to all people saying "nurse basekit is fine"

What does that have to do with my point? My point was any good player can make ANY KILLER look god like. Most survivors just are too lazy and don't wanna take the time to learn how to counter nurse, they expect to be able to loop her, because that's their only strategy against killers, and when they can't, they scream for a nerf and complain that she's too OP. Omega blink nurse is OP. Base kit nurse is not, however. Sorry dude.

Red rank, level 1. Much harder also...

That's the huge risk of using that perk. That's not the nurse's fault but the survivors risk for "announcing position come get me". That's actually a beautiful dynamic, you bring that perk to nullify Ghostface's power or does the Nurse use it to her advantage? Survivor has to decide that at the campfire and not scream for nerfs when they use a perk that is especially strong against a particular killer. Good survivors still have the option to hide with OoO when they know the nurse is coming.

Also, nerfing Nurse's addons will handicap her even further with dealing with SWF genrush teams. I suppose we will see who the devs cater to.....SWF or killers? I think we know the answer already.

I think your claim is false but lets assume for a minute that god survivors can beat a god nurse 'easily' as you want them to be able to do. Which killer stands up to give those god survivors a challenge? Nobody, no killer. What's the point in them playing survivor? Answer: To Bully, that's their enjoyment and that's why this thread exists.

Did you even read anything I wrote? Because I explained it quite clearly.

Face camping to body block a hook made unhooking IMPOSSIBLE.

Permanent sabo made hooking IMPOSSIBLE.

If you think one is okay, you must think the other is okay too or else you are a hyprocite.

Fact is, neither are okay because it's broken when a player can make an action impossible for their opponent. It doesn't matter if said action is the right tactical decision or not. The problem is that the option doesn't even exist.

Also you throw out the term "gish gallop" but I don't think you understand what it means, just like you don't understand what cognitive dissonance means either. You are just using buzzwords to avoid being seen as a hypocrite.

Go get a whamburger and some French cries then. You don't want a solution, you don't wanna learn how to counter play, you just want nerfs.... Go play fortnite then dude.... I'm out. This forum is all hate towards nurse, and when someone shows you her counter play, you still deny it. When someone trys explaining it, you throw your fingers in your ears and scream NERF! NERF! NERF! Later dudes.... This is nothing but bait and I fell for it...

That was actually a good example of a smart survivor exploiting the nurse's weakness. Most survivors, probably like yourself, would have continued running in the wide open field.

There has been valid points on both sides, and you saying that their has been only valid points on one side already says a lot about you, Im only saying that someone needs to close this thread because the points have already been made, nurse addons are the only things need changing, and the only reason why this is all a "mess" is because everyone is making it A mess by keeping this thread up

"Why, you all thought your echo chamber of shouting how Nurse isn't OP was gonna stop sound reason of why in fact she is?" Unnecessary rudeness and

"No keep this open, because we need to talk about this mess." its only gonna make it messier, so what do you want?

I think Zubat would lose if he played vs. four Zubats. I honestly believe that. Good luck finding such a match.

You're ignoring the fact that Zubat in the video faked his movements, used LOS breakers, used DH a few times, and juked the nurse in the corn. She's P3, it wasn't her first rodeo.