go by killer complaints it’s either Distortion or Windows of Opportunity. They’re no where near as strong as TotH but both of those perks have drawn a similar level of ire from the opposing side.

It would be okay if the counters for totems were better. Counterforce, better than new, leader, and resilience are the only perks that increase cleanse speed.

Personally I would need it to 10% or 12%. Make totems tKe 15 seconds instead of 14. Buff Small game to cleanse 10% faster. Counterforce up to 25 or 30%, Better than New just needs buffed in general. Boons could have increased range from 24 to 28 meters. Leader could have a longer duration when out of range. Detective hunch could be map wide or trigger for everyone. Clairvoyance could show the Aura of totems.

I do like the fact the Hexes might be part of the meta again and some besides thrill need buffed like Retribution and Two can play.