Yep keep nerfing solo survivors like me

I honestly don't see a world where quad-slowdown is the worst thing in the world anymore. Gen exploding perks like Pain-Res or Pop gets heavily affected by Diminishing Returns while gen blocking perks like DMS or Deadlock got nerfed.

Even if someone were to equip something that isn't affected by Diminishing Returns, like, Corrupt Intervention, Pain Res, Overcharge and Grim Embrace are a far cry than having to deal with something like Pain Res, Pop, Eruption, Surge and other gen exploding perks altogether without consequence.

That’s because the strong regression/slowdown perks were already nerfed in previous updates, not to mention the addition of the gen kick limit mechanic which was an additional nerf to slowdown.

I respect your opinion about this because I know you play both sides, even if we disagree. I think most of the people who are upset about this either don’t play killer at all or play it only occasionally and not regularly against good survivors. I play a lot of killer and most of the survivor players I go up against know what they are doing. SB/Vigil are by far the most common perks I see and it’s for good reason. They’re extremely strong in the hands of good players and make it nearly impossible for B tier and lower killers to keep up. As survivor I’ve been playing with SB/Vigil myself for a while now and even I agree they could use an adjustment because of how strong they are.

but they all were effected by the gen regretion limit. surge and eruption hit the limit hella fast and pain rez was giga nerfed already and to be honest isnt that good i would rather run general slowdown like Thanatophobia or gen blocking perks and if i wanted to run gen regretion pop is much better and you can use it where you need it like on your 3 gen and not on a gen on the other side of the map that would be hard to petrol.

If you mean there's no actual number change, like, if you were to put Pop as the first perk, then Pain Res isn't being halved due diminishing returns even when both perks state that both are generators exploding, then that's actually insane. If that's true I wholeheartly admit that I am wrong.

More so, Diminishing Returns specifically states all those perks as generators exploding and should be affected by it. If its not, then I don't know what logic Diminishing Returns operates under. They did such a bad job at explaining Diminishing Returns that it causes this confusion.

They were nerfed ages ago, other than DMS, and PGTW was buffed recently. Despite those nerfs they remain the most used killer perks in the game even with the kick limit. Any way you slice it they are still in a powerful state, if they weren't people wouldn't run them and they especially wouldn't run four of them. This is before we note that the strongest killers make better use of them than weaker killers do.

I can agree that SB and Vigil needed some nerfs, particularly for the sake of the weaker killers, but I expected those changes to come alongside nerfs to the strongest killers, the killer meta perks, or some other form of major shake up. The 45 more are coming months from now and I honestly think the SB and Vigil changes are going to be more impactful than anything that is to come, especially since there are going to be no killer changes in that patch. Nerfing SB and Vigil isn't going to make people play weaker killers, they are just going to continue playing their favorites or whoever they win with most often and that is naturally going to skew towards the stronger killers.

These nerfs on top of the change to unhook protections is just a major nerf to survivor shortly after the release of a strong killer (and a slew of strong killers before him and what looks like another strong killer coming soon). You say you face these perks often and you believe the survivors you face are good, so is it resulting in you losing? Do you have a slew of killers below the 60% kill rate? If not then these changes could have waited until we also got changes to the killer meta or at least until we got the other coming changes for a real shake up.

Oh, wonderful job my boy, you brought my prediction right into this sub.

Exactly 10 days ago I said survivors pretend to be victims of nerfs to overpowered perks within that post. And here we are, survivors doing exactly that even after the developers themselves acknowledged the perks in questions are too powerful.

No they don't i run overcome and escape against these killers no problem. Sb hasn't been changed sense 2017 thats 9 years of being hard meta maybe pick up a new perk

I don't use exhaustion, actually. you picked the wrong guy to say that to because I play on Xbox. I'm still conditioned to not use exhaustion because exhaustion perks used to freeze our game, so I quite literally had to get good and play 5+ seconds in the future at all times. And server issues aren't a balance issue.

If comp players who are vastly better than 99% of tbe playerbase and experienced players agree its one the strongest perks (because it is). I might be more inclined to hear their arguments rather than just "its laughable to me" as someone who has been playing since 2016 there is a reason SB has never dropped off the meta and it is because it is and will probably still be the best exhaustion perk in the game.