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I think it's more we have very different opinions on the matter tbh. As do alot of people on any subject. I agree that this conversation has stopped going anywhere though. I have been playing this game for years. As I'm sure you have. That really has nothing todo with it. :) You take care too. :)

It's not a straw man argument. The hatch is 50/50 if the killer finds it before it opens that means very little. Most killers will see the hatch during gameplay. Not all the time obviously. Likewise if a survivor finds it before it opens it means very little. They know where it is but the game carries on. If the killer…

Umm, I never said the killer looking for the hatch was spiteful. I answered this already. You asked me about this and also killer camping said hatch. I answered what you asked. I also have said on here if the killer finds it and closes it, that's fair game. You saying if they close it, because they find it before number 4,…

No Edys, I said, I agreed the hatch stops the game being taken hostage. However I do believe the hatch is meant to be a 50/50 chance. So I think you have misread or got my posts mixed up. :) When I said I agree it was quoting your post about a survivor being spiteful. Yes it's entitlement to feel you have a right to take a…

Ok we might be on a different page to each other. I have been talking about why slugging number 3 to stop number 4 is spiteful. However you said you are talking about why the hatch should be removed. Two completely different things. I did not see what you said about the gate being blocked, have read it back now. In the…

I agreed with your second post about a spiteful survivor throwing their team mate under a bus. I just quoted both in one post, maybe it did not show. Yes and likewise survivors know that same information about the hatch after so many gens. Just because the killer knows the same thing does not mean they are being unfair. As…

Well if we are going down that road, then what about a survivors emblem? The one for escaping? You are slugging number 3 to stop number 4. It's spiteful but does that mean you can't do it? No. I never tried to say you can't do it, for whatever reason you want to. What I did do is point out it's spiteful gameplay. I stand…

Sorry Blue, I only just read you post, was not ignoring it. The game puts the hatch in to give 50/50. You are the one who feels entitled to take that chance away. That's not how the game is meant to be or the hatch would not be in the game. Once number 3 died EGC would start. The same way it does when you close the hatch.…

It is spiteful gameplay. If you slug number 3 to stop number 4 getting a chance at the hatch. It does not matter the reason you do it, it's a spiteful thing todo. You yourself know you are doing it to stop them getting the hatch. Again I will repeat, play the game how you want. But the fact remains the same it's spiteful…

How would the killer know it spawned, yet the survivor not? If the killer happened to find it, that's fair. However if it's not open, what can be done. Likewise if a survivor finds it first, but it's not open yet. What matters is when it opens who finds/gets to it first. I agree.

Dwight, I think we should agree to disagree at this point and move on. I have already said I know both sides can be spiteful to the other side. This discussion is just going nowhere at this point. I stand by what I said. You stand by what you said. Let's leave it there. :)

Yes the hatch stops the game being taken hostage. However it is meant to be a 50/50 chance for both killer and survivor. If it was not the case once number 3 died the game would start EGC without hatch at all. :)

Umm, I think you need to go back to Google and put in spiteful not just spite. Slugging someone to stop someone else getting a fair chance is spiteful. It's not just trying to win. You are denying someone a fair chance for your own personal gain. You are also stopping another from moving on to another match, the guy on the…

I'm not trying to control anything Dwight. I even said in my first post here if you want to play like that, so be it. But yes, yes it's spiteful gameplay. It's spiteful because you are only doing it for personal gain, you are going to spite someone else to get what you want. That is being spiteful. It does not matter if…

It does not matter how you try an say it Dwight, it's spiteful gameplay. You are slugging to stop someone having a fair chance. I don't think killers are more spiteful than survivors, both can be spiteful. However doing gens is not really stopping a killer having a fair chance. Also both killers and survivors run powerful…

Yes, it is spiteful gameplay, very much so. The only reason you do it would be to stop the last guy getting the hatch. That's called being spiteful. You are not giving someone a chance to find the hatch and get out, because you want to spite them of that so you can guarantee your kill. If a killer is ashamed of being…

I have said before that if you slug just to stop the last guy getting the hatch, it's spiteful. The hatch is in fact meant to be a 50/50 shot for both. If the survivor finds it, they get out. If the killer finds it, they close it. End of the day it's not wrong of a killer to slug the all but one last guy but it's spiteful…

Umm, I think it's spiteful gameplay tbh. The hatch is there because it's meant to be a 50/50 the survivor will find it and get out. Or the killer will and close it. However being spiteful does not mean the killer is wrong todo so. It just means they are spiteful.

I agree with some of what you say, in fact some points you made, I have myself stated on here. However your post reads very angry. I'm not sure if it was meant to come across as such? I think the main thing that screams out to me in your post is the frustration of being told you now have to stay in any match you see unfit…

That's nice of you to say, Thank you too. :)

John, what can I say to that other then I have never said or tried to say it's against any rule to camp or tunnel. Likewise leave a match is still a option an will continue to be one, yes with a time out now but still a option. If a player is abusing that option then that's for the devs or whomever to deal with.

John I completely agree with this as it happens. I think Dwight is right in that you should be put with others who are likewise. I don't feel I dc enough but then again maybe I do? I don't know the threshold tbh. I don't know if that information is out there? I would not mind being put in matches with people who dc, tbh I…

Fair enough, I did not think it was a ban from the game as a whole. I only thought it affected match making but clearly I must have gotten that wrong. :)

I disagree with you that it's how the game is meant to be played. They did not make this game for one player to sit on the hook from the start of the match until they die and de-pip. However if you believe that is how infact it's meant to be then what can I do? I'm not going to try and sell you something you don't want to…

Is this a known fact or just guessing? I'm sure if someone clicks the leave match button, they know it was not a power cut. As it happens you are right this won't affect me. We don't get power cuts that often here. However if the game crashed and I got a temp ban, I would just laugh anyway. But that being said let's not…

But to to that player, they don't feel like they are playing because they are doing nothing. People don't play dbd to sit on a hook for their time in one match. If you can't understand that, that's fine. We will agree to disagree. I don't feel like I am playing if I'm camped then die on the hook. If you do feel like you're…

I never said you could not help your team, I said it makes the player on the hook unable to play in the match. As a matter of fact I have held out myself when I have been camped, in fact I think every player would have done so at some point. However I don't all the time, I will stay until I get to the struggle then just…

If the killer tunnels you, you are screwed. Yes your team can throw theirselves at the killer and hope he loses sight of you but that's not always the case. It's a chance move and most times fails. Also let's not talk SWF, that's a whole different ballgame. I was only referring to solo. :)

You are missing the point I made. You are unable to play in the current match if you are camped and tunneled. Same way you would be in football over a bust leg. If you think the example I gave was not a good one, that's fine but the point remains the same. You cannot play in the match if you are hooked and unable to get…

I was asked about sport from another poster so I went on from there to give the example I did. No of course I don't think I bust leg in real is the same as being slugged in a video game. The point I made was that camping and tunneling off the hook leave you unable to play in the match. The same way a bust leg would leave…

Gosh, you missed my point. You asked me something and I answered, you are the one who asked about sport. The point is not if a bust leg is the same as a slugging in game. Of course they are not for God sake. The point was that both leave you unable to play the game in which you joined. You can't play the current match you…

I like the fact that we are getting this information up front tbh. So many things on this game are, oh so secret. Do I think this will stop people leaving a match? No. Truth be told there are reasons people leave other then just throwing dolly out. It does not matter if you agree with the reasons or not, the fact remains…

Ahh, yes I've had this where my team see the killer an poof. Gone. This is why I think the killer should be known before the match starts, it does not make people play as is current. It just makes them leave or kill themselves on the hook. I have said before when you get hooked it should be a given you get a black pip.…

I think it just goes to show again that this game lacks information as a whole. It's so silly that they would remove something that let's players make a informed decision. I don't see the point in having ranks if others can't see said rank and choose to play with you or not.

I've never had this to what I know to. Then again I'm crap with names and have a life. If they remember me and want to take me out their match early then so be it. I will move on to the next. However seen as you are very upset about this and feel somewhat targeted. I think you should record the gameplay, after you have a…

I don't like going against pig anyways tbh. However I find most of the killers that play her will overlook you with a trap on if they are in chase with someone else. It's just a luck game really. Fun at first but I went up against 3 Pigs in a row the other day, on the last one I just did gens till my trap went boom. I…

Not too sure how I feel about this one. I don't run around blowing kisses at them. However I do tap them to make the killer look round said gen. Does not always work but sometimes it does. If I am running to unhook someone and pass a gen that's not running, I will blow it a kiss as you call it so the killer thinks someone…

Umm, I think a better option would be allowing the survivor to get back up after some time. That way the killer can still do a quick look around to see if the last survivor is nearby but can't take the piss and leave the last but one survivor on the floor for as long as they please to go look for the last one so they can…

I have played sport in real life, yes. However if my opponent did something that was crap play, such as kicking the back of my knee in football to down me and then stamp on my leg to bust it up. I would never play with that player again. The reason I say this is because if a killer camps or tunnels off the hook, they are…