Why people claim Killer got suddenly hard to play?

Did I miss a change when they reworked Reassurance to do something else than extending the time it takes to advance a hook state?
Or do you also have another name for Basekit-BT? After all it's only 10 seconds - the actual perk gave 12 back in the day.

It's impossible to avoid, but at the same time I don't think anyone is looking at the mod team and thinking they're skewing things. At the end of the day, it's the head honchos that determine what gets put in the game and what doesn't.

Where I wrote I want 4k every match I just dont want to get punnished by playing killer more than I should. Devs are making huge changes but forgeting mediocre and weaker killers need some love too or they will feel super bad to play as, I dont want to get stressed more than I should there are people who like it but playing horror game as killer and you are more stressed than survivor and swf teams with toxic gameplay and post chat are just cherry on top of all.

I get you but when you get ghostface against solid swf and get that powerless feeling knowing you cant play stalk and they know they have to force you chase as m1 then ist kinda bad, I was trapper main but playing as someone who just start loosing and even when you set good trap and it works survivors still can their mistake turn at you is just not enjoyable to me I want to have some chance to win and not to tryhard every match.

All I'm going to say is that I didn't cherry pick swf, I was saying that even with god meta, god validation DH in a 4 man swf survivors were still sub 50%. That's why it doesn't matter, 4 survivors on the same teamare rarely try harding. The chance people are try harding goes down as you move from 4 man to full solo queue.

Blight was busted and is still really strong, but he has the highest pick rate he's had at the least strong he's ever been. nurse has always been busted but the play rate has never been high. The point is, even when survivors was hit the balance of extremely strong and having players who give a damn and who actually are trying to win to a high degree, they still still threw, played for giggles and gave up. I can read win rates in Lol so easily, but kill rates mean nothing in this game. No matter what people are trying in league or cs or siege but in dbd 1 person in a 4 man will be trolling or they all will be, double-so for solo queue. The kate hasn't touched a gen all game and is trailing the killer with a flash light, could be a 4 man, could be solo queue but it's all too common.

In a game like dbd, the 1 in the "1v4" is most likely to actually play for themselves. They are playing to win, there is no altruism. Maybe 1/10th of games a killer will troll, maybe 1 out of two games A survivor will troll in someway.

I am largely focused on perks because the buffs are to killers that are bad to mid and even then they seem to be nerfing them half the time. There has been no base-kit buffs after 6.1.0 that why I am so obviously focused on perks. They only nerfed Blight, Nurse and Wesker. Until now with P-head none of the top tier killer have been buffed. Buffing demo doesn't make "KIller" stronger. That's like saying buffing red harring to c tier is a survivor buff.

Freddy being the most deadly killer in the game only backs up what I am saying about kill rates, EVERYONE knows he's not strong. Actually feeding into him being strong means you think a beyond whatever killer is worth anything strength wise. Do you really think freddy is stronger than nurse, blight, artist and P-head? You'd have to be essentially a silver player to actually agree with that statement.

because Choy put out a video for his killer main audience saying that 70 percent of matches have a SWF, and they all jumped on the copium train

lol ... resurgence is nowhere near busted. it's just at most 2 fast heals off hook assuming killer has no anti heal perks. what it does is make tunneling more difficult and since too many killers rely on that low skill cheese tactics to inflate their real MMR, they hate it

pain res is also overrated. let go of gen right before hook and lose a wee bit of progress. only works against low MMR survivors. but since most players copy content creators we end up with this braindead pain res/healing "meta" that isn't even real, just a snoozefest to go against

Pain res can be fixed in 14 seconds on the gen. Reassurance isnt that good but give it to solid sef and now each hook state can be 100 seconds which is huge.

No one does that anyway.

A gen takes 90 seconds. Under 10 seconds three survivors repair a third of a gen. Since you said 10 seconds make no difference twice, that's 20 seconds (two thirds of a gen) / every hook-state.

You claim these changes didn't make survivor's life any easier. Yet, I do hear people occasionally mentioning that camping and tunneling still happens. The two statements can't be both true.

Some Killers are at a disadvantage from the start… other Killers are higher skilled floored (meaning it takes a while to get used to playing them)… so that means that the Killer verity is limiting

Then let's talk Perks… yes Killers have good Perks that work but Survivors have more tools at their disposal

And now let's talk about playstyle… Camping, Tunneling and Slugging are things that the Game has to deal with (for better or worse)… Gen rushing is also an issue

Also let's talk about entitlement… yes it goes both ways:

Killers- 4K's all the time at 5 Gens

Survivors- 4E's without hooks… playing against specific Killers

I'm sorry for calling a global survivor buff "Basekit <perk that gives the a stronger version of the same effect>". I didn't know that it irks you that much. I only call it that way for simplicity.

But it's in the game.

By the way, just out of curiosity… How do you call Basekit-BT? That also happens to be a global survivor buff that gives a lesser version of an existing perk to everyone.

resurgence can be a good perk, it's just not this overpowered "meta" people are whining about. nor is pain res. these perks are largely popular because most players just copy what content creators tell them is good. we have a culture of second hand learners. and especially using it now when most killers I face run anti heal of some sort is stupid and completely defeats the purpose. if "everyone" brings healing perks as killers claim then anti healing perks are not a waste of a perk slot, unless you face me 😉

I don't even run healing builds and rarely bring a medkit. I've tried resurgence a few times and I'd much rather run resilience and play injured for half a match with faster gens, faster totems, faster unhooks, faster vaults, faster healing, faster chests, faster gates. resurgence is just a waste of a perk slot if you're good enough of a runner to not get hooked in the first place. this "healing meta" is completely imaginary and overrated fiction. many killers can easily reinjure you anyways with 0 effort and then your supposedly "op" healing build is useless (cough cough, the low skill tunneling Kaneki I face every 3-5 matches).

pain res...I just laugh when I see that perk and of course it gets paired with a cookie cutter build like grim embrace, lethal pursuer and nowhere to hide. thanks for running that, I see this boring build so often that I know the perfect counterplay. yeah dumb survivors will not let go of gen and scream every time like fools and lose like half a gen progress cause they all teamed up in the same gen without Prove Thyself like the meta bro wannabe comp geniuses they are. it's basically good against low MMR players that don't let go of gen when someone is hooked, that's about it. but a tiny little quiet regression isn't gonna stop me finishing the gen when I'm injured breaking a 3 gen across the map with Deja Vu and Resilience at 15% increased speed. ill just waste 0 seconds healing and finish a gen while killers chasing someone else cause I don't sit under hook like most of these plebs that just feed tunnelers easy wins cause they know exactly where to find you

Why is pain res most used regression perk for killer? Because its great perk pop is better on more progressed gens but not all killers have mobility to use it correctly and effectivly as apin res (pain res has rng factor of spawning scoorge hooks and sometimes the scoorge hooks spawn location sucks but its still very good perk even it has 4 time uses). Pop reuquires mobility to get fast to the most progressed gen and ability to get consistent downs, if you lack both which some killers does but bigger problem is the mobility factor then painres is better option annyway, but someone who played more killers should know that.

Reassurance for solo q isnt what bothers me, solo q would still struggle to use it but swf can utilize it for maximal potential just like shoulder the burden (bad solo q perk but in hand of coordinated swf its game changing and can change the outcome of the game).

Thank you for the clarification! Indeed, halting the timer for 10 seconds is vastly different from extending it by an equal amount. The the gap between the gameplay impact of these two things are so extensive that they can't even be compared.

its most popular because some popular content creators used it and the killer mains followed suit. pain res is mainly effective against low MMR survivors that group up on gens and don't let go when someone is hooked. good survivors just let go briefly and the little bit of regression is no big deal especially if they have gen speed perks.

give me a pain res killer over eruption or surge any day. the latter perks are much more difficult to anticipate as survivor. or ruin and thrill of the hunt can easily lead to 3 hooks before the first gen pops cause players can't find the totem or are getting pushed off of gens by killer early game losing nearly all progress and then it's gg. but supposedly pain res is "the best", nope, it's just the most lazy strategy when you want to auto pilot killer.

what most players (both killer and survivor) don't realize is that the off "meta" builds are far more difficult to counter because they have the element of surprise for the opponent. a pain res + grim embrace + corrupt intervention + lethal pursuer killer is so easy to read and counter. I have his whole build figured out by the time the first gen pops and know exactly what to expect. it's like ive rehearsed for thousands of hours just to defeat this killer.

the "meta" builds for survivor and killer are basically the mid MMR strats that the average player adopts because he's too lazy to learn anything new but has a general knowledge of the game and searches on YouTube for what build to use.

in contrast, high MMR players have matured past that phase. the high MMR players create the new meta, they set the trends. it's like a chess game and they're always thinking 2 steps ahead of the opponent. high MMR killer knows to expect decisive strike and a syringe medkit, he just shakes it off and 4ks. high MMR survivors expects the tunnel and so is ready to punish it heavily. but most of all, the high MMR player expects the unexpected.

they realize that no single perk or strategy is inherently strong cause the real "meta" is not a static, fixed entity like healing or gen slowdown. the real meta is constantly changing in real time as players develop new strategies to deal with the old meta. and once this new meta becomes popular, the high MMR player has already learned to counter it by moving on. the real meta is a living organism that must be adapted to in real time, not reacted to based on the past.