Killers should be able to abandon when the gates are powered

SWF escaping at an 8% higher rate than solo queue over millions of trials is definitely equal!

The survivors had the system implemented because the game was stalled. There was no control for several minutes on a dead match.

A killer still has full control over their character, and has the ability to still get kills.


You dont know whos at the exit gates and whos still in the match, you can and will get plenty of kills.

Okay this answer is just saying
"I dont want to play that part of the game because its unfavorable and someone might be t-bagging me"

The match is still alive. You have the ability to get kills. If you want an abandon feature to circumvent this part of the game, you dont want to play the full game at that point and are just asking to skip parts you deem unplayable and a waste of time, even though we have data telling you otherwise.

You have full agency still as killer, power and all, but you just dont want to play the part where the exit gates are powered because you might have someone tbag you. Thats emotion and ego being the problem; not the game.

The abandon feature was not added when everyone was slugged/hooked because emotion and ego was a problem, the game was being stalled for no reason, survivors had no agency. Ignoring this fact and to attempt a comparison, is troublesome in conversation.

Hopefully as the dev/community manager answered; they see through this false equivalency and destructive "skipping parts I dont like because I cant handle a control button" and never even consider this change.

If people are this bothered by t-bagging; they need to look a bit inward and stop playing video games. As a killer I am never bothered by this, if anything its hilarious to watch. Especially bunny fengs, or just fengs in general.

For some of the weakest Killers in the game, the round essentially ends the second Survivors have done so well that they decide they want to sit in the gates and make you hit them out. I am not going to waste my times with going to the gates and shoving them out while they wait one pxiel away from the border so I will specifically hit them outand can't get them even if I manage a down. I would rather forfeit gracefully and move on unless I'm running endgame perks. For me, the round is over with the gate opening. Most of the Killers I play DON'T HAVE stuff to catch Survs in the endgame unless I run something like No Way Out. What are you expecting a Dredge to do at the end? What are you expecting Trapper to do at the end?

It isn't my job to enforce Survivors ending the game and moving on, it's everyone's job to move on for the sake of sportsmanship. I don't understand why some people seem to believe that Survivor side is exempt from this rule while Killer side can be screeched at for anything and everything even when they did nothing wrong to anyone in the round. I know this isn't the truth, but it does feel that way when we say Survivors should be able to escape griefing, but Killers have to "just take it" when it happens to them.

I'm sorry, but I refuse to force Survivors out of the gates because it just gives bad actors attention they want. I refuse to give anyone the satisfaction of rubbing it in when I lose. The last time I tried to "just hit them out", I was Sadako, and had a WHOLE TEAM come in to humiliate, taunt and bait me all round when I tried to give them the win while I practiced. I was rusty and trying to warm up again and got a team who decided to pretty much make my life as miserable as they could all round and then repeatedly, repeatedly bait me into trying to hit them out. They solely waited until the last second baiting me into trying to push them out and waited until the last possible second when I refused to, why? To rub their win in. To dunk on an M1 Killer on a map offering THEY brought (it was MacMillan's and we got the Mine map). They were so severely harassing and frustrating that I tried to AFK and they sat inside me demanifested. I left for half an hour and they waited to do all the gens and bait my hits for the 4 man out solely, solely so they could teabag at the end and call me a baby Killer for being rusty at Sadako. They were also horrendous to me in the endgame chat. It felt really, really, really bad.

That was one year ago and it felt so damn bad, I have not touched Sadako since. This incident made me stop playing a Killer I liked because it felt that bad. This sort of behavior from Survivors is demonstrably detrimental to the game and to the vibe of the community as a whole. It directly leads to Killers sweating more and refusing to play "weak" Killers. And it's not all that uncommon either.

This is real. This stuff, while rare, happens. And it's not okay. It's never okay. It's NEVER OK to go into a round with the express desire to bully and harass people all round. Ever, ever, ever. And I shouldn't be expected to have to play the "just force them out' game to feed egos of people like these.

Screw "just hit them out". There's too many sore winners and bullies in this game that simply do not deserve that satisfaction. I'm not going to play at the end when this is all they actually want to do, and it's SHOCKING that the community expects anyone to. We don't tell Survivors to just ignore the griefing and let them do it. Why is it OK to tell Killer players this? Especially when the Survivor and Killer players are the same people? I'm a human being, I have thoughts and feelings and emotions, I just wanna play the game - none of that changes just because I'm the antagonist.

I don't really care if the Killer technically "has agency". I don't care if it "takes five seconds" to do this. I don't care what the Devs say about this being alright, they can be wrong, this is wrong. I don't care how powerful the Killer is. I care about the game feeling fun for everyone. It doesn't feel worth it as Killer to push anyone out of the gate or even go to the gate unless you have an endgame build or something that makes the gates dangerous, period end of. This isn't alright and it feels awful.

For the sake of just simply removing a common nuisance that multiple people here have said they are bothered by, why on earth NOT just add some form of abandon if Survivors are sitting in the gate or in the match at the end not doing anything or clearly trying to harass the Killer player? Games shouldn't feel THIS BAD to lose and it shouldn't be on the player to be made to have their loss shoved in their face when it isn't expected of the other half. I just want to be able to forfeit gracefully if I lose for the sake of being a good sport, and I think a lot of us are in that same boat. It really is about good sportsmanship, and how it seems one side is expected to show it but not the other all. The. Time.

The way Killer players are sometimes treated by some Survivors is abysmal and not okay. We fixed the worst of it for Survivor but I am so incredibly sick and tired of people not treating Kller players the same, as if they're emotionless husks just because they're the antagonist role. Harassing someone all round when they clearly aren't playing well just to make them feel bad and then baiting them into "nah nah can't catch me" BS isn't funny, cute, or something anyone should put up with, it's done to cause rage and tilt people - that makes it griefing. This is griefing.

I will die on this hill - we need an Abandon feature to prevent this sort of scenario. It 100% feels exactly like being slugged for a four man bleedout and I don't care if toy think it's equal or not, that's what it feels like and that is all I care about fixing. This game should not be rewarding sore winners.

Find a shred of decency and dignity and kindness in your heart. If this stuff was happening to Survivors, you'd be mad. But because it's happening when that Survivor then shifts over to play Killer, it's sort of OK?

Make it make sense.

Design wise, if we give players an out at every emotionally frustrating point

ie:losing a chase, survivors escaping, bad map pressure…

it effectively becomes a "skip button" for unfavorable outcomes.

The survivor abandon feature was added in response to forced loss of agency; situations like slugging and match stalling, that made the game unplayable.

Killers, even at the endgame, still have agency: tools, mobility, power, and potential for clutch plays/kills. That's a critical difference.

Wanting to abandon the match just because it feels unwinnable isn't the same as the match being over. That’s part of the loss condition. Designing around frustration or ego instead of gameplay, opens the door to abuse and undermines the value of key moments, especially in the endgame.

Then you believe there should not be an abandon feature for Survivors even if the Killer is W-Sing them on the ground for a four minute four man slug bleedout while the Killer strokes their ego?

If that's not okay, why is it okay for something equivalent when Survs do it? Both are hurtful. Both feel bad to be on the receiving end of. Both are griefing. I don't care if the Killer technically has agency - put a bot in and let the Killer move on. If we let Survivors move on, why oh why can't Killers?

Nobody has satisfactorily explained this to me yet, all people are saying is "but the Killer has agency" (many do not in these scenarios), "but the game's not technically over" (in some cases YES IT ABSOLUTELY IS, and it's Survivors dragging it out), "well we shouldn't encourage leaving when there is a situation one finds unwinnable" (then why did we give Survivors an abandon mechanic at all as a bandaid fix for slugging into a bleedout?). Why make people stay in rounds they already lost? Why do people agreeing with the Devs, who could be wrong and misreading the way the community feels about this, want to make people stay in rounds they have lost instead of allowing a gentle concede option for those of us who just wanna forfeit gracefully?